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txbondsman
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^^^ now tell him how you stay off. Quiting is easy, but the hard part is to stop starting.
Day two of sobriety
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^^^ now tell him how you stay off. Quiting is easy, but the hard part is to stop starting.
He sounds like he has alot going for him with his new job, daughter etc etc
The hard part is when you think you are in the clear, and it's "ok" to just have one night of fun, or one drink.
Trust me, it's not worth it
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hog#head#cheese
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If there is ANYTHING you do today(besides not pick up)I would listen to TXBONDSMAN and just try to understand What it is you NEED to do Today and Only today.I really believe you are not ready to surrender just yet.But I hope when you do its not when they are dropping your casket in the ground or the judge is handing you a life sentence.Am I harsh?I wish someone would have beat my ass to show me how stupid i was.
Delinquent
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Sorry man I should have known that would be taken a little too literally. This is for me. This is so I can go back to the gym. This is so I can keep this job. So we can keep this house. So I can finally be fairly normal.
I'm sorry you took some of the stuff so literally I should have been more precise in my explanation. Of course I know things won't ever be as fun as when using. That's why I said, I'm hopeful that I will be able to eventually stop comparing life's events with using as that seems to me to be the final hurdle cross before becoming free.
I finally talked to the lady from the treatment center. The first time she told me that I had to be off xanax, ok I stopped for 1.5 weeks up until the last two days. She then said that since I had taken some, I would fail the drug screen and due to the possible dependence issue of benzos and the contraindications with suboxone are severe (I knew all this but just let her keep talking) I then told her I went 1.5 weeks without one and felt no ill effects yet you think I'm addicted after taking some for 2 days? I told her the reason for the xanax was to sleep. But they wouldn't buy that since who trusts a junkie right?
So they want to put me into a 3 day inpatient for observation to make sure I don't have a seizure from benzo withdrawal since they still wouldn't believe me.
I told her" look =, isn't there a place where I can just get evaluated, given a maintenane dose of suboxone and see the doc a couple times a week?" Sure there are and you're gonna pay for it for which I can't do.
We just located 30 more suboxone so if we can keep stockpiling them, we'll be fine.
The lady said that only 3% of people who do not seek help don't relapse. We'll be in that 3%
But then it all stems back to how much can you believe a person on the internet? All I can say is that I will be 100% truthful either way because that's me. I don't lie and you can even ask my wife. There have been times she wanted me to lie for her and I said no. I don't lie. Honesty is really big with me
Delinquent
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Reason that it doesn't apply to us as much is because we don't have any friends. That live anywhere near anyways. The last person who was our friend but also the person we found the Dr for the scripts is completely out of our lives. I cut off communication with him months ago after a lot of shit went down which is when I bought that gun I talked about on here. She kept in touch mainly for free drugs plus she would occassionally go down with him to the dr's for the script. We wouldn't have to pay a thing because the roxy's were the moneymakers. You can get methadone for $5 and we were getting it for $1-2 so that in it of itself was the problem. On demand access.
Last week, my wife and him finally had a falling out over money for methadone that he "lost". He has no idea where we live either. The only other person who we know where to get some wouldn't give us any because he thinks we're already clean. He's a recovering addict so he would NEVER get some for us.
Other than that, I would have to actually solicit strangers for it. Trust me, in our quest to find more methadone to keep tapering down, we found that we knew not a single person who knew how to get it. It wasn't like I partied with a bunch of friends. It was me, my wife, and our previous friend.
This I think is yet another positive step toward freedom
cool bro
that IS good
connections are not good to have when quitting drugs
narcotics are tough to get nowadays because they are cracking down on doctors
that's why I turned to free base
I still get calls every couple of weeks from two guys who were raking in $1000-1500 weekly from me combined
stay strong bro
take lots of advil or motrin
3-4 200 mgs 4 times daily w/food (200lb person)
It's not that bad
You went to school
got a job now
I envy you
life is good
the hardest part is already over(physicall)
you are almost three days in!
that IS good
connections are not good to have when quitting drugs
narcotics are tough to get nowadays because they are cracking down on doctors
that's why I turned to free base
I still get calls every couple of weeks from two guys who were raking in $1000-1500 weekly from me combined
stay strong bro
take lots of advil or motrin
3-4 200 mgs 4 times daily w/food (200lb person)
It's not that bad
You went to school
got a job now
I envy you
life is good
the hardest part is already over(physicall)
you are almost three days in!
Delinquent
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Holy shit I took a quarter suboxone at 6:30 and I actually feel normal! For the first couple hours, I still had the muscle cramps but now nothing. A little headache but I'm not sure if that's related or not. It turned out that the 30 suboxone we were gonna get was a misunderstanding and the guy thought we wanted xanax for some ungodly reason so I'm left with 10 quarters and my wife is left with 9 quarters because she took a half instead of a quarter.
