Bench equal to Deadlift?

[niasdaddy2005]

I know this is gonna sound like a dumb question, but here goes anyway. Is bench max being just about equal to deads a common thing. I know the obvious points to undertraining for the deads and its true with a knee injury my lower body has been neglected this year, but as i look at the 1 rep maxs of most people that list it 99% of those have a higher dead than bench press, but i am just the opposite ( my bench an dead are about even). Am i alone on this?

 

[SgtSlaughter]

what are your stats?

 

[superqt4u2nv]

I wish I could bench 245 my deadlift has almost 100 lbs on my max bench.

 

[Rabid_Goose]

My 1RM for Dead was 300 when I was just toying with them, but I used a Trap Bar, now I use a BB. My best bench ever was 205 and that was on a really REALLY good, focused day with tons of complex carbs that morning lol. I haven't been able to do it since but plan on in 2-3 months able to 3 rep it if 5x5 goes well.

Injuries suck, and will always set you back. I wouldn't be disappointed, just more determined.

 

[niasdaddy2005]

what are your stats?

Im 5'6 i call it 5'7, 165lbs, 25 years old, training consistantly for the past year. Bench max 270, deadlift max about 265, i know dead max is shit.

 

[SgtSlaughter]

Im 5'6 i call it 5'7, 165lbs, 25 years old, training consistantly for the past year. Bench max 270, deadlift max about 265, i know dead max is shit.

You're strong for your weight!

Hmm... maybe your just not made to pull... made to push though, lol

That is peculiar.

I've got 200lbs more for my dead than bench... my bench is at 200x4 for a current max though... 6' ... i was just made to pull.

All we can do is speculate... post up your deadlift routine and maybe we can help you progress at it... although adding bodyweight is the great equalizer at making all lifts go up.

 

[carlsuen]

u sure? dude... at 165 lbs benching 270? i'm not trying to be an ass here.. but are u sure ur form is correct? as benching at that, u should be DL-ing 4-500 lbs man!

 

[chris350]

You're strong for your weight!

Hmm... maybe your just not made to pull... made to push though, lol

That is peculiar.

I've got 200lbs more for my dead than bench... my bench is at 200x4 for a current max though... 6' ... i was just made to pull.

All we can do is speculate... post up your deadlift routine and maybe we can help you progress at it... although adding bodyweight is the great equalizer at making all lifts go up.

its easier for shorter people to bench more b/c their arms are shorter. I dunno maybe that has something to do with it?

 

[X Man]

i can bench 365 and i deadlift 550.... those figures stay pretty much in range....by the end of this cycle i wanna bench 400 and dead ift 6

 

[Protobuilder]

Bench generally far outpaces the bench. It's the maximum pull your body can muster and it brings a ton of musculature into play. It's highly likely that you just haven't trained it as carefully/frequently as you've trained your bench. What you focus on increases.

 

[boss_]

its easier for shorter people to bench more b/c their arms are shorter. I dunno maybe that has something to do with it?

That has EVERYTHING to do with it! My guess is, this guy's arms are less than long.

 

[Protobuilder]

But leg strength is generally much higher than bench strength, and with short arms, you'd use more leg drive to start the deadlift . . . so unless your legs are weak, the deadlift should still be far ahead of the bench.

 

[b fold the truth]

I have some friends who can bench upper 5's raw and pull lower 6's raw...mostly because of their barrel chest, large belly, and THICK hands limiting their pull and assisting their press.

When you have an injury that you are working around...don't focus on things like this. Focus on making small increases with/around your injury so when you are ready to go 100%...your progress will shoot through the roof.

My best close grip bench is a raw 431 I think and my best raw deadlift is 735.

 

[Lifting N Tx]

I know the obvious points to undertraining for the deads and its true with a knee injury my lower body has been neglected this year...

Sometimes the obvious is the answer. That and possibly the suggestion made by several that your body may lend itself more to push than pull type movements.

So the question is, are you training deads as seriously as your bench now? If so, how is your relative progress? I'd expect them to move ahead of your bench fairly quickly. Note that "as seriously" may not mean the same frequency, as a lot of people can't do a real high frequency with deadlifts.

Oh, and FWIW, I used to mostly train bench and arms hard, have only been doing full body hard for a few months. I'm no longer a kid, and taking my time working up to heavier weights for deads, but I'd be surprised if I could do any more than my bench if I keep a flat back. My 1RM with bench is 275, but still doing deads for reps with less than that and working my way up.

 

[Cynical Simian]

Is bench max being just about equal to deads a common thing.

Common, yes, given that the average UA-wearing gym assclown probably doesn't even deadlift.

But seriously, like others have said, unless you're a bench specialist PL or something like that, your dead should be quite a bit higher. Don't worry about it - once your knee is closer to 100% you should be able to push deads/squats more and they should shoot up.

 

[niasdaddy2005]

Common, yes, given that the average UA-wearing gym assclown probably doesn't even deadlift.

But seriously, like others have said, unless you're a bench specialist PL or something like that, your dead should be quite a bit higher. Don't worry about it - once your knee is closer to 100% you should be able to push deads/squats more and they should shoot up.

