the 9/11 hijacker masterminds.. and american justice system

[deco]

3-5 years in guantanomo bay and I would be asking for execution aswell... anyway, i keep on reading news on how almost on monthly basis they are releasing accused murderers who were falsely incarcerated for past 20-30 years based on dna evidence. It seems like sometimes they just want to throw some people in jail or hang them just to make a point. I'm against the insanity defense and pro death penalty, but if you give it to the wrong person I think it's just really fucked up. And also, depending on how much money you have in your bank and which lawyer you can afford, there's no way of getting equal representation in court.

 

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3-5 years in guantanomo bay and I would be asking for execution aswell... anyway, i keep on reading news on how almost on monthly basis they are releasing accused murderers who were falsely incarcerated for past 20-30 years based on dna evidence. It seems like sometimes they just want to throw some people in jail or hang them just to make a point. I'm against the insanity defense and pro death penalty, but if you give it to the wrong person I think it's just really fucked up. And also, depending on how much money you have in your bank and which lawyer you can afford, there's no way of getting equal representation in court.

no system of justice is ever going to be perfect, because they are all created and administered by human beings.
but its the best system we got so until something better comes along its the best we got.

 

[deco]

no system of justice is ever going to be perfect, because they are all created and administered by human beings.
but its the best system we got so until something better comes along its the best we got.

Yes i knew that one would come into play. You know what though, I've lived in 3 very different countries and from just observation, it seems like the people that went to jail were the ones who seriously deserved it. I hate hippies and druggies but I have friend who has an MBA from one of the top schools and was charged back in college for possession of weed. Can't get a job. Hasnt smoked weed in years. For the country, they put him into counterproductive situation. In england you would get some community service for that and I think that's a fair punishment, u fucked up you pay back by working it off. Not by writing off your life. Taxpayers are paying for for people who are in jail for their existence, they are not contributing in any way, then they get out and they either commit another crime or can't get a job. Lot of laws out there are there just to clog up the system and make it bloated.

 

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Yes i knew that one would come into play. You know what though, I've lived in 3 very different countries and from just observation, it seems like the people that went to jail were the ones who seriously deserved it. I hate hippies and druggies but I have friend who has an MBA from one of the top schools and was charged back in college for possession of weed. Can't get a job. Hasnt smoked weed in years. For the country, they put him into counterproductive situation. In england you would get some community service for that and I think that's a fair punishment, u fucked up you pay back by working it off. Not by writing off your life. Taxpayers are paying for for people who are in jail for their existence, they are not contributing in any way, then they get out and they either commit another crime or can't get a job. Lot of laws out there are there just to clog up the system and make it bloated.

The major flaw in US justice system are the draconian drug laws in major need of overhaul. But this is already happening in california and other states, and will continue until at least marijuana is totally decriminalized on a federal level, which will filter down to the states in entirety. As far as the rest of the CJ system, once again, its not perfect but works.

 

[deco]

I've also lived in almost a 3rd world country. During the most corrupted times, their legal system resembled american. but still the jail was usually reserved for either corrupted politicians or people who seriously deserved to be there. I understand US is a very competitive country, but when it comes to law, you cant just make it another competition. You're dealing with peoples lifes that once and for all puts a stamp on their existence.

 

[deco]

I guess what im trying to get to is... there's better ways to punish people then just deeming them useless for rest of their lifes or throwing them in jail.

 

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I've also lived in almost a 3rd world country. During the most corrupted times, their legal system resembled american. but still the jail was usually reserved for either corrupted politicians or people who seriously deserved to be there. I understand US is a very competitive country, but when it comes to law, you cant just make it another competition. You're dealing with peoples lifes that once and for all puts a stamp on their existence.

what does this even mean, about competition? Are you saying the US tries to put as many people in jail as possible just to get the most numbers of any nation? i dont think so bro

 

[binö]

what does this even mean, about competition? Are you saying the US tries to put as many people in jail as possible just to get the most numbers of any nation? i dont think so bro

lol agree...imo bitter babbling from a bro who recently got arrested

 

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I guess what im trying to get to is... there's better ways to punish people then just deeming them useless for rest of their lifes or throwing them in jail.

Our CJ system is based on meting out justice and giving punishment, not "trying to insert them into productive situations". If youve got a better way to punish someone who commits serious crimes like murder, rape, or armed robbery, Im all ears.

 

[binö]

Our CJ system is based on meting out justice and giving punishment, not "trying to insert them into productive situations". If youve got a better way to punish someone who commits serious crimes like murder, rape, or armed robbery, Im all ears.

peeps that committ those sortsa crimes are really the victims.
the victims of racism, poverty, sexisim, homophobia, etc.
instead of jailing them, insert them into productive situations