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[miplank]

I say use the 1" pinz for your quads/delts. Everyone knows you got a phat ass!

 

[mwm5]

I say use the 1" pinz for your quads/delts. Everyone knows you got a phat ass!

phat yes Pretty Hot And Tempting

 

[searay]

1-14 test-e 600mg M,W,F
1-12 deca 300mg every Tuesday

are you saying your gonna shoot 600mg m, w, f, as in 1800mg wk total?

600mg wk first time user is pushing it. personaly i think ading in the deca is a great idea although for a first cycle i would be going 250mg test wk plus 400mg wk deca. that was one of my first cycles and i got great results. just my 2cc's..........

 

[miplank]

He means 600 wk/total

 

[halfcenturian]

STEROIDS? YOU IDIOT? YOU'RE GOING TO KILL YOURSELF?

Have fun, bro.
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[mwm5]

STEROIDS? YOU IDIOT? YOU'RE GOING TO KILL YOURSELF?

Have fun, bro.
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not for real steroids bro.........the make believe kind!

 

[needtogetaas]

I'm not too sure about this epol stuff. I've never been a big fan of these new prohormones on the market. You never really know what you're getting with that crap. Also there is very little if any scientific research done on the stuff and possible sides. At least with var this is a time tested true anabolic compound with known and predictable results. I say if you are going to use AAS then use the real thing because most if not all legitimate compounds have had many yrs of human studies and research with very predictable results.

As I'm sure you know you're going to probably get a blast of shit from those who believe you should use test only for a first cycle. There are some merits to that line of thinking. Many believe if you tolerate test well then add other compounds one at a time in subsequent cycles in the event of sides it would be easier to track down the culprit. However in the real world unless you are very susceptible to gyno (i.e. naturally large and sensitive nipples in men) you can usually get away with adding other compounds like var and deca. My first cycle ever was dbol 40mg/day X 4 wks, test-e 500mg split into 2 injections/wk 16wks along with deca 400mg/wk split in 2 injections/wk along added to the test also for 16 wks.

I got fantastic results and zero sides. I gained over 25 lbs of lean mass and got as strong as an ox. I have revisited that cycle many times since then with great results every time.

Bottom line, other than that prohormone crap I think your first cycle looks like a winner.

There is less scientific research,human studies on steroids and there side effects then you think. Most of the medical world has looked the other way on steroids. So yes they have been around much longer and we have observed them longer your statement is not 100% true.

As for the pro hormone comment you really should think about that a little more. Study up on some things and get to know just what you are injecting into yourself now. You may not beleive it but that test-e your injecting is a pro hormone bro. Its a synthetic derivative.

Synthetic(not the word Synthetic) anabolic steroids are based on the principal male hormone testosterone, modified in one of three ways:

a. Alkylation of the 17-carbon (makes them survive oral ingestion)
b. Esterification of the 17-OH group (alters active life and half life)
c. Modification of the steroid nucleus (changes their properties)


The defining structural characteristic of all steroids is their four-ring structure, consisting of 3 cyclohexane (6 sided) rings and a cyclopentane (5 sided) ring.Your body produces various steroids (and so-called pro-hormones) initially from Cholesterol which the body can eventually metabolize into testosterone.

The four-ring structure is called the Steran Nucleus, and there are four rings (A, B, C, and D), and 19 total positions on the structure.Each place where the ring has a “corner”, or is attached to another ring is a “position” on the structure.

So basically even the steroids you call steroids are in fact a form of (pro hormone) You are injecting real test when you inject deca,or sust,or take some dbol tabs. You are taking a synthetic derivative. (A pro hormone if you will).

To create different steroids you add things called carbon bonds or beta groups,and the like. This produces different types steroids(pro horemones).


Now yes some if not most pro hormones are crap for one reason or another but not all. You have to look at the ingredents or (compound structure) and at least half ass know what you are looking at to figure out if its worth it or not. Of course half the steroid world knows nothing about this though. They just want to be told what to inject and they go do it.

