Newbie cycles that vets could learn from.

[Calwin]

Thank you for this info. As a newbie, I've been confused about all the different cycles that others have been recommending. I will follow ur advice and go with the smaller dbol dosages to start with.

 

[Hard Gainer Blast]

Thanks Real gains, What about using test instead of deca or sustanon? I should be on the right track with the information givin, I have been told by doctors that my metabolism is faster then most, so if i use a stack should i continue to take my weight gainer powder and protien and creatine?

 

[Realgains]

Thanks Real gains, What about using test instead of deca or sustanon? I should be on the right track with the information givin, I have been told by doctors that my metabolism is faster then most, so if i use a stack should i continue to take my weight gainer powder and protien and creatine?

By your questions I can tell that you need to do a lot more research bro. Take your time and in the mean time learn how to train like a hard gainer.
Test is test and yes it would be good.

RG

 

[hardasnails73]

Ok I'm going to prove to that high dosages are not required to obtain a national level phyisque. I have been training clean for 11 months so my receptors are wide opening and ready to go. I have been learning my body with out chemicals and pushing the envelope with training methods. I'm 26 weeks out from the junior nationals and 30 weeks out form the NPC . Gentically I'm very lean to begin with so gaining lean muscle is not a problem. Currently I'm 5'9 210 at 5.5% bf with out gear.

this is my cycle laid out

4 weeks 420 protein 300 carbs 80 grams fat (1/3 to 1/2 from EFAS calories do rotate accordning to traing and non training days
100 mgs fina every m,w,f
75 mgs Winni per day divided into 2 dosages of 35 mgs spaced out 8 -10 hours a part
1 propescia /day
4-5 ius insulin 3 times a day for 2 days a week (legs, back day )

4 weeks (beverly diet) 3 day low 2 spike meals m, th
recovery clomid armidex

6 weeks caloires 400 protein 200 carbs 80 -100 grams fat (mostly efas)
1 cc sus/ 1 cc of 200 mg eq every 4-5 days
3 ius gh a day 5 days on 2 off
2.5 mg of femura a day

2 weeks off
gh keeps going

4-6 weeks start carb rotation
75 mgs fina/100 mgs prop m,w,f
75 mgs winni daily
2.5 mgs femura
3 ius gh 5 days on 2 off

cardio 3-4 days a week high and low intesnity done first thing in the morning


supplement
BCAAS
Whey protein
ALA
GLutemine
recovery rx
EFAS

my goals 220-225 at 5% by 8 weeks out to come in as a full light heavy weight

I will post results and pics in 4 weeks

Good luck to all in future competition

Hardasnails

 

[trimtan1]

Realgains........you have mail bro.

 

[louis]

There you go Real.....Stuck! While I do think people should use low doses as much as possible for as long as, I do have to admit that my dosages have accelerated a lot this year. I am still using far less than many of the people I compete aginst but I have posted my cycles and they are pretty high now but if you wanna run with the big dogs..........If it is just for yourself and you do not compete take your time a little bit......Rome was not built in a day!

Quad

P.S. Good Post Realgains!

well said bro

 

[akia]

Re: Newbie cycles

>After doing much digging in regard to the way men used to cycle >years ago I have come to the conclusion that 98% of us use too >much gear....please read on.

>I have always been a believer in using as little gear as possible >but even I have used way too much in the past and this has >resulted in big sides.

<...>

>10-20 of d-bol alone in four divided doses per day for 6 weeks

how's this for a short simple light oral cycle

week 1 - 2 5mg dbol a day
week 2 - 3 5mg dbol a day + 2 winny a day
week 3 - 2 5mg dbol a day + 3 winny a day

at 21 days it matches my gf's pill cycle...

low dosages for just 3 weeks should have mild side effects...

and I'm not expecting to put on 100# of beef.

and with 1 100ct bottle of dbol and 4 20 tab strips of winstrol you can do it twice with 5 weeks in between (again matching gf's pill cycle)

 

[akia]

Hi,

I agree.

the pro bb's do look like freaks...

Scott Steiner looks good.

Well I am sure that today's top guys are using FAR more than anyone ever even thought of 30 years ago, but look at the differences in physiques, pro BB's used to be good looking men 25 years ago, they look like circus freaks now...but I don't think anyone will ever know for sure exactly what they took except themselves. I seriously doubt they will ever come out and give exact cycles.

 

[two twenty]

not everyone reacts the same to smaller doses, those guys are probably exceptions and reacted very well. In my first cycle, i needed 100mg of winny/day and almost 100mg/fina to see results, lower doses would've given me crap. I did everything right, didnt feel a pump till i upped to those doses... but i did gain 25lbs on a cutting cycle

Is that all you took and gained 25 lb? what kind of diet did you do? sounds like something I would like to do.

 

[|3ossman]

Is that all you took and gained 25 lb? what kind of diet did you do? sounds like something I would like to do.

um, for some reason i dont think he'll answer