this was posted earlier in the thread. and while i give him a bit of credit for being that size at his age, he deserves NO credit whatsoever for this. it is one of the best examples ever of letting your ego get in the way of progessing.swinging a db around like that is going to get you nowhere, he obviously has a good base to work with, if only he would stop being such a fag for the camera and use lighter weight, concentrate on his form he would probably have a very good physique