Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I have decided to do my very first cycle in around a month. I am going to use deca and sust. Currently 5'7" 160lbs bf% is under 10 turning 21 pretty soon. By then I hope to be atleast 165. The cycle I am planning is stacking deca and sust. I haven't decided on exact amount probably around 200mg of each per week. Is there anything else i should add. Also still don't know read alot but not sure which anti-e should i keep on hand just in case. I also plan on getting some milk thistle and plenty of cranberry juice during the cycle for the liver and kidneys.
first cycle in around a month
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you've done some reading, but you may wanna do a little bit more. You'll probably want to bump the deca and sust up a little. The sust usually comes in 250mg amps so youll wanna inject in increments of 250. I would use 500mg/wk of sust if I were you. The deca, I would do atleast 300mg. These are just my opinions but I think your gains would be much better.
Chris
Chris
A lot of places i looked at said that 500 was a bit much for a first cycle and that i should be able to get decent results using around 250. I agree that 200 is low i actually ment to type in 250. But if you guys recommend me doing 500 and 300 ill do it. Any other opinions? Should i add anything else or do this complement each other well enough for a first cycle? should i keep clomid on hand?
chanmanfoo
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no need to take both deca and sust for your first cycle. you weigh 160, i advise 300/400 mg sust a week split up in two injections(mon 150mg thur 150mg) , just pull your dose into the rig and pull the remainder into another one. keep some nolva on hand and do a search on clomid and make your own decision on that one. i cant imagine why anyone would think at 160lbs you would need 800mg of gear a week for your first cycle.
foo
foo
My stats are very similar to yours and I started a test only cycle at 300 mg a week three weeks ago. I'm up about twelve pounds so far and my strength is through the roof. Don't get me wrong, its all water and I look like a balloon. But I'd say just judging from that it is more than enough gear for me. So along with everyone else I would say drop the deca.
I got no pic description my arms and shoulders get pretty big chest just refuses to grow. Pretty lean. Thats about all i can think of. As for d-bol i want to avoid it because its very bad for the liver and from what i understand it prone to side effects more than a bunch of the others.
Dial tone i didn't mean i want to get a whole cycle done in a month. I ment I am going to start it around the begining of april.
My diet is pretty good drinking 3 shakes a day getting lots of protein getting decent amount of carbs.
Any reason for dropping the deca, just think its going to be alot for a first cycle?
Dial tone i didn't mean i want to get a whole cycle done in a month. I ment I am going to start it around the begining of april.
My diet is pretty good drinking 3 shakes a day getting lots of protein getting decent amount of carbs.
Any reason for dropping the deca, just think its going to be alot for a first cycle?
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Stryker1992
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I agree with oak, you do not need to inj for your first cycle but I am a favorite of deca/sust combo. You might want to go with thd for 4 weeks to get things started. This is your first cycle, you should have awesome gains, the best ever. No one ever gets their first back Do it right, it could be amazing!
After you are done run a mild dose of clomid for about 21 days starting 2 weeks after your last inj.
BTW: I am an advocate of moderate doses and it has worked really well for me and I retain far more of my gains than a lot of guys here so stick with your dosage plan imo!
After you are done run a mild dose of clomid for about 21 days starting 2 weeks after your last inj.
BTW: I am an advocate of moderate doses and it has worked really well for me and I retain far more of my gains than a lot of guys here so stick with your dosage plan imo!
little chris
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You see to have dona alittle homework and 21 is a decent age ( I waited till 25 but if you have a good fundation to build on let me recommend a safe cycle that will give you good results with little or no side effects. Forget Sust its overrated and hurts like a bitch to inject, instead take 250 MG of testoviron depot by schering once a week for 8 weeks and add some anavar for those 8 weeks along with it. The VAR will solidify your gains and make you stronger and cut up. Var is expensive by 9 outta 10 people in here swear by it. Make sure you get nolv and clomid too.
Good Luck!
Good Luck!
d-bol sounds very very tempting it was initially going to be part of my cycle but i have fears of it. I don't know if am prone to gyno yet since it my first cycle and the risk is pretty have with d-bol if your prone. Thats mainly why i thought of avoiding it. But i may reconsider with all you guys promoting it.
THD?
THD?
theoak01
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thats why you keep the nolva on hand,I am prone to it aswell,my first cycle was omna and dbol and I got a little leakage but nolva cleared it up quick.
Sust hurting is all in the mind,buy good quality stuff and your fine.
another trick is taking a hot bath after and massaging the spot and your fine,hell I shot sust in my bi's with no pain at all
good luck with your cycle
Sust hurting is all in the mind,buy good quality stuff and your fine.
another trick is taking a hot bath after and massaging the spot and your fine,hell I shot sust in my bi's with no pain at all
good luck with your cycle
ok so right now im debating between mainly sust 250mg and dbol 30mg per day for 6 or 8 and sust for 8 or 12.
or sust+deca 250 each together for about 8 weeks or maybe 12.
don't mind switching sust for testoviron just my source doesn't have it.
whats THD? i can't remember what is was i remember seeing it somewhere did a search but nothing much came up.
I am going to keep nolva on hand, followed by clomid after around 2 weeks after last inject .
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or sust+deca 250 each together for about 8 weeks or maybe 12.
don't mind switching sust for testoviron just my source doesn't have it.
whats THD? i can't remember what is was i remember seeing it somewhere did a search but nothing much came up.
I am going to keep nolva on hand, followed by clomid after around 2 weeks after last inject .
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Once you push that plunger into your skin, you can say goodbye to knowing what your natural potential might have been. And at your age and weight, there's so much more that can be acheived. A shame.
Ok here is what I am thinking now. Getting ready to start ordering soon so please let me know which of these cycles to go with. Eq stays or goes? From what I understand it will harden up the muscles and make the gains last longer.
cycle#1
sust 250mg weeks 1-8
deca 200mg weeks 1-8
eq 200mg 8-10
the sust i will split in to 2 injects per week. Should I split the deca up to 2 and inject both the same night.
followed by clomid for 2 weeks
nolva on hand
cycle#2
sust 250mg weeks 1-8
dbol 20mg per day weeks 1-4
eq 200mg 8-10
followed by clomid for 2 weeks
nolva on hand
Ohh btw
EAT EAT EAT EAT! and don't forget to EAT!!!
cycle#1
sust 250mg weeks 1-8
deca 200mg weeks 1-8
eq 200mg 8-10
the sust i will split in to 2 injects per week. Should I split the deca up to 2 and inject both the same night.
followed by clomid for 2 weeks
nolva on hand
cycle#2
sust 250mg weeks 1-8
dbol 20mg per day weeks 1-4
eq 200mg 8-10
followed by clomid for 2 weeks
nolva on hand
Ohh btw
EAT EAT EAT EAT! and don't forget to EAT!!!
