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Killjoy.....

I know I'm alone on my positive opinion of 7-Keto, but I've had successful fat loss results. The studies have shown that you need to take between 100-200 mg daily for 30 days to begin seeing substantial results. Most 7-Keto products only contain 25-50 mg per serving, so it's a costly nutrient. Which is why I switched to Lean System 7 instead of 7-Keto alone, I get more value for my dollar.

You can see it on medline if you use it's chemical name: 3-acetyl-7-oxo-dehydroepiandrosterone

It may be a metabolite of DHEA, but it has ZERO hormonal properties & appears safe... It's certainly an effective option for those who can't take or don't like stimulants.

Hope that helps bro!
 
40butpumpin said:


Huh??? It definitely will help and I have personel experience which unequivocably shows it will. And so will Magnesium. Believe me the last med you want to be on is a heart rhythm med. Stay far, far away from those bro. Stick with the two I told you about as well as avoiding stimulants and you'll do just fine. 7-Keto is a form of DHEA that supposedly will not convert to estrogen. Depending on your age and your own levels it could improve your health a lot. Typically it isn't necessary for people under 40 years of age.

Okay 40butpumpin it may have worked for you. However almost ALL clinical studies have shown that CoQ10 may help older individuals with heart disease (ie improve heart health), but younger healthy individuals didn't benefit at all from CoQ10 supplementation.

Now it could work for our guy but...and it could take a few weeks for the CoQ10 to build up in his system and take effect.

I like CoQ10 and tried using it as a endurance supplement, but have cut it back to just an antioxidant. It was too expensive and I couldn't tell if it helped.

I don't think he should mess around-I thinkBigBoy23 should seek medical attention. Heart issues related to too many stimulants are dicey.

FHG
 
fhg43 said:


Okay 40butpumpin it may have worked for you. However almost ALL clinical studies have shown that CoQ10 may help older individuals with heart disease (ie improve heart health), but younger healthy individuals didn't benefit at all from CoQ10 supplementation.

Now it could work for our guy but...and it could take a few weeks for the CoQ10 to build up in his system and take effect.

I like CoQ10 and tried using it as a endurance supplement, but have cut it back to just an antioxidant. It was too expensive and I couldn't tell if it helped.

I don't think he should mess around-I thinkBigBoy23 should seek medical attention. Heart issues related to too many stimulants are dicey.

FHG

I hear what you're saying bro and I agree he should go to a doc, however, I'm assuming he's a young guy (23?) and that means that unless he has some really serious issue with his heart -- which odds are couldn't have come from "a few weeks" of xenidrine -- any good doc would not put him on a rhythm med. There are heart rhythm meds that have been known to cause sudden death. Go figure, but all too true. I'm sorry, I can't agree with CoQ10 not helping younger individuals. Not only have I not come across this in any literature I've been reading, I myself have been taking it with excellent results for quite a while and I'm not that old. Please send me some of the clinical studies if you have access, I'm definitely interested. Magnesium and CoQ10 is your best bet once a doc gives you a look and ruled out anything serious.
 
Re: Killjoy.....

TYPE A said:
...but it has ZERO hormonal properties...

This is not true, it definitely has hormonal properties. Did you read this somewhere? I'd like to know where if you did.
 
I also had the same problem with my ECA. SOmetimes it would feel like i was choking and my heart wold skip like every 6th beat. im better now though
 
40butpumpin, glad you asked....

40butpumpin said:


This is not true, it definitely has hormonal properties. Did you read this somewhere? I'd like to know where if you did.

I read this off of medline and I also found it to be substantiated in the following studies:

Kalman, D.S., et al., "A Randomized,
Double-Blind, Placebo Controlled Study of 3-Acetyl-7-Oxo-Dehydroepiandrosterone in Healthy Overweight Adults," Curr Ther Res 61.7 (2000) : 435-42.

Colker, C., et al., "Double-Blind, Placebo-Controlled, Randomized Clinical Trail Evaluating the Effects of Exercise Plus 3-Acetyl-7-Oxo-Dehydroepiandrosterone on Body Composition and the Endocrine System in Overweight Adults," J Exer Physiol Online 2.4 (1999).

I invite you to prove these false with your information or with any studies that prove even the slightest sign of hormonal properties.
Good luck!
 
While I'm not out to do this just to prove you wrong, I am very interested so I'm going to try to find something either way and post it. Thanks for the info.
 
40butpumping....

Please let us know if you find anything that could be of significance regarding 7-keto in general. There isn't a lot of info availiable and I'm suprised that not too many members here know what it is. I'm positive we'd see it in more products if it were cheaper.

Keep us posted, thanks!
 
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