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What is the best art for Street fighting?

tommboy said:
Im at a loss as to what is going to be the best thing I can take up to improve my street fighting to coincide with my vigorous weight training. Boxing or San shou or will both give me what I need. I don't think I will be going anywhere but the street with these skills anyways Unless I really get into it.


HEs Right , San Shou
 
Yea my legs are definately not as well developed as my arms (genetics) but they are ok. And eventually they will be so San shou might be the way to go....


maxreps said:
If youv'e been weight training alot and have developed large muscles you may want to take advantage of them, If the San Shou has a good amount of grappling in it then strengh can be a benefit.
 
go look how both places train and see what you think.

good be one place is hardcore and one is more recreational.

and depending on how hardcore or how recreational the training is might sway your opinion greatly.
 
I would say san shou. I used to box for a couple of years before taking a more traditional style of kung fu. The only thing I believe boxing taught me was good footwork and head movement. I can honestly say that boxing made me a very weak puncher. A lot of people may disagree with that but that's fine. Once I learned differently I found tremendous punching power.

If the teacher is really good I think the best against street fighting would be tai chi. Now, if it's like the new age modern tai chi than it's a waste of time. However, traditional tai chi is really good against most people since they like to attack full force or put all their weight behind a punch. Same as akido works well against most people like that.
 
99 out of 100 times its gonna come down to how the place trains. you might have a boxing club that is in a rec center that is very relaxed and no real sparring. you could have one that is there just to train pro fighters and you may have one that focus's on the basics and has a good amount of sparring. the same can hold true for san shou one place might be for established fighters looking to compete under that rule set and another might be for beginners ...

i do feel style does make a difference in some aspects.. all talk about akido. first i really like akido and i will be learning more and more of it as i continue to train. but i will say i strongly feel that it takes way to long to become skilled enough using akido techniques to be able to defend yourself on the street especially if you compare it to another grappling art like bjj/judo/sambo. at the 6month/1year and even 2year mark most people studying a grappling art will be well ahead self defense wise then the akido practicioner. that is assuming a lot of things i know but just trying to illustrate a point. now 10 years into akido you might be well ahead of any grappler out there but it might take you 5 / 10 / 20 years.. i dont know i dont do that much akido.
 
That's true. Akido and Tai Chi take years before they can truly become effective. I guess it all really depends how long someone wishes to study and what their short and long term goals are.

If time's an issue I would say just get a gun license and a concealed weapons permit :) Then you'd be ready against any kind of sylist. Especially if they're more than two feet away from you.
 
Boxing + Wrestling.

If you can find a good school, try "Krav Maga" .




-BRR
 
wouldnt it be optimal to train to do kicks too or are kicks not important in a street fight?



Big Rick Rock said:
Boxing + Wrestling.

If you can find a good school, try "Krav Maga" .




-BRR
 
tommboy said:
Im at a loss as to what is going to be the best thing I can take up to improve my street fighting to coincide with my vigorous weight training. Boxing or San shou or will both give me what I need. I don't think I will be going anywhere but the street with these skills anyways Unless I really get into it.

streetfighting should be your last resort
running away would be far more benificial
should only fight on the street if you really have to
you just can't tell if the other person is going to pull a knife or a gun, even if you wan you could wind up in jail and worst of all the penalty for loosing may be worse then some bruises depending on who you fight with
but either Boxing or SanShou should be alright but as Djimbe pointed out (I think it was him) SanShou is really just a set of rules so what is taught in the SanShou class may be great or it may be crap in order to find out see if they have put out any fighters that are doing wel in the independent sanshou or etc, but I'd go with Boxing, on the off chance that you really get into it and have some wild skills someday there is better money in it then sanshou
then again if the lessons are free like I think you said why not train in both?
 
tommboy said:
wouldnt it be optimal to train to do kicks too or are kicks not important in a street fight?

Yeh kicks arn't really important in a streetfight fast, hard punches and strong grappling are the most important. Simple techniques work the best like the 1,2 combo, a left hook to the jaw, elbows and knees to the head, the rear naked and the guillotine, ground and pound etc etc
 
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