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revexrevex said:
I was basically laughed at by a huge guy, who told me that pullups with so much weight were useless, even though I was doing it with full stretch and chin over the bar. I dont want to mention details because they probably are on this board too. I hate my gym. He was personal training a new guy, and was showing him how to do freaking cable extensions.

Rev,

You need to travel to the great plains where the big country boys train. . .lol.

Shane Hammon's hometown is 20 miles from where I live. . we also have the best wrestling and some of the best football in the country!

We know strength training in the central plains!
 
revexrevex said:
I was basically laughed at by a huge guy, who told me that pullups with so much weight were useless, even though I was doing it with full stretch and chin over the bar. I dont want to mention details because they probably are on this board too. I hate my gym. He was personal training a new guy, and was showing him how to do freaking cable extensions.

Reading things like this really piss me off. Unsolicited advice in the gym is bad enough, but that kind of negativity is simply inexcusable.

If you don't want to mention the details, that's quite alright--I'll say it for you.

If he's here, perhaps he could all enlighten us as to why heavy pull-ups or chins are a worthless exercise...beyond, of course, the fact that his dumb ass probably couldn't do them and he's simply jealous.

I saw the vids of your heavier pull-ups. The 90+bw was soooo close! That is DEFINITELY not "useless" simply because it's low-rep...there are many very, VERY strong people who think that anything above a triple is too light!

Tell that tard to go ask Poliquin about the value of heavy pull-ups. In the meantime, just laugh at these nitwits. If they persist, ask them to demonstrate a "useful" chin with lots of weight attached. Chances are good that they couldn't even do a single with the total weight that you're using for reps.
 
That massive guy had a lot of injuries from heavy lifting, he showed me 2 hernias right there near pullup bar. He said loudly to his client "Ha I want to see this" when I loaded 70 lbs on a dip belt. I did 3 reps, and he goes.. you are going to injure yourself. He obviously was very heavily juiced, and as you know your strength goes up but tendons stay same... so anyway, I can understand the guy. What I dont understand is why hew as showing him how to do cable curls, and the hand/leg position to do it more effectively!?! I walked away laughing, with half gym staring at me like an idiot.

guldukat said:


Reading things like this really piss me off. Unsolicited advice in the gym is bad enough, but that kind of negativity is simply inexcusable.

If you don't want to mention the details, that's quite alright--I'll say it for you.

If he's here, perhaps he could all enlighten us as to why heavy pull-ups or chins are a worthless exercise...beyond, of course, the fact that his dumb ass probably couldn't do them and he's simply jealous.

I saw the vids of your heavier pull-ups. The 90+bw was soooo close! That is DEFINITELY not "useless" simply because it's low-rep...there are many very, VERY strong people who think that anything above a triple is too light!

Tell that tard to go ask Poliquin about the value of heavy pull-ups. In the meantime, just laugh at these nitwits. If they persist, ask them to demonstrate a "useful" chin with lots of weight attached. Chances are good that they couldn't even do a single with the total weight that you're using for reps.
 
Friday - August 8

Seated Shoulder Press
95 x 10
145 x 3 sets x 5 reps
165 x 7!!! (+2 reps)

Shrugs on Smith: 3 x 10 to front, 2 x 10 behind

Incline Dumbell Hammer Curls: 3 x 8 @ 45 lbs

Alternate Standing Dumbell Curls: 55 x 5/5, 60 x 3/3!!!
 
revexrevex said:
That massive guy had a lot of injuries from heavy lifting, he showed me 2 hernias right there near pullup bar.

*shrugs* I don't know what to say...that kind of thing happens.

I would say that I find your overly juiced friend's "pull-ups = injury" thing perplexing, though, for two reasons:

1--Why single out chins or pull-ups?

Take a look at the past two decades of professional bodybuilding, paying special attention to the harder trainers who move some serious poundage. Have we ever heard of one injury from chinning?

Surely some of these guys DO still chin, right? Sure.

If it was such a dangerous exercise, we'd no doubt see plenty of guys who got hurt doing it.

No: we've got lots of guys who were hurt while bench pressing...Kevin Levrone's pec tear is still obvious today; we've got guys who ripped biceps doing BB rows, as Yates did; we've got dudes who "busted guts" doing squats and had to duct tape their guts in, or so says Casey Viator; and we've got plenty of other injuries attributable to squatting, leg presses, shitty form on very restrictive exercises (Platz's bouncing DB fly, which resulted in a pec tear), and so on.

It is inconsistent to single out chins/pull-ups/whatever as especially dangerous, whether you were doing 3 reps, one, or a single half-rep. He'd better go run around the gym and tell everyone else to stop doing triples on their squats and benches first--THEN maybe he can come tell you that the chin is so dangerous.

