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Is anyone else here afraid to die?

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I am fucking terrified of it. Anytime i think about it or what it might be like, etc. it totally fucks with me and i get super scared and nervous, and like im going to start crying.
 
Only when I think about the possibility of knowing I'm about to die. I don't believe in afterlife so I picture me being in a box conscious but unable to move, speak or hear........which now that I think about it implies some kinda afterlife, don't it? Well fuck me...
 
I think about it more now that I have a daughter. I am not afraid of death. I am afraid of not being there for her.
 
used to be afraid, but that fear soon ebbed and disappeared. i do not fear death whether it be sooner or later. i also don't believe once you die that is the end of it.
 
Not at all. I try to do good things while I'm here. The whole after I'm gone thing is out of my control, and I'm fine with that. I don't like that me being dead will make others sad, but that's life.
 
Most are afraid to live.
Shit it can be pretty scary.
Either way... yeah.

Me, I"m just diggin on people who dig, tunnels that is.

LOL

Hey Smurf.
 
Despite being raised Catholic, I don't even know what "God" is exactly or what what happens when our bodies shit the bed. I do think though that logic supports the idea that our consciousness survives in some form, and that ourselves are greater than the sum of our organic parts.

Just strikes me as plain dopey that reasoning adults think they are just their brains, livers, hearts, etc. I suspect a lot of people support that notion b/c they find it strangely comforting. Perhaps the idea of having to continue on forever terrifies them.
 
when you have God in your life death wont scare you. If you really believe that humans dont have a purpose you are very wrong. Why do humans have emotions, and why would we be here, whats beyond the universe, you know there is a creator, and im sure he isnt just bored. Hes a loving God

Glad bro, no offense but the "christian god" has his flaws as well. he will accept rapists, murderers, and serial killers who apologize to a priest and the entire reason they grip on the religion is because of fear of what will happen in the afterlife. wouldn't people who do great good and help others as much as they can but not believe in the christian God get into heaven as well? Well not according to the christian bible. Its funny that the egyptians had all the same stories about a man named Horus. Noahs Ark even, everything. But this was thousands of years before the christian jesus.

I'm not trying to make fun of your religion or disrespect it bro. I'm just saying why death is much more than the answer that God will take care of it all.

It seems that living is the hard part, the ups and downs, but death is easy and simple.

Logically smurf, my friends and i believe there is no reason to think about it since it's programmed in our head to panic when thinking of not existing and the unknown.

I know that feeling of thinking of that before as i have a few times in my life tossing and turning at night when i was questioning the religion i was being brainwashed growing up.

I believe in a higher power, but when you die, you go back to the same place you were before you were born, and we have no damn clue where it's at.

We think we have all the answers. But we must accept the fact that we don't have a clue and live our lives to the fullest.

If you doubt me, watch religulous.

And smurf, would you really want to live forever?
each day we meet with our friends, everyone has different friends. Or go to work, or have fun. Billions of people are doing the same thing or different things. From the history of mankind we have all questioned why we are here. But i can't see how we would know.

that's all i got guys.
no disrespect to any religion, this is only my opinion.
 
Life seems much more terrifying. The idea of death itself, of not being here, is too distant and abstract. I think there must be some kind of association, a memory, to breathe life into the idea of death. To make it concrete. There's also the related-but-distinct idea of dying horribly, of feeling pain and fear in one's last moments. I find that troublesome, but only in moments when I'm confronted with it in a story.

The most difficult thing to accept is life itself. That we grow old and die so quickly. In this sense, death is a problem, but it's the experience of running out of time that bothers me. I'm afraid I'll drift along like most of these other schmucks, without ever having really wanted or done anything. I'm afraid of the indignity of old age, of being betrayed my body. Of not being healthy and strong and fast and really alive.

Above all, I'm afraid that there is no purpose or meaning to anything except that which we create for ourselves, and that I will never find one.
 
I don't really think about it. When it's time for me to go, then I will go. Nothing I can do about it. Life's a game and it will be turned off one day. Have fun now and try to be a good person.
 
i don't really think about it. i'm not afraid of it though. i am, however, terrified of something happening to one of my kids. they've rarely even been sick, and that was only with things like an ear infection or pink eye.
 
