Tribulus dosage?

[macrophage69alpha]

the studies used pharmaceutical grade extracts. tribulus does not raise LH or testosterone. It does cause effects that would lead one to beleive that it has.

 

[bigrand]

MACRO, you have ELITE MAIL!


I recovered from a deca cycle with just tribulus and letro.....it isnt working as well this time with aromasin though.......its taking a tad longer (maybe the stimulant X im using, it destroys my sex drive for some reason).

 

[booby]

the studies used pharmaceutical grade extracts. tribulus does not raise LH or testosterone. It does cause effects that would lead one to beleive that it has.

could you expand on this?...how does it cause effects that would lead us to believe that it has raised our test level?...do you mean like a placebo effect?im very interested in this now.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

could you expand on this?...how does it cause effects that would lead us to believe that it has raised our test level?...do you mean like a placebo effect?im very interested in this now.

its dopaminergic, NO and estrogenic effects which increase libido and erection frequency leads people to beleive their test is raised, when it is not.
it is not a placebo effect (though that is also an issue), it is effects that are caused by several actions that are understandably, but incorrectly, attributed to others (increased test and LH response)

 

[sparetire]

i think t-matt is sponsoring his company here.. but I can't say anything negative about biotest, they are a legit company for what they put out..i have always had great success with their prohormone products back in the day..

 

[macrophage69alpha]

MACRO, you have ELITE MAIL!


I recovered from a deca cycle with just tribulus and letro.....it isnt working as well this time with aromasin though.......its taking a tad longer (maybe the stimulant X im using, it destroys my sex drive for some reason).

did not arrive???

that is a VERY common side of stim-x along with cotton mouth type dehydration

 

[T-Matt]

haha.. Not really.. I'll be the first to say that if something works, I'll push it all day. They have provided enough info to me and I have had enough personal experience to believe that their product Alpha Male DOES increase testosterone levels..

You must also understand that I'm over at T-nation raving about AF products, yet, I haven't even used a single one. I'm posting links to various posts over here to all the threads praising AF products.. I feel like a supplement broker.. Everyone that knows me knows they can send their friends and family to me for advice on how to make themselves more healthy and what supplements would help them achieve results the fastest..

While I do have a particular liking for Biotest, as, they have a great line of products, I have some issues with them. A while back, during the prohormone days, they were blasting prohormones like no one's business, then, out of nowhere they pop up with a line of transdermal products.. Perhaps they were, infact, able to develop a better absorbtion system but I smell the possible truth that they just wanted a piece of the pie..

If you really want to put Biotest to the test, give Surge a try, as I feel that it is their best product. Their MRPs (as I eluded to in another thread) are TASTY!!

T-Matt

i think t-matt is sponsoring his company here.. but I can't say anything negative about biotest, they are a legit company for what they put out..i have always had great success with their prohormone products back in the day..

 

[Maxgain]

the studies used pharmaceutical grade extracts. tribulus does not raise LH or testosterone. It does cause effects that would lead one to beleive that it has.

Define a pharmaceutical grade of tribulus as far as im aware it is not in any pharmacopoeia and 40% saponins is just a figure come across for reported results?

However tribulus indeed does not effect androgen production

The aphrodisiac herb Tribulus terrestris does not influence the androgen production in young men
All results were within the normal range. The findings in the current study anticipate that Tribulus terrestris steroid saponins possess neither direct nor indirect androgen-increasing properties. The study will be extended in the clarifying the probable mode of action of Tribulus terrestris steroid saponins

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...ve&db=PubMed&list_uids=15994038&dopt=Citation

 

[bigrand]

did not arrive???

that is a VERY common side of stim-x along with cotton mouth type dehydration

Mac, PMed you about it.

I experience both the loss of libido and dryness. ITs a GREAT appetite stimulant and helps me eat like only 1000-1500 cals a day and burn fat off fast.......but i honestly think the super crash diet and weight loss from the begining of the year is what cause my TE (along with the cough i had for like 3 months that tren didnt allow me to recover from!)

 

[heavy_duty]

Guy
Why would you rave about a product you have never tried?
Now when I read you pimping a product I'm gonna have to ignore it.
no disrespect intended.

haha.. Not really.. I'll be the first to say that if something works, I'll push it all day. They have provided enough info to me and I have had enough personal experience to believe that their product Alpha Male DOES increase testosterone levels..

You must also understand that I'm over at T-nation raving about AF products, yet, I haven't even used a single one. I'm posting links to various posts over here to all the threads praising AF products.. I feel like a supplement broker.. Everyone that knows me knows they can send their friends and family to me for advice on how to make themselves more healthy and what supplements would help them achieve results the fastest..

While I do have a particular liking for Biotest, as, they have a great line of products, I have some issues with them. A while back, during the prohormone days, they were blasting prohormones like no one's business, then, out of nowhere they pop up with a line of transdermal products.. Perhaps they were, infact, able to develop a better absorbtion system but I smell the possible truth that they just wanted a piece of the pie..

If you really want to put Biotest to the test, give Surge a try, as I feel that it is their best product. Their MRPs (as I eluded to in another thread) are TASTY!!

T-Matt