Welcome Darkness......

[OMEGA]

Due to a surprise work trip, I can't do the Jan program now but I talked to EF Frank and I'll be taking the class after the march 1st one, so I guess the July 1st class. I can't wait to start, it sucks I have to wait longer now but at least I'll have even more muscle already when I'm working with you.

its OK
I cant wait to work with YOU

 

[10001110101]

I agree with Alcatraz.

I know you've already started, but seriously considering dropping the deca this cycle.

you dont' know how well you're going to recover, plus with that much test you run a good risk of gyno, and that would suck because you have a kickass physique man. seriously you have potential kid, take it slow.

also man, even MORE important, DROP that EPOL crap, if you were my friend i would pay you money NOT to take it... superdrol is just terrible for you man, so bad for your liver, it may end up making it so you can't ever take orals again or worse. plus it makes you feel like absolute shit, granted your milage may vary, but test at 600mg/wk is PLENTY for a first cycle. even if you wanna keep the deca in there seriously drop that superdrol/ph combo

you are going to blow up even on 600mg/wk test.

honestly with deca and superdrol in there you got plenty of extra issues to deal with and the extra size is probably just gonna leave you with stretch marks man and the fucked up thing is you won't care about it until you come off cycle and you realize that they are permanent.


sorry man not trying to lecture here but seriously take what i said into consideration. i read taht you get advice from a pro buddy of yours, well that's good you need someone like that to help you out... but seriously unless you are going to go pro you don't need pro levels of gear. this whole get it all out in your first cycle thing is stupid, you are going to run many cycles this i promise you, it's like saying you're never going to get as high as the first time you use heroin so why not just go all out the first time... it just doesn't make sense, like everything in life, beginnings should be humble.

actually test only cycles are kind of just fucking awesome. they are almost the perfect cycle by themselves, you just feel so amazing, adding the deca and superdrol will give you more size for sure, but the cycle won't be as fun and you could run into some problems you don't need to deal with right now.

anyways i am excited to see how this turns out, you're gonna be a beast no matter what you decide to do, i know you did the omega project so you know what you're doing. look forward to seeing your results/pics.

 

[miplank]

I hate to speak for mwm5, but i'm pretty sure his reasoning for running 600mg/wk is due to the mg/ml of his test. He's running the 10ml hypertrophy line, which you may or may not know is 200mg/ml. To keep things simple he chose to run 3ml per week. Since most people (myself included) are running 500mg/wk of test. I personally don't see how the extra 100 mg's is really going to make that much of a difference.

 

[mus1cjunk1e]

I really don't think 600mg of test is a serious gyno worry. Especially with how lean he is (remember most aromatase is in fat tissue) especially if he is using some anti-e on cycle. Even with the deca added I think he'll be fine. Some of you guys are blowing it a little out of proportion. He's gonna blow up on this cycle

 

[10001110101]

yeah for sure, i'm just very anti-superdrol

 

[OMEGA]

how come I dont get more accollades??

 

[hurricane]

I'd suggest you run a test only cycle, but it looks liek you've made up your mind.

Sorry I missed this thread.

One thing though, do NOT run nolva with decca....nolva should not be run with nandrolones...

600mgs of test as week on first cycle is too much IMO

+1 dont like decca for a 1st cycle
no need for that much test /.. m5 says he is still growing off reg supps,no need for a 1st cycle like this, .. he would blow up off 250-500 test only cycle .best of luck

 

[ScMc]

updates updates updates

 

[the_alcatraz]

i know u're into the newer cycle theory and that's cool but i'm sticking with the tried and true for beginners. i have a good "friend" that's pretty high in the competitive world and he helps me out when i need it. 600mg is nothing, u're only going to get ONE first cycle and that is where u will get u're best results, a person shouldn't skimp on it.

with all due respect bro, you're friend is wrong in thinking that much test and decca is necessary for a first cycle.

I have friends who are high up and competing too, and they take 3 grams of test ew...that doesn't mean it's right. One of em told me to take 1.5 grams of test my third cycle. I didnt listen to him because these pros have quite different views than us....

You will probably grow very close to or jsut as much your first cycle on a much lower dose of test...and the decca is not necessary

 

[the_alcatraz]

i know u're into the newer cycle theory and that's cool but i'm sticking with the tried and true for beginners. i have a good "friend" that's pretty high in the competitive world and he helps me out when i need it. 600mg is nothing, u're only going to get ONE first cycle and that is where u will get u're best results, a person shouldn't skimp on it.

Also bro, what makes you think this is the "tried and true" for beginners??