Oral AAS before a workout.

[genarr3]

Can't stay. But I couldn't resist this one.

FACT: D-bol is in the bloodstream approximately one hour after ingestion. ...

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Glad to see you back bro.

 

[rjl296]

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References will be provided upon presention of proof that an apple is red.



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good one.

but now im confused

 

[Juice Authority]

FACT: A blood test at this time will reveal an elevaton of testosterone and red blood count.

Wonderful to see you back Bro. I've missed you .

Anyway, back to your facts....so D-bol raises testosterone?? This I was unaware of. Many people take D-bol in cutting cycles since it raises dopamine levels which helps in burning fat. As for the evalation on Testosterone, I don't know about that one. It really doesn't raise test levels that much but it has an incredible impact on muscle catabolism.

 

[sk*]

References will be provided upon presention of proof that an apple is red.

HA, you're nitpicking. Noone asked you to define the universe!

Nice to see you back.

-sk

 

[JibbyJabba]

Wonderful to see you back Bro. I've missed you .

Anyway, back to your facts....so D-bol raises testosterone?? This I was unaware of. Many people take D-bol in cutting cycles since it raises dopamine levels which helps in burning fat. As for the evalation on Testosterone, I don't know about that one. It really doesn't raise test levels that much but it has an incredible impact on muscle catabolism.

Taken from Anabolicreview:

"Dianabol reaches the blood after 1-3 hours. A simple application of only 10 mg results in a 5-fold increase in the average testosterone concentration in the male."

Now... whether or not you agree that Dbol actually does increase testosterone is one thing... however, I don't know how you can be part of the online AS community and have never had heard this before... it's on every other Dianabol drug profile... it's not like Nelson pulled this out of his ass.

JJ

 

[hhajdo]

DBol will lower your test levels.

 

[JibbyJabba]

DBol will lower your test levels.

Well... I think it's obvious that using Dbol will shut you down, however I don't think that is what is being referred to here.

Take prohormones for example. As in, prohormones overall will impair your HPTA, but will lead to a short-lived (a matter of hours) increase in endogenous testosterone. This is what I have heard is the case with Dianabol as well. I guess I am thinking of Dbol as somewhat of a prohormone in this respect (with regards to testosterone - and please realize I don't consider Dbol to be a prohormone).

Am I making sense? I realize I could be way off-base here, but this is just what I've picked up along the way and I think it's what Nelson was saying when he said that one's serum testosterone levels will be elevated within a few hours of ingestion.

Now... I believe this because I believe Nelson and I've heard it many times. However, I know you're the study man... so please show me why/If you believe I am wrong here.

JJ

 

[Juice Authority]

Taken from Anabolicreview:

"Dianabol reaches the blood after 1-3 hours. A simple application of only 10 mg results in a 5-fold increase in the average testosterone concentration in the male."

Now... whether or not you agree that Dbol actually does increase testosterone is one thing... however, I don't know how you can be part of the online AS community and have never had heard this before... it's on every other Dianabol drug profile... it's not like Nelson pulled this out of his ass.

JJ

I'm aware of that but I've seen studies that conclusively show that D-bol had the opposite effect whereby it decreased Testosterone levels. Do you think the information posted on various drug profiles is always completely accurate??? I don't think so. A lot of information available is dated and inaccurate.

 

[hhajdo]

Well... I think it's obvious that using Dbol will shut you down, however I don't think that is what is being referred to here.

Take prohormones for example. As in, prohormones overall will impair your HPTA, but will lead to a short-lived (a matter of hours) increase in endogenous testosterone. This is what I have heard is the case with Dianabol as well. I guess I am thinking of Dbol as somewhat of a prohormone in this respect (with regards to testosterone - and please realize I don't consider Dbol to be a prohormone).

Am I making sense? I realize I could be way off-base here, but this is just what I've picked up along the way and I think it's what Nelson was saying when he said that one's serum testosterone levels will be elevated within a few hours of ingestion.

Now... I believe this because I believe Nelson and I've heard it many times. However, I know you're the study man... so please show me why/If you believe I am wrong here.

JJ

DBol doesn't convert to test.
If you take it, blood level of methandrostenolone & its metabolites will increase, test will actually go down...
You really shouldn't rely on those profiles bro...

 

[JibbyJabba]

I'm aware of that but I've seen studies that conclusively show that D-bol had the opposite effect whereby it decreased Testosterone levels. Do you think the information posted on various drug profiles is always completely accurate??? I don't think so. A lot of information available is dated and inaccurate.

Are you sure you're not a woman? Always twisting shit around.

I never said I had some sort of definitive proof as to whether or not this is true... never didi I calim a drug profile to be any sort of proof. You have a major problem with reading into things and not reading exactly what people write.

I just took issue when you made it seem like Nelson was saying something about Dbol that was completely new and foreign - I have heard/read this about Dbol many times. Given that it pops up so much that it is almost common knowledge, the burden to prove otherwise lies upon you. You claim you have seen studies that conclusively prove that, upon ingestion, Dbol lowers serum levels of testosterone. Ok... post them... I have no reason to believe you over Nelson until you do so.

JJ