Can I Say Something? Again?

[Nelson Montana]

I've been saying this for years and I know I'll be saying it for years to come. But maybe A gentle reminder every now and then will help.

Fast acting ester DO NOT grow muscle faster than long acting esters.

That's like saying that eating faster will make you run faster.

It just doesn't work that way.

 

[needtogetaas]

O I don't know I think some some of my products like beastdrol or deiselbolan can pack on 20lb of muscle long before any amount of primo/deca could. I may have to disagree with you on this one bro. I have seen hundreds if not thousands of people use some of my products and or other orals and add upwards of 20lb or more in 4 weeks time.

Not once have I ever seen anyone add that much in that little time using primo or deca or even test-e for that matter. Maybe a few people with the test-e but its not common.

 

[Nelson Montana]

O I don't know I think some some of my products like beastdrol or deiselbolan can pack on 20lb of muscle long before any amount of primo/deca could. I may have to disagree with you on this one bro. I have seen hundreds if not thousands of people use some of my products and or other orals and add upwards of 20lb or more in 4 weeks time.

Not once have I ever seen anyone add that much in that little time using primo or deca or even test-e for that matter. Maybe a few people with the test-e but its not common.

I'd say that adding an oral like Beastdrol will show results faster, but after 8 weeks, the end result will be the same. I think Primo doesn't show results for a while because the gains are so clean.

I still have to try Deiselbolan.

 

[needtogetaas]

I'd say that adding an oral like Beastdrol will show results faster, but after 8 weeks, the end result will be the same. I think Primo doesn't show results for a while because the gains are so clean.

I still have to try Deiselbolan.

Well if I was to do a 12 week cycle of test-e and a 10 week cycle of test-prop then ya I could say the end results would end up being around the same. All things considered.

 

[sonicwaste]

I think it's all about how you look at it.

Faster acting esters will get you gaining sooner. Longer esters do take more time to essentially kick in...

However if you were to look at the time where each compound has essentially kicked in and look at the gains from "Kick In" to "Drop Out" you'd find them to be the same...

Its just that shorter esters do kick in faster.


I guess what I mean to say is that short esters don't cause faster muscle growth, just sooner. Which is what Nelson is getting at and what Need2 said. You guys are both right.

 

[bigtravis]

I'd say that adding an oral like Beastdrol will show results faster, but after 8 weeks, the end result will be the same. I think Primo doesn't show results for a while because the gains are so clean.

I still have to try Deiselbolan.

O.K. I agree here. Also along with an ester such as Propionate. It will give you results faster but the end result will be the same. Yes. In these words I agree.

 

[Lambruh]

Technically you're wrong

At all equal dose, you get more of the actual anabolic/andro compound in faster esters (prop/susp) than you do in longer ones (enat/cyp)

 

[sonicwaste]

Technically you're wrong

At all equal dose, you get more of the actual anabolic/andro compound in faster esters (prop/susp) than you do in longer ones (enat/cyp)

This is true... But let's say you took effectively equivalent amount of each... Things happen sooner, not faster.

 

[1crow]

I've been saying this for years and I know I'll be saying it for years to come. But maybe A gentle reminder every now and then will help.

Fast acting ester DO NOT grow muscle faster than long acting esters.

That's like saying that eating faster will make you run faster.

It just doesn't work that way.

I've been wondering about something and Nelson and Needto are probably the guys to ask: what are the benefits or side-effects of intermittent use of something like 100mg's Prop., kind of like what Floyd Landis was accused of during the Tour de France.

I'm 57 and my last cycle was about a year ago. I've got everything but would a boost just once every week or two be worth trying? Are there protocols for this?

-crow

 

[Lambruh]

This is true... But let's say you took effectively equivalent amount of each... Things happen sooner, not faster.

I understand, my point is, if one person has 5g's of Test Prop and one person has 5g's of Test Enat, both using in a 2 months cycle, the guy using the prop will have more muscle growth, theoretically making his muscle grow the fastest because his blood is getting MORE Test with each inject.








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