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im intersted to see some updates in another month! hope ur cycle is going well! everyone ive ever known do first cycles always stacked..its only recently that people started preaching test only... and those that run at 250 a week which is rediculous
 
im intersted to see some updates in another month! hope ur cycle is going well! everyone ive ever known do first cycles always stacked..its only recently that people started preaching test only... and those that run at 250 a week which is rediculous

agreed, it is another "fad" that will come and go.

i'm starting week 4 now and i've started seeing a little progress i believe. i can def feel the effects on my sex drive. it is also funny that i've been in 1 fight in my life, but feel like i can fight anybody (never would though). Vascularity has been getting better as well.
 
im intersted to see some updates in another month! hope ur cycle is going well! everyone ive ever known do first cycles always stacked..its only recently that people started preaching test only... and those that run at 250 a week which is rediculous

things improve, people learn...with time things get better and people learn better techniques

that's when the test only first cycles come in

What's the point of having a bigass cycle the first time around? how would you vary your next cycle and the one after if you're starting with a bigass cycle off the bat?

and that's still pretty dangerous to do....

I can't argue with you on this because your dosages are obscene, but you're an aas vet so you know your body and you know what you're doing
 
things improve, people learn...with time things get better and people learn better techniques

that's when the test only first cycles come in

What's the point of having a bigass cycle the first time around? how would you vary your next cycle and the one after if you're starting with a bigass cycle off the bat?

and that's still pretty dangerous to do....

I can't argue with you on this because your dosages are obscene, but you're an aas vet so you know your body and you know what you're doing

i dont think test only 1st cycles will ever become a fade .. considering test will be the base of almost ever cycle u do in your lifetime .. its essential to learn how your body reacts to it alone, ..a noob doing a dbol/test/var cant figure out wat compound is causing wat side effect, wat compound is giving most desired gains etc .. so rushing becomes counter productive ..

this is besides the fact that if someone is still growing off otc supps .. throwing all these compounds in your body isnt needed for results obviously
 
agreed, it is another "fad" that will come and go.

i'm starting week 4 now and i've started seeing a little progress i believe. i can def feel the effects on my sex drive. it is also funny that i've been in 1 fight in my life, but feel like i can fight anybody (never would though). Vascularity has been getting better as well.
wk 6-9 you should see very good gains...after that it slows back down...good luck! fighting leads to injury which leads to a waste of a cycle and loss of all gains! i always look at it like that! hahaha
 
things improve, people learn...with time things get better and people learn better techniques

that's when the test only first cycles come in

What's the point of having a bigass cycle the first time around? how would you vary your next cycle and the one after if you're starting with a bigass cycle off the bat?

and that's still pretty dangerous to do....

I can't argue with you on this because your dosages are obscene, but you're an aas vet so you know your body and you know what you're doing
i would never tell anyone to do crazy cycles, i was just saying stacking for a first cycle isnt a to big of a deal..people have been doing it for a long time and only recently has the test only and low dose cycles become popular..
chances are if someone sticks to test/eq/var or test/deca/dbol for a 1st cycle there only so many sides that will really pop up if any at all..still not to difficult to figure out wich aas is causing them
 
i would never tell anyone to do crazy cycles, i was just saying stacking for a first cycle isnt a to big of a deal..people have been doing it for a long time and only recently has the test only and low dose cycles become popular..
chances are if someone sticks to test/eq/var or test/deca/dbol for a 1st cycle there only so many sides that will really pop up if any at all..still not to difficult to figure out wich aas is causing them

If some one does the right research its not a problem. For most newbs it is and will be a problem. God I have talked to at least 20 meat heads tonight alone.... Test only is a good first cycle for the common first time user.

If we are talkng about some one who is willing to put in a damn good amount of time reserching and getting it right then yes other cycle might open up for a first time... The test only thing is a safe guard if you ask me....

I tell you what. Show me 100 newbs and you and I both know maybe 1 of then is ready for more then a test cycle and maybe only 10 of them is really ready for aas.

We all love catching that one newb who did the right thing. Worked his ass off,researched for moths and has a good grip on whats what. They are few and far between though.
 
all my knowledge on aas is from research, not use, i have no clue how my body will respond to compounds.

and I'm sure you did your due diligence in researching and learning, because you've already built an astounding physique before you even started cycling.

I just worry that you're a good bro and my conscience would not rest if I don't give the best advice I think I can give, even if it doesn't really agree with what you're saying.

Good luck to you bro. I really hope your cycle gets you to where you want to get.
 
and I'm sure you did your due diligence in researching and learning, because you've already built an astounding physique before you even started cycling.

I just worry that you're a good bro and my conscience would not rest if I don't give the best advice I think I can give, even if it doesn't really agree with what you're saying.

Good luck to you bro. I really hope your cycle gets you to where you want to get.
mwm5 is a mentor for a reason man. Because a lot of people (including myself) know he has put in the work. He has put in the research, he has put in the hours and the time. He knows diet,training,and his body... Mentor is under his name for a damn good reason and he may not be a mentor member you know well But I know him well. In fact I know this bro longer then I know you alc... No ones going to fault you for giving good advice ( which you always do) but this guy is good to go. You know your mentor team or at least you should.... Better get it right. :D
 
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