Guys I'm about ready to jack it in -no gains but fat and depression

[Arnold'sApprentice]

I started lifting late, i was 28 when i first joined a gym and lifted. In two years and 1,000$ 's on powders and supps my arms are still a pathetic 14.5 inches.

I have overtrained i'm sure. I bought Arnie's cyclopedia and went straight into the advanced double split routine (six days a week ...crazy) i got smaller and suffered all kinds of side effects -depression,lack of appetite .feelings of worthlessness. I then tried low volume read too many internet articles and kept changing everything....adding volume here ...another workout day there. As i became increasingly desperate i tried new,more outlandish things ...GVT and Max -Ot in the same week etc...

I know changing everything all the time will get you nowhere at all but it seems that everytime i start a new routine i go hardcore and everything -for example I am ALWAYS sore- but pretty soon i get this depressed,detached from reality feeling and then the colds and flus come so i have to take a week off and start something new ...can this be overtraining I get like this even on very low volume.

i have tried HIT ,GVT/MAXOT/HIGH VOLUME/HIGH Frequency bodyparts 3 times a week /low frequency each bodypart every 7-10 days but have made MINIMAL gains...guys in the gym have noticed i make no gains and some have helped --i even trained with a few but to no avail.

im pathetically weak-can't even do a dead hang pullup after TWO YEARS.

I feel like jacking it in and staying a pencil neck loser - iv'e put on a lot of fat too from bulking -always 2grams protein per lb of bodyweight

Can anyone help me? I know i look like a dumb newbie but i swear i rip myself apart...my muscles are always screaming and sore for days...so i know my intensity is ok. it just seems that when things are going ok i get sick and have to start over.

someone told me i started too late and have no genes for this sport..but im not an ecto,far from it...i have bigish hips and gain fat way too easy.


some brother help me out please or im throwing the towel in ....i get so depressed with my situation in life...my great love left me and ive never really recovered..once she left lifting is all i have and it's being harsh to me.

peace

 

[LifterCA]

don't give in! that's the cure. I have gone through the same thing as you. For 4 years I hadn't seen any results till I hit 20 this year. Then I blew up for some reason. My gains have been phenominal. I am 5-10ish, 168 lbs and to me strong for my size. But, I did too lose someone earliar this year and I was very sad for awhile, but the gym did get me through it. I have no clue what you lift like, your exercise routine, stretching? All I can say as of now, is do not give in. My arms are only 15.5, but they are proportional to my body. Maybe they are for you. But, like everyone would say. Keep it simple, do 2-3 exercies with 9-11 sets. That's it, nthing special, has worked for me. Also another thing is bands. My god these hurt and they blow your arms up. I have grown .5 of an inch in 1 month. I love em. But keep up the good work, it's hard, but it pays off.

 

[gonelifting]

Post your workout and someone will chime in and try to help. It`s easier if they know what you are doing.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Right, post up your routine and diet. It sounds like you are overtraining, changing routines too often, and your diet if off.

 

[Lord_Suston]

a few question
1) do you squat?
2) do you deadlift
3)do you bench?
4) do you overhead press?
5)do you do barbell rows?

if yes then all five I can't help you. But make sure you consider your technique first and really think about if you did any rep right. Ie did you go far enough down, did you bounce the weight, did you have perfect form?

 

[Ogrelleh]

I wish my arms were 14.5"....

 

[onerepmaximum]

Try to work out with someone who knows what's going on. Maybe hire a personal trainer if you can. You will get a ton of great advice from these boards, but you may need someone to help get you started.

 

[Warpath]

From your depression it sounds like you might have a hormonal imbalance, you should be gaining at least some strength and size. You might want to go get your blood drawn and get your hormone levels taken, including t3/t4, cortisol and testosterone.

 

[JOKER47]

It's already been said, but please post up your diet, current routine and goals. We can't help until we know something about you.

Oh yeah, 28 is NOT to late. Just trust me on this one....



Joker

 

[Arnold'sApprentice]

thanks for the replies guys i know you guys know your shit and i appreciate it.

my current routine (it changes all the time) is:

Mon:Chest -12 sets no isolation just benching and dipping

Tues: Back -12 sets ..assisted pullup machine,lat pulldown,cablerows

thurs: Shoulders +legs - 10 sets for shoulders MP and UR ..leg press and curls + calf raises.

fri -arms -10 sets for bis 10 sets for tri's -skullcrushers,bb curls ,CGBP etc..

my gym sucks ...deadlifts arent allowed (considered too dangerous and antisocial...lol) i asked the PT guy about his prices-he's expensive and uses a lot of machines and wants me to hit each bodypart x3 a week.

I have Cruciate ligament damage and will never be able to perform squats -yes that sucks cos they release crazy GH


my diet is 3,000 -4,000 cals ...at least two hundred grams protein..about 400 grams carbs...pw shake with whey and dextrose

guys the biggest problem is the depressed,detatched feeling i keep getting after a few weeks of hardcore workouts...i feel tired but can never sleep and i get a kind of 'brain fog' and feel nervous
Do any of you get this?