Bench equal to Deadlift?

[boss_]

its easier for shorter people to bench more b/c their arms are shorter. I dunno maybe that has something to do with it?

That has EVERYTHING to do with it! My guess is, this guy's arms are less than long.

 

[Protobuilder]

But leg strength is generally much higher than bench strength, and with short arms, you'd use more leg drive to start the deadlift . . . so unless your legs are weak, the deadlift should still be far ahead of the bench.

 

[b fold the truth]

I have some friends who can bench upper 5's raw and pull lower 6's raw...mostly because of their barrel chest, large belly, and THICK hands limiting their pull and assisting their press.

When you have an injury that you are working around...don't focus on things like this. Focus on making small increases with/around your injury so when you are ready to go 100%...your progress will shoot through the roof.

My best close grip bench is a raw 431 I think and my best raw deadlift is 735.

 

[Lifting N Tx]

I know the obvious points to undertraining for the deads and its true with a knee injury my lower body has been neglected this year...

Sometimes the obvious is the answer. That and possibly the suggestion made by several that your body may lend itself more to push than pull type movements.

So the question is, are you training deads as seriously as your bench now? If so, how is your relative progress? I'd expect them to move ahead of your bench fairly quickly. Note that "as seriously" may not mean the same frequency, as a lot of people can't do a real high frequency with deadlifts.

Oh, and FWIW, I used to mostly train bench and arms hard, have only been doing full body hard for a few months. I'm no longer a kid, and taking my time working up to heavier weights for deads, but I'd be surprised if I could do any more than my bench if I keep a flat back. My 1RM with bench is 275, but still doing deads for reps with less than that and working my way up.

 

[Cynical Simian]

Is bench max being just about equal to deads a common thing.

Common, yes, given that the average UA-wearing gym assclown probably doesn't even deadlift.

But seriously, like others have said, unless you're a bench specialist PL or something like that, your dead should be quite a bit higher. Don't worry about it - once your knee is closer to 100% you should be able to push deads/squats more and they should shoot up.

 

[niasdaddy2005]

Common, yes, given that the average UA-wearing gym assclown probably doesn't even deadlift.

But seriously, like others have said, unless you're a bench specialist PL or something like that, your dead should be quite a bit higher. Don't worry about it - once your knee is closer to 100% you should be able to push deads/squats more and they should shoot up.

I have to admit I was a non-deadlifting assclown until recently ( never wear UA though). My past goals were to have a 2x body weight bench with huge arms. Now that i am trying to educate myself about the sport (plus maybe not so young and dumb anymore) i want the complete package. I know that putting on mass would be a huge factor but I want my weight to stay relatively the same so i can compete at 165lbs. My body fat is up a little right now so i can afford to add about 10lbs and still be able to cut back to 165. As far as my form im not really sure, NO ONE at my gym does deads other than me. I've watched as many clips as i can from the net, but still not sure if i've got the form down. And as far as my dead routine it mainly consits of Deads, then Squats, and more leg work, any help on creating a routine to raise my deads would be greatly appreciated. Thanks to all who commented.

 

[Cynical Simian]

You don't really need a deadlift "routine" (e.g. assistance exercises to target weak points in the lift) per se at this point; just go into the gym each week and deadlift with ~5 pounds more than you did the previous week.

Also, squat before you deadlift rather than vice versa.

 

[donmcgowen]

I'm 213lbs. only been training 5 months. My bench has gone from 190 to 260. Which I think is decent increase but not great for bodyweight. Heres where it gets bad. I can only squat about 225 and deadlift about 270.I'm in the same boat. It's odd when people can't squat more than they bench. I'm in decent shape 16% bf, my legs aren't small, they are proportionate, so should be squatting at least 300lbs. Hopefully my squats will start improving at a higher pace.

 

[Wills]

I guess I'm a similar weight/build:

Height 5'9"
Weight 175lb

Bench 1RM: 285lb (5RM 255lb)
Deadlift 5RM: 365lb (never tried 1RM)

so about 110lb or 40% extra on deads.

 

[Protobuilder]

A program for deads? What Cynical Simien said. Here's a real basic approach:

Monday

5 reps at a pretty easy weight

Friday

3 reps at Monday's weight + 5 pounds

Monday

5 reps w/ Friday's weight

Friday

3 reps w/ Monday's weight +5

Repeat for the next 3 years and you'll be deadlifting 700. LoL j/k but the basic idea is, start w/ a pretty easy weight, keep adding weight in a logical, consistent fashion (here, 5 pounds a week, shooting to hit a triple on Friday then come back on Monday and hit 5 w/ that same weight). It'll be easy at first, but a few weeks into it, the weights get challenging. And eventually, you'll hit your current max and hopefully surpass it.

All this has to fit w/in your regular workout though. So, if you plan to hit a new triple on Friday but then go to the gym and go crazy on SAt. and Sun., when Monday rolls around, you won't be able to get 5 w/ Friday's weight. Make sense? You need an overall plan and the deadlift progression needs to be part of that plan. It isn't running on it's own track, IOW. It's one wheel on your 4-wheel car or whatever.