I have to admit I was a non-deadlifting assclown until recently ( never wear UA though). My past goals were to have a 2x body weight bench with huge arms. Now that i am trying to educate myself about the sport (plus maybe not so young and dumb anymore) i want the complete package. I know that putting on mass would be a huge factor but I want my weight to stay relatively the same so i can compete at 165lbs. My body fat is up a little right now so i can afford to add about 10lbs and still be able to cut back to 165. As far as my form im not really sure, NO ONE at my gym does deads other than me. I've watched as many clips as i can from the net, but still not sure if i've got the form down. And as far as my dead routine it mainly consits of Deads, then Squats, and more leg work, any help on creating a routine to raise my deads would be greatly appreciated. Thanks to all who commented.

 

[Cynical Simian]

You don't really need a deadlift "routine" (e.g. assistance exercises to target weak points in the lift) per se at this point; just go into the gym each week and deadlift with ~5 pounds more than you did the previous week.

Also, squat before you deadlift rather than vice versa.

 

[donmcgowen]

I'm 213lbs. only been training 5 months. My bench has gone from 190 to 260. Which I think is decent increase but not great for bodyweight. Heres where it gets bad. I can only squat about 225 and deadlift about 270.I'm in the same boat. It's odd when people can't squat more than they bench. I'm in decent shape 16% bf, my legs aren't small, they are proportionate, so should be squatting at least 300lbs. Hopefully my squats will start improving at a higher pace.

 

[Wills]

I guess I'm a similar weight/build:

Height 5'9"
Weight 175lb

Bench 1RM: 285lb (5RM 255lb)
Deadlift 5RM: 365lb (never tried 1RM)

so about 110lb or 40% extra on deads.

 

[Protobuilder]

A program for deads? What Cynical Simien said. Here's a real basic approach:

Monday

5 reps at a pretty easy weight

Friday

3 reps at Monday's weight + 5 pounds

Monday

5 reps w/ Friday's weight

Friday

3 reps w/ Monday's weight +5

Repeat for the next 3 years and you'll be deadlifting 700. LoL j/k but the basic idea is, start w/ a pretty easy weight, keep adding weight in a logical, consistent fashion (here, 5 pounds a week, shooting to hit a triple on Friday then come back on Monday and hit 5 w/ that same weight). It'll be easy at first, but a few weeks into it, the weights get challenging. And eventually, you'll hit your current max and hopefully surpass it.

All this has to fit w/in your regular workout though. So, if you plan to hit a new triple on Friday but then go to the gym and go crazy on SAt. and Sun., when Monday rolls around, you won't be able to get 5 w/ Friday's weight. Make sense? You need an overall plan and the deadlift progression needs to be part of that plan. It isn't running on it's own track, IOW. It's one wheel on your 4-wheel car or whatever.

 

[sum_dude]

Im 5'-6" about 160 and my max bench is 265lbs.....deadlift is 425lbs.....Hawaiian power......

 

[perp69]

My deads smoke my bench right now by about 210lbs. Seems like in general good deadlifters have weaker benches and versa vice due to the arms. I guess I would have a good reach though in MMA fighting.

Perp

 

[niasdaddy2005]

My deads smoke my bench right now by about 210lbs. Seems like in general good deadlifters have weaker benches and versa vice due to the arms. I guess I would have a good reach though in MMA fighting.

Perp

Well got my deadlift max up to 285 today, so i can no longer say my bench is higher than my deads.

 

[musclemom]

I knew a woman who was a natty benchpress record holder. She was short, like 5'1" or so. Her dead was the suck too. Broad had benched 265 raw, couldn't pull over 150. I'm tall, I have a crappy bench, but I was outpulling her in the second week I did deads. Deadlifts are about body proportions as much as benches are.

What about trying squats?

 

[Lextasy]

i cant pull shit... 200x3 gives me problems... but ive always had small legs (not anymore however) and never done squats or deads...

right now im 6'1"
190 @ about 10%
18yrs

Bench: 245x5
id like to know what my 1rm bench is tho... havent tried since my shoulder injury, but before that was 300.. i think i could do it again...

Squat: 200x5
Dead: 190x5

these past 5 weeks was my first time doing squats and deads...

question? how can i get my deads accelerated besides pounding them week by week? any secrets?

 

[s8nlilhlpr]

Work on form. Honestly, just keep hammering away at them. Focus on them, just like you did to get your bench up. If they don't fatigue you too much, pull twice a week. Box squats really helped me learn how to pull from a much lower position.

 

[Lextasy]

appreciate it

 

[H_T_]

i've got like a 75'' reach and can bench 435. my pull is about 100 more than that. i think determination is the biggest factor. if you let your mental limitations be set by your physical statistics, you'll never get where you wanna be.

 

[superqt4u2nv]

i cant pull shit... 200x3 gives me problems... but ive always had small legs (not anymore however) and never done squats or deads...

right now im 6'1"
190 @ about 10%
18yrs

Bench: 245x5
id like to know what my 1rm bench is tho... havent tried since my shoulder injury, but before that was 300.. i think i could do it again...

Squat: 200x5
Dead: 190x5

these past 5 weeks was my first time doing squats and deads...

question? how can i get my deads accelerated besides pounding them week by week? any secrets?

No real secret it is a marthon not a sprint keep plugging away week in week out and watch the numbers go up. You might want to tose in some rack deads to change things up a bit make sure you are adding to your lift either via rep or weight every week.

i think determination is the biggest factor. if you let your mental limitations be set by your physical statistics, you'll never get where you wanna be.

Correct you are sir.

I own the iron it does not own me.

 

[pitbullrocco]

i'm one of those benchers too i guess from also not doing many deadlifts in the past.....used to be an "upper body lifter"......still my deads are a oh almost 100 lbs better in correct form....problem is my back gets all twisted easy.....doh!