I ain't scared of shit (said in my hick ass accent) lol

When you die it's over. You won't even know you're dead. It doesn't really matter. I'd rather enjoy myself and make the most of my time here instead of dwelling on things out of my control.
 
I ain't scared of shit (said in my hick ass accent) lol

When you die it's over. You won't even know you're dead. It doesn't really matter. I'd rather enjoy myself and make the most of my time here instead of dwelling on things out of my control.

yeah i get all that. I'm more terrified of leaving my loved ones.
 
I ain't scared of shit (said in my hick ass accent) lol

When you die it's over. You won't even know you're dead. It doesn't really matter. I'd rather enjoy myself and make the most of my time here instead of dwelling on things out of my control.
Your a fucking hick too. Fuck me I'm glad I am not the only one. LOL. Your born, you live, you die. Circle of life. Fear of death is worse than death itself.
 
yeah i get all that. I'm more terrified of leaving my loved ones.

That's the shitty thing about death. You might suffer while living but once you're dead it's done. Your loved ones typically suffer worse.
 
I'm more scared of losing limbs / eyesight / body-wide 3rd degree burns than of dying, & also long drawn out pain filled death.

I'm only in my 20s so I don't think about it thanks to that feeling of invulnerability we youths have :supercool
 
I guess it depends on how you go. I've recently taken up a few more 'dangerous' sports (ie mountain climbing, sky diving, etc) and stopped being afraid after I upped my insurance. If I make it, I get a cool ride. If I don't, then the family is taken care of. If they cut the rope, then I get a cool ride AND the family is taken care of.
 
Glad bro, no offense but the "christian god" has his flaws as well. he will accept rapists, murderers, and serial killers who apologize to a priest and the entire reason they grip on the religion is because of fear of what will happen in the afterlife. wouldn't people who do great good and help others as much as they can but not believe in the christian God get into heaven as well? Well not according to the christian bible. Its funny that the egyptians had all the same stories about a man named Horus. Noahs Ark even, everything. But this was thousands of years before the christian jesus.

I'm not trying to make fun of your religion or disrespect it bro. I'm just saying why death is much more than the answer that God will take care of it all.

It seems that living is the hard part, the ups and downs, but death is easy and simple.

Logically smurf, my friends and i believe there is no reason to think about it since it's programmed in our head to panic when thinking of not existing and the unknown.

I know that feeling of thinking of that before as i have a few times in my life tossing and turning at night when i was questioning the religion i was being brainwashed growing up.

I believe in a higher power, but when you die, you go back to the same place you were before you were born, and we have no damn clue where it's at.

We think we have all the answers. But we must accept the fact that we don't have a clue and live our lives to the fullest.

If you doubt me, watch religulous.

And smurf, would you really want to live forever?
each day we meet with our friends, everyone has different friends. Or go to work, or have fun. Billions of people are doing the same thing or different things. From the history of mankind we have all questioned why we are here. But i can't see how we would know.

that's all i got guys.
no disrespect to any religion, this is only my opinion.

You are blending denominations here. Some believe god forgives all with true repentance, some do not. Some believe god accepts non christians (my denomination does), some do not. But none of them believe both that god forgives all, but rejects non christians. Just saying.
 
Not afraid of dying, just the thought that I may not accomplish all I would have wanted during my lifetime.
 
Glad bro, no offense but the "christian god" has his flaws as well. he will accept rapists, murderers, and serial killers who apologize to a priest and the entire reason they grip on the religion is because of fear of what will happen in the afterlife. wouldn't people who do great good and help others as much as they can but not believe in the christian God get into heaven as well? Well not according to the christian bible. Its funny that the egyptians had all the same stories about a man named Horus. Noahs Ark even, everything. But this was thousands of years before the christian jesus.

How is having a loving God a flaw?

There is no sin too big that God cannot forgive it. When Jesus died on the cross, He died to pay the penalty for all of the sins of the entire world (1 John 2:2). When a person places his faith in Jesus Christ for salvation, all of his sins are forgiven. That includes past, present, and future, big or small. Jesus died to pay the penalty for all of our sins, and once they are forgiven, they are all forgiven (Colossians 1:14; Acts 10:43)


As far as your claims of Horus and Jesus. You may want to get your information straight.

:D
 
How is having a loving God a flaw?

