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Mike_Rojas said:


You obviously do care or you wouldn't be here questioning everyone's lifts

Not to the point you would think, I have already forgotten all numbers except spatts' 400-430 deadlift and that 6'3 185guy who benches 235.

The only people I rarely look at in the gym are the really big guys (at least what I consider big). Most other guys I see are just cheating on their movements.

-sk
 
I don't think the people on this msg board are your average lifters. All this talk of deadlifts and squats and such. I used to go to a couple different gyms, and in 2 years or so I only saw 1 guy do a deadlift. Everyone was watching, probably trying to figure out what he was doing. He needed to get permission, 'cause the sign said "no olympic weights on the floor". They did mostly bench with endless forced reps, lots of different curls, side laterals, a few pulldowns. Even chins were rare. One big guy even came up to me when I was doing squats and asked for advice. I saw him repping out with 275 on the incline bench, but he never squatted. His friends talked him into doing a bodybuilding show, and he decided he should probably start working his legs!

I'm sure you meant no harm sk*, but you ticked off some people here when you questioned their lifts.
 
So what if the short arm guy has a natural advantage? Kick his ass anyway.

Height has nothing to do with it...you need to get that out of your head. Even weight has little do with it compared to LBM. Then even LBM has little to do with it compared to recruitment efficiency. I could look at my disadvantages all day long, but I prefer to work around them. When I lay down on the bench, I know that I had to work harder to get there than alot of people, and determination goes further than physics sometimes.
 
Mike_Rojas said:
I'm sure you meant no harm sk*, but you ticked off some people here when you questioned their lifts.

I specifically tried not to point my post towards anyone so I wouldn't "tick off" anyone.

-sk
 
spatts said:
So what if the short arm guy has a natural advantage? Kick his ass anyway.

Height has nothing to do with it...you need to get that out of your head. Even weight has little do with it compared to LBM. Then even LBM has little to do with it compared to recruitment efficiency. I could look at my disadvantages all day long, but I prefer to work around them. When I lay down on the bench, I know that I had to work harder to get there than alot of people, and determination goes further than physics sometimes.

Argh, that wasn't the point. The guy was 140lbs at 5'3 and was trying to argue that he can bench 225lbs. So what, are you trying to tell me he would do that same life if he was 6'3 and 140lbs? LBM is relative to height, so I don't even know where you are going with the second part of your post (all 200lbs isn't created equal). I am 230-235lbs, that's pretty much nothing for someone who is 6'3 but it would be monstrous for someone who is 5'3. Can you imagine someone that is 5'3 and 235lbs?

No I don't look at my disadvantages but he was saying he can bench 225lbs at a bodyweight of 140lbs and neglected to mention his height just to make a point, SO FUCKING WHAT??? HE IS 5'3.

You get me someone who is 5'3 and 235lbs and under 10% bodyfat and i'll show you a good bencher/squatter/deadlifter.

And I don't look at my height as a clutch, I love my height ... I was just showing that a shorter person has an advantage over a taller lifter when it comes to lifts. Does this mean I wanna be shoter or i'm gonna kill myself cause I don't have that advantage? Hell no, i'm gonna keep lifting harder, I was just stating that he was making a completely pointless post by saying he was 140lbs and benching 225lbs and neglecting to say he was 5'3.

-sk
 
spatts said:
Maybe if you had been more specific, you would've only pissed off one person. lol



;)

Seriously, I had/have no intention of putting anyone down. If you can lift the weights you say than more power to you, but I know that the first time I went to touch a bench it was 90lbs and came down to my throat after 4reps. Maybe I have piss poor genetics when it comes to my chest, but I have never seen anyone who was tall and scrawny like me put up 225lbs.

-sk
 
This time last year I could barely bench the bar.


I have never seen anyone who was tall and scrawny like me put up 225lbs.


...then it will be very exciting for you when you realize how attainable it is.
 
spatts said:
...then it will be very exciting for you when you realize how attainable it is.

Never said it was impossible, just that i've never seen it. That little kid on www.ihercules.com benches 200lbs which is over 3X his bodyweight. So it's very well possible, just rare based on what I have seen.

-sk
 
sk* said:

...just rare based on what I have seen.

-sk

Perhaps you need to look around more...maybe different places. Or just decide to be the first you've seen do it. Either way, you're in for a pleasant surprise.
 
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