Your Max Bench, Dead, Squat ?

[spatts]

Bro, I just checked your profile and you are 5'3 ... let's do some math:

Each inch is about 6lbs on a male (although some people say as much as 10lbs).
If you were 6'3 you would be 12inches taller, so 12X6=72
Now let's add the 72lbs to your weight of 140lbs = 212lbs
If you factor in that you are much shorter and don't have to move the weight as long of a distance your lifts were right where they should have been.

-sk

WOW. I'm starting to feel like I'm getting my leg pulled here.

This is about biomechanics, and the height on bench press means very little. You can't use a formula for this! That's just one more way of limiting. That school of thought, even if correctly applied to the bench press, does not mean a disadvantage...by that logic I should not have any bench at all. My arms are 30 inches long, from center of neck to wrist, and I'm only 5'9". They hang down to my mid thighs. When I squat, I grip the bar at the plates, and my arms are STILL bent. I didn't let some equation stop me. I learned to tuck my traps, raise my chest, bench low, drive back with my legs, grip wide, etc...until I had my bench stroke down to 8.5 inches!!!!!!!!!! Again, no limits.

 

[coolcolj]

I don't buy this height thing

Look at how strong and explosive throwers are, and most of them are in the 6'2" to 6'4" range - some even taller. Here having long limbs is an advantage because you can generate more force throwing the implement. And yet they tend to have big benches, big oly lifts and big squats.

Granted they are highly fast twitch, but that goes to show its muscle makeup+training+hard work that is more important, rather than leverage and limb length.

 

[coolcolj]

It is too easy to lie to yourself and say you did all you could when you are alone. However when someone just did a GM that breaks your PR and they are looking back at you saying "your turn" what do you do?? You get off your ass whether you want to or not...and you lift the f/n weight.

Heh I don't agree with this, I push myself harder than you might think, training alone

But I don't max out as much as you guys do.

 

[spatts]

Depends on how you look at it, CCJ. We max out on a full rom ALOT less than you.

 

[sk*]

6 hours a day ---> 6 times the gain? Please tell me you don't really believe that?

No, lol, the whole point was I wish it would work like that as if it did then I would be in the gym all day long. It was towards your comment about working harder. Since it is understood, by most powerlifters and bodybuilders, not to train for longer than 45-90mins it really becomes hard to "train hard." All that's left is to make sure our diets are right.

-sk

 

[sk*]

WOW. I'm starting to feel like I'm getting my leg pulled here.

This is about biomechanics, and the height on bench press means very little. You can't use a formula for this! That's just one more way of limiting. That school of thought, even if correctly applied to the bench press, does not mean a disadvantage...by that logic I should not have any bench at all. My arms are 30 inches long, from center of neck to wrist, and I'm only 5'9". They hang down to my mid thighs. When I squat, I grip the bar at the plates, and my arms are STILL bent. I didn't let some equation stop me. I learned to tuck my traps, raise my chest, bench low, drive back with my legs, grip wide, etc...until I had my bench stroke down to 8.5 inches!!!!!!!!!! Again, no limits.

I think you misunderstood me again. My first point about the height is that for someone that is 5'3 140lbs is a good amount but for someone that is 6'3 IT IS NOTHING.

My second point was that the shorter you have the less amount of "work" you have to do according to physics. It's really simple, the longer your arms are the more distance you have to push the weight and fight against gravity. You can still do all the things (that you said) that make you a good bencher, but so can someone who is shorter and he/she can take slightly more advantage of it than the taller person.

-sk

 

[sk*]

Working harder rarely means more time in the gym. And if working out with your friend took away from your progress then you need a new partner. A training partner that isn't as dedicated as you are is in your way. Having said that...if you find a training partner that really pushes you...there is no way training alone can yield the same results.

It is too easy to lie to yourself and say you did all you could when you are alone. However when someone just did a GM that breaks your PR and they are looking back at you saying "your turn" what do you do?? You get off your ass whether you want to or not...and you lift the f/n weight.

I answered the point about training longer to spatts' responce. You guys just misunderstood me, I guess I didn't explain myself clearly.

Regarding training harder, like I said, if I am bulking than I am a failure if I don't set a new PR on every major compound movement every week. Maybe I am able to achieve this because I haven't been training as long as you, which would be completely understandable as the more you train the harder it becomes to build more muscle/strength.

-sk

 

[Mike_Rojas]

no excuses, just do it.

In my experience, taller guys are generally stronger than shorter guys. Even those tall, lanky ones. If you're unhappy with your strength level, do a pure strength building routine for a few months.

 

[sk*]

no excuses, just do it.

In my experience, taller guys are generally stronger than shorter guys. Even those tall, lanky ones. If you're unhappy with your strength level, do a pure strength building routine for a few months.

Excuses? lol

I'm not making excuses as I really don't care how much the person next to me can bench or squat. Just stating a perception.

-sk

 

[Mike_Rojas]

I really don't care how much the person next to me can bench or squat

You obviously do care or you wouldn't be here questioning everyone's lifts