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jcp2 said:
so is the drug use in bodybuildig.

touché
and i agree with you.
 
Chambewy20 said:
Regardless it's obvious you have never worn a bench shirt, worn a squat suit or been in a competition. Your merely talking out your ass because your arguments have no basis, how interesting would football be if there was no physical effort, not interesting at all and no one would care.

I mean let's compare american football to soccer or rugby, the fact that americans use equipment based upon your argument negates the validity or whether it's interesting or not correct? I mean 10 million people at home during the Super Bowl watching grown men knock the snot out of each other is not interesting?

LMAO! you realize what you just did? in your last sentence you made my point about football being interesting as something in and of itself for me!

Watching things that are like games with or without equipment can be interesting, but power lifting is not a game, it is demonstration.

jcp2 said:
I am not sure the level of your education, but this point makes absolutely no sense anyway i think about it. Wearing equipment automatically makes it not a sport? Bodybuilding is a bunch of people standing around in bikinis. I consider that a sport, yet their is nothing even remotely athletic involved in a bodybuilding show. It actually more resembles a fashion show, or beauty pageant in the way the events are run. You are talking about something you have absolutely no knowledge of, and i am pretty sure absolutely no experience in. I am also going to go out on a limb and assume you have no experience in bodybuilding as well. You sound like one of the many "keyboard jockeys" who has an opinion on everything, and experience in nothing.

Congratulations, you managed to totally miss my point. First of all, I never said body building was a sport, so why are you attacking it like you think it helps you? Did I even say anything about body building? Pay attention.

FYI, Ed Coan, Bill Kazmire, and Glen Chabot have often expressed views similar to mine (though the first two are normally less blunt). Are you going to also tell me that they only feel that way because of their lack of experience?

You have not presented a single shred of logic. Every time I’ve posted on a thread like this the first response is someone telling me that they bet they could out bench me.



My point is so simple and absolute you have to have an emotional attachment to the boost equipment gives to fail to grasp it. Powerlifting is unique in that it is entirely dependent on strength, that’s the whole point of any sort of old strongman competition that led to modern powerlifting, even if you do 99% of the lift yourself, the simple facts that many lifters can not lift their shirted maxes raw, and that shirts are adding more and more to lifts each year, makes them completely indefensible.
 
blut wump said:
Let's go back to tennis matches with just the palms of our hands or bicycles made of iron. Obviously, no spikes for runners and no aerodynamic suits for swimmers, cyclists, skaters and runners. What about modern sports jerseys which help to conduct and evaporate sweat? Advances in footwear for almost every sport?

Where does it end and where do you draw the line? Each federation or sporting body defines the rules for its own sport. If I don't like it I watch something else secure in the knowledge that someone else still finds it interesting.

what you would and would not call a sport really is not important to my argument. What matters is that unlike Tennis and cycle riding powerlifting is supposed to be all about power!

I could give a shit that Tennis players use racket that add to their ball speed...but you really wana judge powerlifters by the same standards as tennis players?
 
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