My wife I think is gonna have the worst of it now. She didn't even want to talk about the pain before we took the suboxone. I kept trying to give her pep talks saying things like we NEED to do this, we are out of options, there's no way out except freedom, etc. She said stop because it was making her feel worse. I keep trying to give her suggestions on things to do to take her mind off of it but none of them work for her.
I just finished talking to my friends wife who's a psychologist for over an hour and she agrees that my wife is gonna have it worse simply because of the longer period of addiction. Worse case scenario is that our friends could come up here and help with our daughter while I'm at work next week but I'm hopeful that she'll feel as good as I do on just a quarter so we can stretch the few suboxone that we have for as long as possible. Plus it gives us that much more time to find more.
Like I've been saying, I really don't think I'm at the level of most addicts. If you would have asked me this last week, I would have answered differently but I really do think that as long as we have the suboxone, we'll be fine. It's getting the expensive ass medication and the process it involves that's the bitch. I don't have thousands of dollars for the program. Hell I've heard depending on the number needed, the cost can be as high as $700 per month. That's something that isn't possible and finding them on the street is almost just as impossible. I think the reason why it's so hard around here is that the Dr I used to go to got busted after an 8 month long investigation. As soon as he was arrested, there were about 5 robberies of pharmacies in the next couple weeks. That's how much shit this Dr was giving out. He would have the script pads already filled out so all he had to do was put your name is. He was reckless and stupid to think he wouldn't get caught.
Anyways, I'm hoping I can kick this within the timeframe that we have given the limited amount of suboxone. It's so ironic that they charge so much for people to help break free of such slavery. You would think that they would want to give this stuff out since it's so effective. But that's not good business and that's what it's all about unfortunately.
My wife I think is gonna have the worst of it now. She didn't even want to talk about the pain before we took the suboxone. I kept trying to give her pep talks saying things like we NEED to do this, we are out of options, there's no way out except freedom, etc. She said stop because it was making her feel worse. I keep trying to give her suggestions on things to do to take her mind off of it but none of them work for her.
I just finished talking to my friends wife who's a psychologist for over an hour and she agrees that my wife is gonna have it worse simply because of the longer period of addiction. Worse case scenario is that our friends could come up here and help with our daughter while I'm at work next week but I'm hopeful that she'll feel as good as I do on just a quarter so we can stretch the few suboxone that we have for as long as possible. Plus it gives us that much more time to find more.
Like I've been saying, I really don't think I'm at the level of most addicts. If you would have asked me this last week, I would have answered differently but I really do think that as long as we have the suboxone, we'll be fine. It's getting the expensive ass medication and the process it involves that's the bitch. I don't have thousands of dollars for the program. Hell I've heard depending on the number needed, the cost can be as high as $700 per month. That's something that isn't possible and finding them on the street is almost just as impossible. I think the reason why it's so hard around here is that the Dr I used to go to got busted after an 8 month long investigation. As soon as he was arrested, there were about 5 robberies of pharmacies in the next couple weeks. That's how much shit this Dr was giving out. He would have the script pads already filled out so all he had to do was put your name is. He was reckless and stupid to think he wouldn't get caught.
Anyways, I'm hoping I can kick this within the timeframe that we have given the limited amount of suboxone. It's so ironic that they charge so much for people to help break free of such slavery. You would think that they would want to give this stuff out since it's so effective. But that's not good business and that's what it's all about unfortunately.
believe it or not in my and most experience
the less suboxone you take, the better you feel
Not saying don't take any, this is good you have some
let's say you have three left, cut it into 1/4s that will leave you with 12 doses
try top take 1/4 every 6 hours while you are awake
Please keep me updated
i want to help
the less suboxone you take, the better you feel
Not saying don't take any, this is good you have some
let's say you have three left, cut it into 1/4s that will leave you with 12 doses
try top take 1/4 every 6 hours while you are awake
Please keep me updated
i want to help
BTW Methadone f-d me up too
alot of peeps think it has no rec. value
how the f? did you take 100mgs of done' in a day
I take 30mgs and I'd scratch my face off
i always was careful with methadone
that's the worst drug to be addicted too
gets into your bones and fat cells and it's a long ass withdrawel period
alot of peeps think it has no rec. value
how the f? did you take 100mgs of done' in a day
I take 30mgs and I'd scratch my face off
i always was careful with methadone
that's the worst drug to be addicted too
gets into your bones and fat cells and it's a long ass withdrawel period
