Your Max Bench, Dead, Squat ?

[crew9]

Yea 315 bench at 6'3 235 8% bodyfat, are you comparing that to 6'3 185lbs and benching 235lbs?

Well buddy my stats as of now are 6'3 230-235lbs with 10-11% bodyfat and my numbers are only a little below what yours were in senior year in highschool. So you can see why your numbers won't really shock me, but being 6'3 185lbs and benching 235 will.

And no I didn't take it the wrong way.

-sk

Wow I do not get you. Let's see the 235 person who benches 315 has an 80lb difference between his bench and weight. Where as the 185 who benches 235 has a 50 lb difference. This is almost funny hehe.

 

[IronLion]

Don't measure everyone by your own yardstick

or else Pyrros owns us all---------180 lbs----385 lb SNATCH

There are a ton of guys I know that are 6'3'' and weigh between 180 and 200 lbs and most bench 300+ lbs. SK you work out with a bunch of little girls I guess. I have a friend who is an all american wide receiver who benches close to 400 lbs and he is 6'6'' and weighs about 195, there are countless others like him, why do you continue to hate?

 

[Hannibal]

http://elitefts.com/documents/strength.htm

Perception of strength is all relative to the people you surround yourself with. If you think you are strong....find stronger people to hang out with. There is always someone stronger.

 

[sk*]

Re: Don't measure everyone by your own yardstick

or else Pyrros owns us all---------180 lbs----385 lb SNATCH

There are a ton of guys I know that are 6'3'' and weigh between 180 and 200 lbs and most bench 300+ lbs. SK you work out with a bunch of little girls I guess. I have a friend who is an all american wide receiver who benches close to 400 lbs and he is 6'6'' and weighs about 195, there are countless others like him, why do you continue to hate?

Hate? Man what the hell, I don't hate anything ... and I am not saying there aren't exceptions to the rule. The people in my home gym are weak older guys, but there are plenty of big guys in my college gym ...

-sk

 

[IronLion]

Big Guys? I have seen almost all the top BB's train in person and I can tell you this much: on average they are not strong compared to the average national level PL...there are exeptions, Cormier, Coleman, Kovacs ect. but by and large Big is not strong

 

[sk*]

Well, okay ...

-sk

 

[spatts]

Re: Re: Don't measure everyone by your own yardstick

... and I am not saying there aren't exceptions to the rule.
-sk

I think the point trying to be made, or at least the point I see struggling for comprehension, is that maybe you only THINK these people are the exception to the rule. As the article Hannibal refers to illustrates, it's all in who you surround yourself with. Even a college gym is a bad basis for comparison, from what I have seen (and I used to work in one). Finding people that can maintain a high weight to bodyweight lift to be an exception, even though I could probably list 100, is an example of a "self imposed ceiling." A mind-set that leaves you feeling ok with where you are. You have great lifts, even compared to the mediochre crowd you are surrounded with. Imagine what you could lift if you trained with a few people your same height, weight and body fat that could outlift you? I train with 3-10 men who all outlift me. I know how much I play up to them. If I trained with someone weaker than me, or even the same, I probably wouldn't progress like I do.

 

[Hannibal]

Big is not strong

A large muscle means nothing if you can't recruit it to do work.

 

[sk*]

Re: Re: Re: Don't measure everyone by your own yardstick

I think the point trying to be made, or at least the point I see struggling for comprehension, is that maybe you only THINK these people are the exception to the rule. As the article Hannibal refers to illustrates, it's all in who you surround yourself with. Even a college gym is a bad basis for comparison, from what I have seen (and I used to work in one). Finding people that can maintain a high weight to bodyweight lift to be an exception, even though I could probably list 100, is an example of a "self imposed ceiling." A mind-set that leaves you feeling ok with where you are. You have great lifts, even compared to the mediochre crowd you are surrounded with. Imagine what you could lift if you trained with a few people your same height, weight and body fat that could outlift you? I train with 3-10 men who all outlift me. I know how much I play up to them. If I trained with someone weaker than me, or even the same, I probably wouldn't progress like I do.

Well maybe what you are saying is true. I never really trained with anyone, with the exception of 2-3months with my friend ... but at the same time i've read and heard that many bodybuilders train alone too. Ronnie Coleman in his video stated that he trains alone too ...

The way I see it is I have either a cutting phase or a bulking phase. In the bulking phase I am a failure unless I add on weight to all my compound movements every week, so I don't really think I am lacking motivation although perhaps I would gain better if I trained with other people?

-sk

 

[sk*]

A large muscle means nothing if you can't recruit it to do work.

Yea, but you don't exactly just wake up one morning and have big muscles, right? It takes a long time of dedication and work. Am I missing something here?

-sk