There is no sin too big that God cannot forgive it. When Jesus died on the cross, He died to pay the penalty for all of the sins of the entire world (1 John 2:2). When a person places his faith in Jesus Christ for salvation, all of his sins are forgiven. That includes past, present, and future, big or small. Jesus died to pay the penalty for all of our sins, and once they are forgiven, they are all forgiven (Colossians 1:14; Acts 10:43)


As far as your claims of Horus and Jesus. You may want to get your information straight.

:D
Thank you for finally stepping up for your lord and savior Jesus Christ. I agree 100 % with your post.
 
I'm more scared of losing limbs / eyesight / body-wide 3rd degree burns than of dying, & also long drawn out pain filled death.

I had a cousin that died that way. He was drunk and someone set him on fire. When I saw him in the Grady burn unit every inch of him was at least 3rd degree burns. That sort of death has terrified me since. He looked like a mummy someone had unwrapped.
 
LOL!


I try to keep my religion to myself on EF, but sometimes people need corrected. :)
We have spoke on htis topic you know how I feel. ANd yes there are some here who are lost and doomed for eternity. But it is your job as a beleiver to spred the word. The Ripped Rev. told me that. lOL
 
The only reason that I don't wanna die is because my family is still around. If something were ever to happen to them, I'd welcome death. No psycho :)
 
being dead? no, i don't think so.

the actual physical act of dying? yeah, that kinda freaks me out a little.
That sums up my feelings on the matter. And I really hate the idea of becoming infirmed in my old age. The idea of rotting away in a hospital or nursing home, being dependent on others for my personal needs, for the ending of my time on this plane is deeply disturbing. Unfortunately, my job reminds me of the ending of life, day after day.

The actual nonphysical part, intriguing. Either it will be nothing, zip, nada, and as I will never be aware of it, it won't matter. Or it will be the continuation of an eternal and fascinating journey filled with a new set of challenges and tasks.
 
LOL!


I try to keep my religion to myself on EF, but sometimes people need corrected. :)

You don't actually believe the big guy in the sky and the little red fella with horns bit do you?????????:stilleto:
 
how is having a loving god a flaw?

There is no sin too big that god cannot forgive it. When jesus died on the cross, he died to pay the penalty for all of the sins of the entire world (1 john 2:2). When a person places his faith in jesus christ for salvation, all of his sins are forgiven. That includes past, present, and future, big or small. Jesus died to pay the penalty for all of our sins, and once they are forgiven, they are all forgiven (colossians 1:14; acts 10:43)


as far as your claims of horus and jesus. You may want to get your information straight.

:d

+1000000000000
 
If you doubt me, watch religulous.

Oh, it was in a movie. Must be true then! lol

How is having a loving God a flaw?

There is no sin too big that God cannot forgive it. When Jesus died on the cross, He died to pay the penalty for all of the sins of the entire world (1 John 2:2). When a person places his faith in Jesus Christ for salvation, all of his sins are forgiven. That includes past, present, and future, big or small. Jesus died to pay the penalty for all of our sins, and once they are forgiven, they are all forgiven (Colossians 1:14; Acts 10:43)


As far as your claims of Horus and Jesus. You may want to get your information straight.


Nice post Brother!
 
How is having a loving God a flaw?

There is no sin too big that God cannot forgive it. When Jesus died on the cross, He died to pay the penalty for all of the sins of the entire world (1 John 2:2). When a person places his faith in Jesus Christ for salvation, all of his sins are forgiven. That includes past, present, and future, big or small. Jesus died to pay the penalty for all of our sins, and once they are forgiven, they are all forgiven (Colossians 1:14; Acts 10:43)


As far as your claims of Horus and Jesus. You may want to get your information straight.

:D
Actually Iggy is correct.

You need to really start studying scriptures from different cultures to start seeing the similarities (the ancient Sumerian, Babylonian, and Genesis myths is just one example). Basically, the same themes come up over and over again as far back as there is recorded history.

