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truckdaddy
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great thread!
My SARMS-S4 Experience
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mrplunkey
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I need to get more blood work done. I've been traveling so much that I have no idea where it will be. The HCG did get my appetite going like gangbusters but I haven't really taken on body weight or fat.
ChemWiz
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mrplunkey
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I'm hanging in there. I stopped HCG and I'm almost certain my natural test is back to normal.
I need to get bloodwork done soon.
EliteFitnessGuy
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I just got my blood tests.
5th February (after an 8-week Anavar cycle):
HDL: 0.51 mmol/l 1-2.1 *(---)
LDL: 5.48 mmol/l 1.2-3 (---)*
LDL:HDL 10.75:1
Testosterone total: 11.25 ng/dl 285-800 *(---)
ALT: 0.76 ukat/l 0.05-0.85 (-*-)
AST: 0.75 ukat/l 0.05-0.89 (-*-)
15th March (after 5 1/2 weeks, and after 4 1/2 weeks of taking S-4, 15-30 mg/day):
HDL: 0.68 mmol/l
LDL: 3.11 mmol/l
LDL:HDL 4.57:1
Testosterone total: 132.12 ng/dl
ALT: 0.46 ukat/l
AST: 0.75 ukat/l
The cholesterol values improve quite rapidly, I am actually below the "lower risk ratio" 5:1 already, and I am heading towards the "desirable optimal ratio" 3,5:1. I don't know, what are my normal values, however.
The AST values still don't return to my normal level, but they are within the normal range.
My testosterone is nevertheless still very low, although nearly 12-times higher than last time. This is disappointing, because I already felt fine this weekend. On Sunday, I had a heavy training and maybe my test subsequently decreased a bit. In any case, I seriously consider using HCG, because this pace is too slow. On the other hand, it is known that the initial improvement of testosterone levels after a long cycle is slow.
The raising of my S-4 dosage from ca. 15 mg/day to 30 mg/day didn't bring anything spectacular, although the fall of my body weight stopped and it seems that I basically keep my strength performances during the last week.
5th February (after an 8-week Anavar cycle):
HDL: 0.51 mmol/l 1-2.1 *(---)
LDL: 5.48 mmol/l 1.2-3 (---)*
LDL:HDL 10.75:1
Testosterone total: 11.25 ng/dl 285-800 *(---)
ALT: 0.76 ukat/l 0.05-0.85 (-*-)
AST: 0.75 ukat/l 0.05-0.89 (-*-)
15th March (after 5 1/2 weeks, and after 4 1/2 weeks of taking S-4, 15-30 mg/day):
HDL: 0.68 mmol/l
LDL: 3.11 mmol/l
LDL:HDL 4.57:1
Testosterone total: 132.12 ng/dl
ALT: 0.46 ukat/l
AST: 0.75 ukat/l
The cholesterol values improve quite rapidly, I am actually below the "lower risk ratio" 5:1 already, and I am heading towards the "desirable optimal ratio" 3,5:1. I don't know, what are my normal values, however.
The AST values still don't return to my normal level, but they are within the normal range.
My testosterone is nevertheless still very low, although nearly 12-times higher than last time. This is disappointing, because I already felt fine this weekend. On Sunday, I had a heavy training and maybe my test subsequently decreased a bit. In any case, I seriously consider using HCG, because this pace is too slow. On the other hand, it is known that the initial improvement of testosterone levels after a long cycle is slow.
The raising of my S-4 dosage from ca. 15 mg/day to 30 mg/day didn't bring anything spectacular, although the fall of my body weight stopped and it seems that I basically keep my strength performances during the last week.
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mrplunkey
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This is consistent with my results. You do recover testosterone on SARMS-S4, but it may be a little more slowly than on pure HCG.
I've done HCG now and need to get more bloodwork done. Then I'm going to do a pure 50 mg/day sarms-s4 cycle and see what it does to my test levels.
DJLegacy2k1
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Its probably recovering SLOWLY because SARMS is lightly suppressive and is slowing the process as many of us including the medical studies have been saying all along 
SARMS is NOT a PCT drug no matter how many GOOD BROS want to find a magical use for it.
-Legacy
SARMS is NOT a PCT drug no matter how many GOOD BROS want to find a magical use for it.-Legacy
ChemWiz
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Its probably recovering SLOWLY because SARMS is lightly suppressive and is slowing the process as many of us including the medical studies have been saying all along
-Legacy
The fact he is recovering while on s4 shows that is not suppressive, i think it is good in PCT. These guys just came of cycle and there test levels are rising.
That is a good thing.
DJLegacy2k1
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Faulty reasoning, just because SARMS isnt AS suppressive as the LAST compound, the fact that it is recovering at a much slower rate means something is SLOWING it results, which one could assume would be a LIGHTLY suppressive compound, such as SARMS which is making its hard or impossible to recover 100%.
-Legacy
EliteFitnessGuy
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One should take into consideration that after 2 months on Anavar I was practically 100% suppressed. This is like coming off a Deca cycle. Obviously, S-4 helps, because normally I would have already lost all my gains at this time. It's unpleasant that my initial dosage was (unintentionally) too low and that I was experiencing problems during the 3rd week. The regeneration rate of my testosterone may have been slowed, but I can't really say, because I have never measured my testosterone before, after my previous two cycles.
Sure, the combination of S-4 with a testosterone boosting stuff (HCG or at least exemestane) would be the best solution. I seriously consider ordering HCG, because my S-4 bottle is nearly half-empty, and I will need some S-4 for my next PCT.
