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My Final First Cycle

hehateme000 said:
haha got you...and thanks i will post it up. ya this is what y cycle is

week 1-10 = testosterone enanthate 300mg EW (Mon)
week 1-10 = proviron 25mg ED
week 3-10 = HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - 250 iu 2x EW (Mon/Thur)
week 12-16 = clomid 50mg ED
week 12-16 = Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - 40/20/20/20

i dont have an aromatase inhibitor, i dont really think ill need one. how does it look....should i get one?

IMO you could use the nolv if any gynecomastia occured but @ that dose you should be good

that looks well laidout
 
hehateme000 said:
haha got you...and thanks i will post it up. ya this is what y cycle is

week 1-10 = testosterone enanthate 300mg EW (Mon)
week 1-10 = proviron 25mg ED
week 3-10 = HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - 250 iu 2x EW (Mon/Thur)
week 12-16 = clomid 50mg ED
week 12-16 = Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - 40/20/20/20

i dont have an aromatase inhibitor, i dont really think ill need one. how does it look....should i get one?

Bro it looks ok you could treek a few thing but start your own threat this is syringemouths .

Brad. :qt:
 
hehateme000 said:
haha got you...and thanks i will post it up. ya this is what y cycle is

week 1-10 = testosterone enanthate 300mg EW (Mon)
week 1-10 = proviron 25mg ED
week 3-10 = HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - 250 iu 2x EW (Mon/Thur)
week 12-16 = clomid 50mg ED
week 12-16 = Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - 40/20/20/20

i dont have an aromatase inhibitor, i dont really think ill need one. how does it look....should i get one?
Always have one.
 
Needto, I thought Test E had a half life of ~21 days? Is it less then that, and is that why the PCT is started 2 weeks after the final shot?
 
mookie said:
Aren't you supposed to be a mod? Start acting like one just because someone says something that you don't agree with you shouldn't fly off the handle. Another thing people don't like being called boy. I forgot your the guru you should post up those pics again and show all your newbies that sculpted body you have from all those cycles :p

Easy Mookie. He didn't mean anything racial using the term 'boy.'
 
eddymerckx said:
the only thing i might suggest if you can afford it is get some bloodwork before you do your 1st cycle that way they have a baseline of what is "normal" for you.

oh, and your cycle looks fine(i prefer lower for a 1st, but if you gave your stats etc to needto, i'll defer to him)--just be patient b/c it takes a while to feel the testosterone enanthate. good luck

That is excellent advice.
 
Jumpmaster82 said:
don't listen to that fuckstick, 250mg isn't a high enough dose for a good cycle. But your cycle looks good for a first. But i dont think Arimidex - anastrozole - is needed for 6 weeks bro. And to everyone that doesnt know, THATS WHY YOU DONT FUCK WITH NEEDTO!!!! Thats awesome needto keep these nonothing fucks in check bro!

I think that Slat would disagree with 250mg not being a good first cycle. If I can quote him right, he has 8 abs, used to eat less than 50g carbs per day, and can still grow on 250mg of test per week.

I think 500mg will yield better results of course and I don't subscribe to the idea that you will always have to use more to get results.

But Needto's cycle for this guy is good. Even if someone disagrees they don't need to bash Needto for the way he set it up. A lot of these can really be designed based around personal preferences. But for someone to give conflicting advice and then bash Needto on his advice is pretty stupid.
 
racingmason said:
Needto, I thought testosterone enanthate had a half life of ~21 days? Is it less then that, and is that why the PCT - post cycle therapy - is started 2 weeks after the final shot?

The half life of enanthate, which I see quoted the most, is 10.5 days. Some have said that it is more like 5 days which is why you shoot monday/thursday. Since I believe it is 10.5 days shooting on a schedule like that or even every 5th day will keep the blood levels stable.

Thus PCT is started 2 weeks out since 50% of the compound will be in your system at that point and you are trying to stimulate your body into resuming production of its natural T.

There is no true definitive answer that says it will work better for YOU if you do it on week 2 or wait until week three, but clearly you want exogenous levels to start dropping before trying to coax your body into producing T again.
 
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