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Basically wanting to get my ass in gear if that makes sense. I'm 5'9 slim 180 so I'm not worried too much bout cutting but definitely wanna bulk up and I think for the time bein is like to go the oral route. Just wanna make sure I do it correctly so I don't get ED titties and would prefer to not rage out or have anythang mess wit my mental health. How do I find a solid source and also do it the right way
 
Basically wanting to get my ass in gear if that makes sense. I'm 5'9 slim 180 so I'm not worried too much bout cutting but definitely wanna bulk up and I think for the time bein is like to go the oral route. Just wanna make sure I do it correctly so I don't get ED titties and would prefer to not rage out or have anythang mess wit my mental health. How do I find a solid source and also do it the right way
Oral only cycle is a really bad idea orals are ment to compliment a cycle not to be used on there own your best bet depending on your bloods and health makers would be a small dose of testosterone especially for your first cycle
Depending on the oral you are wanting to try there are a lot of risk factors to be aware of like liver and kidney damage
 
Oral only cycle is a really bad idea orals are ment to compliment a cycle not to be used on there own your best bet depending on your bloods and health makers would be a small dose of testosterone especially for your first cycle
Depending on the oral you are wanting to try there are a lot of risk factors to be aware of like liver and kidney damage
I been thinkin more towards anadrol and maybe tbol. I'm kinda nervous bout pinning but also I'ma a lot less worried bout cholesterol blood pressure etc
 
I been thinkin more towards anadrol and maybe tbol. I'm kinda nervous bout pinning but also I'ma a lot less worried bout cholesterol blood pressure etc
That's understandable being nervous to pin
But trust me the results will be very different
Anadrol is great but I wouldn't be using everyday
 
This where I'm at right now I imagine you can see exactly why I wanna bulk BIG
 

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I been thinkin more towards anadrol and maybe tbol. I'm kinda nervous bout pinning but also I'ma a lot less worried bout cholesterol blood pressure etc
As @Grumpy1 said always best to run a test base and low dose test would be ideal by itself initially. Obviously get bloods first and understand the markers.
I wouldn't suggest to start with Anadrol without a solid history of lifting. Otherwise your strength will increase a lot quicker than your connective tissues can adapt which can lead to injury. Speaking from experience.
If you insisted on the oral route Turinabol or Anavar both good options but still not necessary in the first cycle and not without a test base. Anavar has the added benefit of collagen synthesis which will help the connective tissues adapt. Both low sides but stay hydrated and use a good cycle support.

Lots of good vendors on here. @RegenexPharma have very good Anavar and Tbol.
 
Basically wanting to get my ass in gear if that makes sense. I'm 5'9 slim 180 so I'm not worried too much bout cutting but definitely wanna bulk up and I think for the time bein is like to go the oral route. Just wanna make sure I do it correctly so I don't get ED titties and would prefer to not rage out or have anythang mess wit my mental health. How do I find a solid source and also do it the right way

This where I'm at right now I imagine you can see exactly why I wanna bulk BIG
best way to start bro is to start a log
you want results and not get messed up right? a log is a MUST
10min of your time to start it up and EF will help you all of us
@lorensharp0990
HOW-TO LOG?

Why is a Log Journal important?
  • Doing a log will actually help you way more than just dropping random updates. When you lay it all out week by week you start to see patterns in your body that you won’t catch otherwise.
  • Other guys here run logs all the time and there’s no privacy issue, nobody is asking for your name or anything personal, it is just training, diet, and how the compound feels.
  • The feedback you get is also way better because people can follow along and spot things you might miss. It also helps the next guy who is thinking about running the same compound so you are giving back while you learn.
  • Even if you think you might not stick with it, just starting the log makes it easier to come back and add quick notes. That way you get more out of what you are running instead of keeping it all in your head.

To really guide you we need more info from you.
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  • Please post a Log Journal asap for us

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Thanks for the referrals @Grumpy1 and @Scuffer 🙌💜 much appreciated.
We can definitely sort him out with whatever he needs to purchase.
As the guys have mentioned, so much time and dedication goes into the members on here that are completely jacked, shredded and huge.
Its not an overnight thing (unfortunately 😂) but you need to see how your body responds to compounds before just blasting eberuthing.
Stay safe brother 🙌🙌
 
Whenever I start what symptoms do I need to watch out for and pay attention to?? What's the best preferably oral for lean mass for someone brand new to it. Where and how in TF do I get labs done?? Can I get em done at home??
Get your baseline bloods,
You can purchase a path referral through roidsafe online, use promp code UGL2025 for some $$ off.
To which you can print out and take to a pathology.
You'll get your result's within 24-72hours.