Back to Jesus and Horus, there's even a book entitled "Christ in Egypt: The Horus-Jesus Connection" Amazon.com: Christ in Egypt: The Horus-Jesus Connection (9780979963117): D. M. Murdock, Acharya S: Books tons of people from various disciplines are able to point out the similarities including the similarities in the artistic depiction (this is the most common one, but there are others).

isis-mary.jpg


It's happened since mankind HAD spiritual practices. One of the easiest ways to get a people that you've conquered to be more docile is to make their most important cultural references (in ancient times gods, ritual and spiritual practices), palatable. Take some of their beliefs, mix them with your beliefs, voila, people start praying to your gods during their holidays.

The sheer volume of Celtic pagan practices that are observed throughout the Christian calendar holidays is a blatent (and hilarious) example of just such a thing.
 
Actually Iggy is correct.

You need to really start studying scriptures from different cultures to start seeing the similarities (the ancient Sumerian, Babylonian, and Genesis myths is just one example). Basically, the same themes come up over and over again as far back as there is recorded history.

Back to Jesus and Horus, there's even a book entitled "Christ in Egypt: The Horus-Jesus Connection" Amazon.com: Christ in Egypt: The Horus-Jesus Connection (9780979963117): D. M. Murdock, Acharya S: Books tons of people from various disciplines are able to point out the similarities including the similarities in the artistic depiction (this is the most common one, but there are others).

isis-mary.jpg


It's happened since mankind HAD spiritual practices. One of the easiest ways to get a people that you've conquered to be more docile is to make their most important cultural references (in ancient times gods, ritual and spiritual practices), palatable. Take some of their beliefs, mix them with your beliefs, voila, people start praying to your gods during their holidays.

The sheer volume of Celtic pagan practices that are observed throughout the Christian calendar holidays is a blatent (and hilarious) example of just such a thing.



Acharya S's book "The Christ Conspiracy" only provides evidentiarly footnotes for only five of the claims, and those footnotes frequently disagree with her own claims.

1.) Horus' mother was not a virgin
2.) Was born in a swamp, not a cave/manger
3.) Horus was never baptized
4.) Horus never walked on water
5.) Horus was never crucified

The list goes on and on.
 
Acharya S's book "The Christ Conspiracy" only provides evidentiarly footnotes for only five of the claims, and those footnotes frequently disagree with her own claims.

1.) Horus' mother was not a virgin
2.) Was born in a swamp, not a cave/manger
3.) Horus was never baptized
4.) Horus never walked on water
5.) Horus was never crucified

The list goes on and on.


here is actually a more detailed write up I found.

Here are the claims of parallels between Jesus and Horus, with my responses:

1) Horus was born of the virgin Isis-Meri on December 25th in a cave/manger with his birth being announced by a star in the East and attended by three wise men.

Let’s take this one apart and deal with each separate issue:

Horus’ mother was not a virgin. She was married to Osiris, and there is no reason to suppose she was abstinent after marriage. Horus was, per the story, miraculously conceived. Seth had killed and dismembered Osiris, then Isis put her husband's dead body back together and had intercourse with it. In some versions, she used a hand-made phallus since she wasn't able to find that part of her husband. So while it was a miraculous conception, it was not a virgin birth.

Horus was given three different birthdates in mythology, one of which does correspond to December 25th. But since Jesus wasn't, per the evidence, born on 12/25, this isn't a parallel.

"Meri" (technically "Mr-ee") is the egyptian word for "beloved" and was apparently applied to Isis prior to Jesus' time, as a title, not as part of her name. But since there were probably thousands of women between Horus' time and Jesus' with a name or title that was a variation on "Mary", there's no real reason to suppose that Jesus' mother was named after Isis in particular. Even if, hypothetically, the Gospel authors themselves fabricated Jesus' mother and decided to name her "Mary", it's far more likely that they named her after other women from around their time named "Mary" than it is that they named her after "Isis-Meri"

Horus was born in a swamp, not a cave/manger. Acharya's footnotes for this point only make the claim that Jesus was born in a cave, and say nothing about Horus being born in one.

Horus' birth was not announced by a star in the east

There were no “three wise men” at Horus’ birth, or at Jesus’ for that matter (the Bible never gives the number of wise men, and they showed up at Jesus’ home, not at the manger, probably when Jesus was a year or two old).

