You can be a national level powerlifter natural. You can't win a local natural bodybuilding show natural. Drug use in bodybuilding is rediculous, an completely out of hand. It is a sport you cannot enter without commiting numerous felonies. I have nothing against drug use, i am just making a point. And please don't give me the shit about drugs building real muscle. I have done them, i know if i wanted to start again i could put about 60 lbs on my raw bench with no more hard work than i am doing now and no dietary changes as long as i put about 600 mg of test into my body every week. I don't care who takes them, i lift in the APF. Just stating the truth. I have no clue why people who have no interest in powerlifting or aspirations come in here to preach their shit. Do you think i am going to stop wearing my shirt because you feel it is too much. Do you think the sport is all the sudden going to stop and re examine itself, or did you just need to get that off your chest.