That's if youre from Australia.

Honestly,
Would be best to scrap the idea of orals just now,
And start with a weekly dose of Test-E 100-150mg,
The re-assess your bloods at 6 weeks in.
(You're just going to have to try overcome the fear of jabbing yourself,
Everyone feels a bit weird first up I certainly did, then it becomes second nature.)
 
Get your baseline bloods,
You can purchase a path referral through roidsafe online, use promp code UGL2025 for some $$ off.
To which you can print out and take to a pathology.
You'll get your result's within 24-72hours.

That's if youre from Australia.

Honestly,
Would be best to scrap the idea of orals just now,
And start with a weekly dose of Test-E 100-150mg,
The re-assess your bloods at 6 weeks in.
(You're just going to have to try overcome the fear of jabbing yourself,
Everyone feels a bit weird first up I certainly did, then it becomes second nature.)
Great advice from @CookieBaah
An oral only cycle will shut down your natural test production either way @lorensharp0990
If you can't get past the idea of pinning yourself you could find a nurse friend who can.
But as @CookieBaah said bloods first.

Side effects will differ depending on compound. But don't dive in and throw a few compounds in off the bat as you won't be able to pinpoint what works and what doesn't.

E2 sides will increase sensitive or puffy nips, acne etc.

Blood pressure monitor is also important not trying to steer you away from getting enhanced but there is plenty to think about when it comes to health and longevity. This is from someone who tanked their natural test production running orals only and also looking at breast gland removal as not understanding ratios of test:e2 and having developed a small piece of gyno.

Hows your training, diet and sleep?
 
Great advice from @CookieBaah
An oral only cycle will shut down your natural test production either way @lorensharp0990
If you can't get past the idea of pinning yourself you could find a nurse friend who can.
But as @CookieBaah said bloods first.

Side effects will differ depending on compound. But don't dive in and throw a few compounds in off the bat as you won't be able to pinpoint what works and what doesn't.

E2 sides will increase sensitive or puffy nips, acne etc.

Blood pressure monitor is also important not trying to steer you away from getting enhanced but there is plenty to think about when it comes to health and longevity. This is from someone who tanked their natural test production running orals only and also looking at breast gland removal as not understanding ratios of test:e2 and having developed a small piece of gyno.

Hows your training, diet and sleep?
I'm in the States. My diet honestly I jus try to shove protein and carbs in I sleep from about 630/7 AM to 1 o'clock except on weekends sometimes I'll sleep in or try to catch up. I work12 hour days 5 days a week and have a 40 minute drive each way to work. When I wake up at 1 I take my pre workout and creatine and some protein powder then walk to the gym when I'm done then I have more creatine and protein with milk and egg whites usually. And honestly I appreciate your helping talk me thru this but there's not much goin to stop me from getting enhanced I'm just trying to be smart about it. I should already have some headed my way tbol and anadrol both orals but I'm bout ready to say fuck it get the labs get the test pin pray push pull lol.
 
I'm in the States. My diet honestly I jus try to shove protein and carbs in I sleep from about 630/7 AM to 1 o'clock except on weekends sometimes I'll sleep in or try to catch up. I work12 hour days 5 days a week and have a 40 minute drive each way to work. When I wake up at 1 I take my pre workout and creatine and some protein powder then walk to the gym when I'm done then I have more creatine and protein with milk and egg whites usually. And honestly I appreciate your helping talk me thru this but there's not much goin to stop me from getting enhanced I'm just trying to be smart about it. I should already have some headed my way tbol and anadrol both orals but I'm bout ready to say fuck it get the labs get the test pin pray push pull lol.
Also I work out anywhere from 4 to 6 days a week usually 5 or 6 but every now and then it's all I can do to drag my ass outta bed
 
Just wanted to hop on here and listen something I have a lot of questions and I'm brand new at this so any guidance would be appreciated
Welcome to EF bro! Since your training is that often per week I think a log would be your best bet here and EF will help you out. Check out @the_alcatraz's how-to guide on logging https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/threads/new-here.1518142/#post-19305496. A lot is great for the motivation and accountability you're feeling that you need and will help you a ton!

You have a good base physique that you've clearly worked on and you look great. We can help you put on some muscle and get those goals started 100%

We have a podcast on oral only cycles you can listen to here ➡️


Oral only cycles are doable but I recommend starting off with a baseline bloodwork for us to use to help guide you. You can also go the route of a Testosterone base as well. You won't 'roid rage' or get "titties" or gyno if you help us help you.

You're in the USA so your best bet is to get @US-pharmacies domestic. You can shop USP here ➡️ https://us-pharmacies.to/ or click their banner at the top of the forum board.
 
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