Acharya's source for the last two claims appears to be Massey, who says "the Star in the East that arose to announce the birth of the babe (Jesus) was Orion, which is therefore called the star of Horus. That was once the star of the three kings; for the 'three kings' is still a name of three stars in Orion's belt . . . " Massey's apparently getting mixed up, and then the critics are misinterpreting it. Orion is not a star, but a constellation, of which there are three stars in a row making up the belt of Orion. However, there is no evidence that these three stars were called the "Three Kings" prior to Jesus' time, nor even prior to the 19th century, for that matter.

And even if there is a specific star called 'the star of Horus', there's no legend stating that it announced Horus' birth (as the critics are claiming) or that the three stars in Orion's belt attended Horus' birth in any way.

2) His earthly father was named "Seb" ("Joseph").

First of all, there is no parallel between the Egyptian name “Seb” and the Hebrew name “Joseph”, other than the fact that they’re common names. Also, Seb was Osiris’ father, not Horus’.

3) He was of royal descent.

This one’s true! But it's not really a comparison to Jesus. When followers speak of Jesus being of 'royal descent', they usually mean His being a descendent of King David, an earthly king. Horus was, according to the myth, descended from heavenly royalty (as Jesus was), being the son of the main god.

4) At age 12, he was a child teacher in the Temple, and at 30, he was baptized, having disappeared for 18 years.

He never taught in any temple and was never baptized. Also, Jesus didn't 'disappear' in the years between His teaching in the temple and baptism. He worked humbly as a carpenter.

5) Horus was baptized in the river Eridanus or Iarutana (Jordan) by "Anup the Baptizer" ("John the Baptist"), who was decapitated.

Again, Horus was never baptized. There is no “Anup the Baptizer” in the story.

6) He had 12 disciples, two of whom were his "witnesses" and were named "Anup" and "Aan" (the two "Johns").

Horus had four disciples (called ‘Heru-Shemsu’). There’s another reference to sixteen followers, and a group of followers called ‘mesnui’ (blacksmiths) who join Horus in battle, but are never numbered. But there’s no reference to twelve followers or any of them being named “Anup” or “Aan”.

7) He performed miracles, exorcised demons and raised El-Azarus ("El-Osiris"), from the dead.

He did perform miracles, but he never exorcised demons or raised his father from the dead. Also, Osiris is never referred to as ‘El-Azarus’ or ‘El-Osiris’ (clearly an attempt to make his name more closely resemble the Bible’s “Lazarus”).

8) Horus walked on water.

No, he did not.

9) His personal epithet was "Iusa," the "ever-becoming son" of "Ptah," the "Father." He was thus called "Holy Child."

Horus was never referred to as “Iusa” (nor was anyone in Egyptian history - the word does not exist) or “Holy Child”.

10) He delivered a "Sermon on the Mount" and his followers recounted the "Sayings of Iusa."

Horus never delivered such a sermon, and, as pointed out above, he was never referred to as “Iusa”.

11) Horus was transfigured on the Mount.

No, he was not.

12) He was crucified between two thieves, buried for three days in a tomb, and resurrected.

Horus was never crucified. There’s an unofficial story in which he dies and is cast in pieces into the water, then later fished out by a crocodile at Isis’ request. This unofficial story is the only one in which he dies at all.

13) He was also the "Way, the Truth, the Light," "Messiah," "God’s Anointed Son," the "Son of Man," the "Good Shepherd," the "Lamb of God," the "Word made flesh," the "Word of Truth," etc.

The only titles Horus is given are “Great God”, “Chief of the Powers”, “Master of Heaven”, and “Avenger of His Father”. None of the above titles are in any Egyptian mythology.

14) He was "the Fisher" and was associated with the Fish ("Ichthys"), Lamb and Lion.

He was never referred to as “the fisher”, and there are no lamb or lion in any of the stories. Acharya S.'s footnotes on this claim only show an association with fish (which is that Horus WAS a fish, unlike Jesus), with no evidence of his being called 'the fisher' or having any association with a lamb or lion.

15) He came to fulfill the Law.

There was no “law” he was supposed to fulfill.

16) Horus was called "the KRST," or "Anointed One."

He was never referred to by either of these titles. "Krst", in Egyptian, means "burial", by the way. It wasn't a title.

17) Like Jesus, "Horus was supposed to reign one thousand years."

No mention of this in Egyptian mythology.
 