He better go find Mike Miller, too (and hope Mike doesn't use his dumb ass as a toothpick), because Mike's training dangerously! :rolleyes:

It can ALL be dangerous. It's a risk we have to take to be jacked.

2--This guy is tossing you a red herring.

A red herring is a fallacy of weak induction in logic. It's basically a subtle subject change wherein someone tosses something irrelevant, some piece of bullshit, into the fray.

For example:

"It is wasteful to punish drunk drivers when there are so many murders on the loose."

See? The argument says nothing about why it's wasteful to punish drunk driving; it tosses out something about murderers, which are totally irrelevant to the topic at hand. It switches gears on you.

Juiceboy first tells you, "That's useless." Okay, fine, though we all know that's stupid as shit.

THEN he says, "Ohh, poor me, I got injured from lifting heavy."

Well, whoop-de-fuckin'-do. He was probably using bad form and is placing improper blame on chins (false cause fallacy), but guess what?

INJURY POTENTIAL AND AN EXERCISE'S PRODUCTIVITY ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS!

He said loudly to his client "Ha I want to see this" when I loaded 70 lbs on a dip belt. I did 3 reps, and he goes.. you are going to injure yourself. He obviously was very heavily juiced, and as you know your strength goes up but tendons stay same... so anyway, I can understand the guy. What I dont understand is why hew as showing him how to do cable curls, and the hand/leg position to do it more effectively!?! I walked away laughing, with half gym staring at me like an idiot.

Sounds like a shit gym, indeed. I feel your frustration.

Cable curls are a definite wheel-spin, so it is ironic that he'd point out those "worthless" pull-ups, but what bothers me most is the guy's attitude. Stupidity I can overlook, for awhile anyway.

But the "I want to see this!" stuff is just beyond the pail. He ought to shut his mouth and mind his own damned business--the fact that he's wrong is just icing on the cake.

Unsolicited advice in the gym is like whipping out your dick at a lesbian cookingware convention: it's unwanted, not appreciated, and has a pretty good chance of being chopped right off. My name isn't John Wayne Bobbit, so I keep my little guy in my pants in such situations. And I don't run my fucking yap at relative strangers in the gym, even when I'm the biggest guy there. Pretty much, if you aren't my training partner, I do my best to ignore you beyond a nod and "sup beast" or "wassup biggun" at MOST.

I think some people simply weren't raised with any manners--that and they're in bodybuilding for ALL of the wrong reasons. Loud b.s. talkers = insecure little boys who want to hide in gorilla suits.
 
Guldukat, as always very funny post. There are definetely a lot of people with wrong attitude in weightlifting. I definetely could not see any correlation between me adding 2 reps every workout to my pullup weight, and him adding 100 lbs to his squat max and repping it out, just because he *could* during his heavy cycles. I had always trained intelligently, with a few slipups. And you are right about the guy throwing random facts into the wildfire. When I told him that I alternate between bodyweight - high rep, and weighted - low rep,.. he goes "You need to develop inside of your lats"... all of a sudden? So I ask him "From what I've read, a lat is a one big muscle, and you cannot isolate anything" - while the morons doing cable extensins or whatever at the pullup bar are looking at me and laughing like crazy. Then he switched topic again and goes "Just do behind the back pullups".. then he does 25 perfect behind the back pullups - just to demonstrate something to me. I told him that it was very impressive, and asked him for his weight and told him that he indeed had a very impressive physique. He is actually the owner of the gym I workout at. I told him that "I wont be like everyone else in this gym who is wasting their time". He agreed (again randomly) scoffing that "These people don't know anything". So I started thinking, the guy is a hypocrit. He just told me that I don't know what I am doing, and now he is telling me that the rest of people training in the gym don't know what they are doing either. Why was he telling me not to do heavy pullups, when right next to us, some skinny kid was repping 225, WITH HUGE assist from his training partner. He was basically dropping the bar on his chest, with his elbows flared far out. i know that when I bring the bar slowly with my elbows out, my shoulders will hurt for days, but that skinny guy was just freefalling the bar. Why didnt the big guy told those kids that it was useless, and instead attacked me and my pullups. The only thing I can get from that is he was impressed, thats why I simply shrugged it off, and moved on to my heavy bent over rows.
 
good job on the pr's and don't worry about the haters, a lot of people criticize my training let the result speak for themselves. I do want to point out try some rear delt work since it looks like you are lacking them a little from your avatar pic. trust me it will help out all the other upper body lifts
 
if you want to do floor presses do them....then when the next guy cant bench as much as you he might reconsider!!!!
 
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