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jcp2 said:
Well why tell me, go log onto monstermuscle and tell those guys their lifts are comical, just make sure to post your real name. My name is Joe Panella, you are completely welcome to come up to Iron Island with me on a Saturday and tell the WPO competitors that workout their, thier lifts are comical as well. You are invited anytime.

I did not say the lifts where comical, I said it was comical to call them sports.

Reread what I said. Before you respond to anyone's post it is important that you know what they just said.
 
Tiervexx said:
I did not say the lifts where comical, I said it was comical to call them sports.

Reread what I said. Before you respond to anyone's post it is important that you know what they just said.

So if I am correct in assuming that you beleive considering Powerlifting a Sport is comical, maybe I ought to take you to Westside and have you say that to either the morning or the evening crew, I'm sure you wouldn't mind.

Or are you saying considering bench only a sport is comical? Also, I've never heard of a squat only meet but would have liked it cause I was much better at a squat than anything else.

Regardless, there are comps for every type of lifter known to man, natural, raw, single ply poly only, double ply poly only or up to triple anything goes. Unless you compete, don't criticize because you really don't know what the hell your talking about, sit back down in front of your computer and remain a spectator.
 
While there isn't direct transfer over to other sports, weightlifting is completely central to all sports! If a hardcore powerlifter decided to emphasize a different sport, he or she would automatically have an unfair advantage because of his/her crazy strength. Running is easier, including for larger people who powerlift, compared to their non-lifting counterparts. Powerlifters hit things harder, can potentially jump higher, etc. than non-weightlifting people who attempt the same training in other sports. Saying powerlifting isn't a sport is like saying running isn't a sport -- both are completely central to all other sports.
 
Chambewy20 said:
So if I am correct in assuming that you beleive considering Powerlifting a Sport is comical, maybe I ought to take you to Westside and have you say that to either the morning or the evening crew, I'm sure you wouldn't mind.

Or are you saying considering bench only a sport is comical? Also, I've never heard of a squat only meet but would have liked it cause I was much better at a squat than anything else.

Regardless, there are comps for every type of lifter known to man, natural, raw, single ply poly only, double ply poly only or up to triple anything goes. Unless you compete, don't criticize because you really don't know what the hell your talking about, sit back down in front of your computer and remain a spectator.


Hell's Yeah!!!

....love this post! I'll spread around some K and hit you later for this one. :)
 
jcp2 said:
In training. Their is a kid named Nick Winters at Westside right now who benches, i beleive, 650 raw with a pause. I think he is in his early 20's, he may do some real damage in the future. I hear Chabot is making a comeback as well, to try and challenge mendys record.....

You are correct. I've been up there and he is a nice guy. He benches with ease. Chamb can probably speak more to this - we've both seen him bench.

Westside has been doing well lately. Good times again for Louie and crew.
 
Chambewy20 said:
So if I am correct in assuming that you beleive considering Powerlifting a Sport is comical, maybe I ought to take you to Westside and have you say that to either the morning or the evening crew, I'm sure you wouldn't mind.

Or are you saying considering bench only a sport is comical? Also, I've never heard of a squat only meet but would have liked it cause I was much better at a squat than anything else.

Regardless, there are comps for every type of lifter known to man, natural, raw, single ply poly only, double ply poly only or up to triple anything goes. Unless you compete, don't criticize because you really don't know what the hell your talking about, sit back down in front of your computer and remain a spectator.

did you skip over the first post I made on this thread? I knew someone would....

Tiervexx said:
What makes them interesting is the power they represent. Correct me if I’m wrong but it did not take what’s his name very long to go from 800 to 900, and then 900 to 1005. There is no way in hell he actually got that much stronger in that much time and everyone with any sense knows it.

Big lifts are VERY impressive but it's not a sport, and when you throw in equip you take away all that made it interesting.
 
Maybe a better way to make my point is with an example. Even if playing Football took no physical effort it would still be a game that many would find interesting, but powerlifting is is just that, lifting a damn bar. It is not even slightly impressive unless you are aware of the power needed to move that bar. Equipment takes away from that.
 
Tiervexx said:
Big lifts are VERY impressive but it's not a sport, and when you throw in equip you take away all that made it interesting.


I am not sure the level of your education, but this point makes absolutely no sense anyway i think about it. Wearing equipment automatically makes it not a sport? Bodybuilding is a bunch of people standing around in bikinis. I consider that a sport, yet their is nothing even remotely athletic involved in a bodybuilding show. It actually more resembles a fashion show, or beauty pageant in the way the events are run. You are talking about something you have absolutely no knowledge of, and i am pretty sure absolutely no experience in. I am also going to go out on a limb and assume you have no experience in bodybuilding as well. You sound like one of the many "keyboard jockeys" who has an opinion on everything, and experience in nothing.
 
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Let's go back to tennis matches with just the palms of our hands or bicycles made of iron. Obviously, no spikes for runners and no aerodynamic suits for swimmers, cyclists, skaters and runners. What about modern sports jerseys which help to conduct and evaporate sweat? Advances in footwear for almost every sport?

Where does it end and where do you draw the line? Each federation or sporting body defines the rules for its own sport. If I don't like it I watch something else secure in the knowledge that someone else still finds it interesting.
 
Tiervexx said:
Maybe a better way to make my point is with an example. Even if playing Football took no physical effort it would still be a game that many would find interesting, but powerlifting is is just that, lifting a damn bar. It is not even slightly impressive unless you are aware of the power needed to move that bar. Equipment takes away from that.

Based upon that premise, a sport is only a sport if it is a game? You mean you have to score or something in order for it to be a sport?

So track is not a sport, I don't beleive you are scored during track, winning is qualitative, whether your first or not, and based upon your performance. Or maybe if your on a track team, winning is quantitative, the team with the most points wins.

Regardless it's obvious you have never worn a bench shirt, worn a squat suit or been in a competition. Your merely talking out your ass because your arguments have no basis, how interesting would football be if there was no physical effort, not interesting at all and no one would care.

I mean let's compare american football to soccer or rugby, the fact that americans use equipment based upon your argument negates the validity or whether it's interesting or not correct? I mean 10 million people at home during the Super Bowl watching grown men knock the snot out of each other is not interesting?
 
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