Acharya S's book "The Christ Conspiracy" only provides evidentiarly footnotes for only five of the claims, and those footnotes frequently disagree with her own claims.on.
Picking nits is just that. The similarities are there and it makes sense from a logical perspective. I haven't started Egyptian studies, that's next year's work, but off the top of my head from a few workshops I've attended this much I can respond to:

1.) Horus' mother was not a virgin
1a) Osiris was murdered by his brother and cut into pieces. Isis found everything but the last, and most important piece. She sculpted a phallus out of gold and conceived Horus. While she may or may not be virgin, it's certainly miraculous.

2.) Was born in a swamp, not a cave/manger
2a) He was born in a swamp because Isis was fleeing from Set, who would have slaughtered Isis and Osiris' offspring. Sound like another family fleeing a murderous enemy?

I actually don't have any problem with Christ, I think his message (rather, what little that has survived unbastardized), was fine. I find the whole dogmatic religion that has evolved out of human avarice and desire to control the masses through fear to be the real problem, as it is the problem with most religions, Christianity certainly is not the only one guilty, it's just the most popular one.
 
not scared of death ..scared of serve pain/suffering or getting tortured ..rather be dead fast then go threw alot of those 3
 
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Picking nits is just that. The similarities are there and it makes sense from a logical perspective. I haven't started Egyptian studies, that's next year's work, but off the top of my head from a few workshops I've attended this much I can respond to:

1.) Horus' mother was not a virgin
1a) Osiris was murdered by his brother and cut into pieces. Isis found everything but the last, and most important piece. She sculpted a phallus out of gold and conceived Horus. While she may or may not be virgin, it's certainly miraculous.

2.) Was born in a swamp, not a cave/manger
2a) He was born in a swamp because Isis was fleeing from Set, who would have slaughtered Isis and Osiris' offspring. Sound like another family fleeing a murderous enemy?

I actually don't have any problem with Christ, I think his message (rather, what little that has survived unbastardized), was fine. I find the whole dogmatic religion that has evolved out of human avarice and desire to control the masses through fear to be the real problem, as it is the problem with most religions, Christianity certainly is not the only one guilty, it's just the most popular one.
WTF a gold dildo???
 
I'm not afraid of death. What's the worst that could happen?! You are dead! I'm more afraid of losing my mind or a limb. The thought of having someone take care of me, scares the shit out of me.
 
WTF a gold dildo???
Not quite, a dildo doesn't get you pregnant :D Women have been using dildoes since before written language. Archeologists have found objects they are willing to label as dildoes dating to over 30,000 years ago made from stone.

But back to Isis and Osiris, we're talking myth and magic here. The myth is enormously symbolic, symbology from the culture, from the spirituality and not just in the loss of the phallus, but in the reforming of it, what it was formed of, to the conception of the infant and the eventual battle of Horus, the son, against his uncle Set.
 
I'm not scared of death, but I do worry as to whether death will be a suffering occasion or a quick flick of a light switch to the other side.

however I die, I do not want to sufer physically. that would suck sooo bad. My uncle died from brain cancer, and it was horrible to see him suffer. I do not want that.
 
Lots to read, I skipped a bunch, lol.

For me, I find it hard to believe in an afterlife. I really try to believe and I hope there is, but when I really think about death I think.. Fuck, there will be no more me ever again. Lol.

As far as actually dieing, I think anyones last moments would be extremely peaceful. You know your facing in the inevitable, there is absolutly nothing to worry about, just sit back and wait.
As weird as it sounds the most peaceful I've ever been is in near death experiences (After a motorcycle accident laid up in the hospital being told not to move and having NO idea whats going on).
 
Not scared of death, I really consider it a final resting since I believe there is nothing after it..... only thing sometimes worries me is that if there is a heaven/hell God/Satan.... which side would I end up? I'm no angel but I aint that bad :P
 
Some days yes, some no. Mostly I just wish I had never existed in the first place.
 
I just want to be a very attractive corpse

Psh.
I hope I got out in a fuckin Blaze. Something spectacular, gun fire, bombs going off, high speed car or motorcycle action.. My body should be in about 32 places.
I hope Quinten Tarantino orchestrates my death.
 
I'm really not worried about it. We're all gonna die, no point to dwell on it. I'm reserved to the fact I will die young. It's not a question of if, but when. I'd rather be happy in the now than waste my time crying about when.
 
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