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You obviously don't trust him regardless if he is guilty or not so why the hell are you even with him?

You're relationship/marriage/whateveritis is doomed no matter the outcome of this panty episode.
 
alien amp pharm said:
You obviously don't trust him regardless if he is guilty or not so why the hell are you even with him?

You're relationship/marriage/whateveritis is doomed no matter the outcome of this panty episode.
no shit
coupled with the mistrust is wine/sleeping aids
doesn't sound like a clear head
i feel sorry for the dude, convicted w/o trial by his own wife and online peers.
 
Another thing: Reguardless of the fact if he cheated or didnt cheat....he still acts as if she is the crazy one / or the one overreacting when he should at least be more understanding as to why she is upset. I think anyone would be upset if they found this in the laundry...and he acts as if she is the crazy one. In my opinion that is the number one sign of deception of some sort. Make everyone else feel crazy and overreacting when they call them on their shit. Its called manipulation.
 
sooo... myway... does he get to film himself live when the Indep PD come by to bust you two for domestic violence and put it on COPS?
 
cindylou said:
Another thing: Reguardless of the fact if he cheated or didnt cheat....he still acts as if she is the crazy one / or the one overreacting when he should at least be more understanding as to why she is upset. I think anyone would be upset if they found this in the laundry...and he acts as if she is the crazy one. In my opinion that is the number one sign of deception of some sort. Make everyone else feel crazy and overreacting when they call them on their shit. Its called manipulation.
well maybe she is the crazy one
she's been drinking, just had a kid, couped up at home
the right mix for freaking out.
everyone is so quick to damn the dude w/o being willing to hear the whole story
 
Bino,

I know you think his nonchalance is a point in his favor...I see it as the opposite. As cindy said, it's a tool of manipulation. He has a history of lying to her about contact with women, and one of the consequences of that is that in the future the burden of proof is on him, not her. In his shoes, were I innocent, I would have moved heaven and earth to prove my innocence. Not gone to bed at 8 and said, "you should just trust me." If I were innocent, I would have been sick to my stomach at the thought of my spouse sitting up all night trying to "just trust me."

No, I would have been right there with her, staying up all night trying to come up with answers.
 
nefertiti said:
In his shoes, were I innocent, I would have moved heaven and earth to prove my innocence. Not gone to bed at 8 and said, "you should just trust me." If I were innocent, I would have been sick to my stomach at the thought of my spouse sitting up all night trying to "just trust me."

On the other hand, his coolness could be construed as a good sign. Maybe he genuinely sees no need for concern and has moved on already.
 
nefertiti said:
Bino,

I know you think his nonchalance is a point in his favor...I see it as the opposite. As cindy said, it's a tool of manipulation. He has a history of lying to her about contact with women, and one of the consequences of that is that in the future the burden of proof is on him, not her. In his shoes, were I innocent, I would have moved heaven and earth to prove my innocence. Not gone to bed at 8 and said, "you should just trust me." If I were innocent, I would have been sick to my stomach at the thought of my spouse sitting up all night trying to "just trust me."

No, I would have been right there with her, staying up all night trying to come up with answers.

there is nothing obivious about this mess, except your impartial vision.
one could make the claim that she:
-has a history of buggin out and destroying things
-drinks and get's emotional
-needs constant reafirmation of her greatness/sexyness
adding these together leaves me with the impression that nothing here is obvious and that convicting a man, her husband, over a pair of panties that he claims he knows nothing about is premature, reactionary, and unjustified.
but, it's "obvious" to me that you and most others on here don't want to hear the possible other side to the story, cause then things might not be so "obvious."
please excuse yourself from all jury trials,
your's in sport,
bino
 
Bino said:
there is nothing obivious about this mess, except your impartial vision.
one could make the claim that she:
-has a history of buggin out and destroying things
-drinks and get's emotional
-needs constant reafirmation of her greatness/sexyness
adding these together leaves me with the impression that nothing here is obvious and that convicting a man, her husband, over a pair of panties that he claims he knows nothing about is premature, reactionary, and unjustified.
but, it's "obvious" to me that you and most others on here don't want to hear the possible other side to the story, cause then things might not be so "obvious."
please excuse yourself from all jury trials,
your's in sport,
bino


Bino...that was a typo - I was writing fast and didn't realize till a few minutes later that I wrote "obvious" where I had intended to write "opposite"...I switched it before your post here, as you can see in the part you quoted. I agree there's nothing obvious about it. All the points you made, I have already considered...I was just offering you another side. With that in mind, care to respond again?
 
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