Lets take a look at some of the compounds mw5 is talking about here.

Superdrol
SD/m-drol/monserdrol is described as a cross between Anavar and Masteron but in reality, it is a super-saturated, or 2-reduced, form of Anadrol. Anadrol has a =C-OH at the 2nd position, and if this is totally saturated (reduced) with hydrogen, it gives -CH3. Another way to describe it is that it is a 2a-17a-dimethyl of drostanolone, or Masteron. Masteron has a single methyl group at the 2nd position. Superdrol is a modification of this structure by adding another methyl group at the 17th position. With its inability to aromatize , since it’s already reduced at the 5th position, it cannot make estrogen.
Despite being marketed as a supplement available legally and deemed another 'pro-hormone' or 'pro-steroid' by many companies and people, there is nothing very 'pro' about SD. In reality, SD is a steroid, and that is what the reader must primarily understand. It is methylated, so will cause stress on the liver, which will cause stress on blood pressure, cholesterol and lipid values. It is an anabolic/androgenic steroid, thus it has the potential to give side effects normally seen in normal anabolic steroid use


P-plex

p-plex aka Phera Plex/dmt/Madol (17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol)

also known as DMT is a potent synthetic oral anabolic steroid, first patented in 1961 by Max Huffman of the Lasdon Foundation115. This agent was never made available as a commercial prescription drug product, and saw only limited investigation in the mid-1960's before disappearing into research obscurity. Madol remained hidden in the library bookshelves for decades, until remerging in 2005 as a new "designer steroid" of interest to international sports doping officials. This was due to the confiscation of a sample of DMT at the Canadian border in December of 2003, where it was found in the possession of Canadian sprinter Derek Dueck during a routine vehicle inspection. The DMT sample remained nameless in a Customs warehouse for over a year, until officials from the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) finally became involved and had it tested and identified. Madol is only the third never commercially marketed anabolic steroid found to be in use by athletes, following norbolethone and THG.

Unlike its distant cousin methyltestosterone, Madol is unable to convert to estrogen. This means that its use should not impart the normal estrogenic side effects such as increased water retention, fat buildup, or gynecomastia. This makes it an excellent agent to use during lean tissue building cycles, having an effect somewhat along the lines of Winstrol or trenbolone. It can also be used in bulking cycles. It is neither estrogenic nor significantly androgenic, however, and therefore not going to provide the same sheer-mass-building benefits that an injectable testosterone would. In general, we can say that Madol is functionally far removed from its cousin methyltestosterone, which is known for being a problematic side-effect-producing mass builder and a terrible agent to use during cutting cycles. The one principle side effect it does share with methyltestosterone, however, its hepatotoxicity. One should respect this agent in this regard, and be conservative with its dosage and duration of use as one would any other c-17 alpha alkylated oral. It should be noted that some Progestational Activity has been noted in users of this compound.


So please don't lump everything together like that bro. You could learn a few things. Thanks good bro.

 

[mus1cjunk1e]

never put a needle all the way in, it could break. there are too many more spots you can hit with a 1in... delt, quad, pec, etc... btw, almost a gram a week is a pretty big first cycle... id suggest to drop the deca this go round, but thats just my opinion

You know that gets repeated a lot, and in all fairness it is something to keep in mind, but have you ever bent a pin with your hand? Do you see how much force it takes? Believe me, there is very little chance of that happening with a 23 or 25ga pin. Now if you were using like a 1" 29ga pin or something like that, ya I'd be worried about it.

 

[needtogetaas]

You know that gets repeated a lot, and in all fairness it is something to keep in mind, but have you ever bent a pin with your hand? Do you see how much force it takes? Believe me, there is very little chance of that happening with a 23 or 25ga pin. Now if you were using like a 1" 29ga pin or something like that, ya I'd be worried about it.

I feels the same way kind of. I bury that pin balls deep.

 

[HAYEZ]

gonna be a good cycle and ur gonna be a monster afterwards! u have a great base to start with