ulcasterkickedout

[Sub-Zero]

this is starting to get ugly.

lol nah...

 

[H_T_]

Give me time
To realise my crime
Let me love and steal
I have danced inside your eyes
How can I be real

Do you really want to hurt me
Do you really want to make me cry

Precious kisses
Words that burn me
Lovers never ask you why
In my heart the fire’s burning
Choose my colour
Find a star
Precious people always tell me
That’s a step
A step too far

Chorus:
Do you really want to hurt me
Do you really want to make me cry
Do you really want to hurt me
Do you really want to make me cry

Words are few
I have spoken
I could waste a thousand years
Wrapped in sorrow words are token
Come inside and catch my tears
You’ve been talking but believe me
If it’s true you do not know
This boy loves without a reason
I’m prepared to let you go
If it’s love you want from me
Then take it away
Everything is not what you see
It’s over today

 

[IvanOffelitch]

im not saying you cant take offensive to certain things, but im saying deal with it.

See, that's where you and I differ. Common decency apparently means a helluvalot more to me than it does to you.

That saddens me deeply. Seriously.

and ivan, i understand your love for dogs, but shame on you...i thought you were a better bro than this.

A better bro than what?!? Having a sense of decency is a bad thing now???

Nevermind...I posted a thread a long time ago about this kind of mindset, there's no need to cover that ground again.

Y'all just go on about your business. I'm just gonna sit here and watch the inevitable unfurl.

 

[big4life]

This thread seems to have taken a wrong turn along the way, if y'all can get it back on topic it can stay open.

 

[H_T_]

it'd be nice if we could get back on track......

 

[Lestat]

Ok so Ulcaster did get out of line, he was being a total dick to people, the dog comment was rude.

But... we have stupid people, smart people, rich people, poor people, cool people, nerdy people, fat people, fit people, nice people... and yes, rude people.

I'm not saying we let ulcaster bring the place down, but I'd say he's got a place here, he's part of what makes this an eclectic community.

I see digger's reasons for the band, but if it is an absolute thing I'd say we all lose something because of it.

 

[H_T_]

Ok so Ulcaster did get out of line, he was being a total dick to people, the dog comment was rude.

But... we have stupid people, smart people, rich people, poor people, cool people, nerdy people, fat people, fit people, nice people... and yes, rude people.

I'm not saying we let ulcaster bring the place down, but I'd say he's got a place here, he's part of what makes this an eclectic community.

I see digger's reasons for the band, but if it is an absolute thing I'd say we all lose something because of it.

nicely put.

 

[digger]

what im saying is nobody should be banned, and i am for a completely relaxed attitude and very minimal moderating.

Sorry, man, but we've run into too many people who want Hustler instead of Maxim to be down with that. There are enough of them to squick the majority, but not enough to BE the majority. That's the short answer; sorry. For the most part (not always, but close enough) it turns out that my taste just happens to match up with the owner's. Not always, but more often than not, and he says "Maxim."

If we have a mod who isn't behind that, Elite Mentor status is just a PM away.

i just mentioned those instances because ivan was talking about the impact of words. i am trying to say that ulcaster's comment doesnt have a real mental impact,

Whoa. Difference of opinion here. Think about it for a second. "Raping somebody's kids" grossed you right out, as it should. But a lot more people could work themselves up to the point of killing a dog. That makes the threat more believable. Maybe that's not the right word -- but it is far too realistic, far too easy to visualize. That is real nightmare material, it gets inside your head, which is why they put the bunny scene in "Fatal Attraction." (After that scene, you knew Glenn Close had to die, didn't you?)

The people you mentioned, the ones who are being hazed -- they aren't making horror threads about seducing someone and then stabbing them in their sleep, or deliberately giving them AIDS. Or strangling their dogs. They're expressing their hurt, sure. But they're keeping it under control.

I've had a difference of opinion with a couple of the mods over one of the people you mentioned -- nothing that needs to be covered here. The truth is going to come out eventually, and then either they or I will get to say "Told you so!" No harm done in the meantime.

There's drama, and there's terrorism. Where's the line? Picking on someone's pets, that's too much like picking on their kids. That's over the line for me.

I think Ivan nailed it. Don't know if that's his true opinion or he's just trying to get inside my head, but if it's the latter he's done a good job.

And yes, I am reading the whole thread. It's not my style to ask for your input and not read it.

 

[Sub-Zero]

See, that's where you and I differ. Common decency apparently means a helluvalot more to me than it does to you.

That saddens me deeply. Seriously.


A better bro than what?!? Having a sense of decency is a bad thing now???

Nevermind...I posted a thread a long time ago about this kind of mindset, there's no need to cover that ground again.

Y'all just go on about your business. I'm just gonna sit here and watch the inevitable unfurl.

naw i shouldn thave said that, i was just getting fired up while replying to all this stuff, your a good bro, i just didnt think u would be the type to try and get someone banned and let your own feelings toward dogs influence your opinion on what ulcaster said and how it was delt with (in terms of general fairness and equality for all)

 

[H_T_]

i just wish the line were more visible. i'm sure i've crossed it before, but if i knew where it was, i'd be less likely to do so.