Bad Depression and Anxiety

[ProtienFiend]

Yes, one way to look at depression is through theroies of neurobiologics, but what about psychological theroies? You truley beleive that depression only arises through biologics? What about the lose of a loved one?? what about a person ubbringing- lack of love, care, warmth and protection?? irrational beliefs amd negative distortions of thought about one self?? And when you speak of one who is in their deppressive state, could there be more to altered body chemistry, this is why cognitive-behavioral-therapy is so effective, it tackles the our thought process and we can live healthfully with psychological issues. Include other models into that medical model approach! and you said it yourself, the two make for great recovery.
I agree with you-that meds and use of CBT is very effective; however, i think misunderstood what others encouraged and why one should look into CBT. Yes, you hear of CBT (pretty much) only used with patients with mood disorders and other disorders, but why couldn't one use this therapy when they first notice symptoms of depression?? We both know the answer.... because people are not educated in effective ways to deal/cope with problems and do not face them-leaving the problem unattended-which causes a sever state. But what if it people did know of statagies...... Perhaps you should look at the idea of health promotion/proactive and CBT..could these therapies not be used to the general public for depression??

I think what hes trying to say is: We're not sure if low test levels are the symptom or are the disease.

 

[thezan]

I think what hes trying to say is: We're not sure if low test levels are the symptom or are the disease.

there was more to it ........

All i was trying to say is that one who suffers from mild depression and anxiety should not be so quick to throw all sorts of meds into their body.
He was very quick and confident to suggest seeing a doc and getting meds to help.
I suggest, before medical approach, let's look at other therapeutic ways we can help with depression and anxiety....and CBT is an excellent choice.

also i strongly beleive!
If people do suffer from more than normal depression and anxiety-as a result from gear or not-, leaning towards dysthymic disorder (milder, chronic form of MDD) and in the worse case MDD, IMO they should not be near gear.

 

[liftr486]

i think i may have pin pointed the problem...i just read somewhere that dostinex suppresses testosterone as a result of suppressing prolactin....has ne body heard nething about this?

 

[Viriato]

Well, from 19 till 26 I used three kinds of pills: anafranil, olcadil and socian. It did a hell of a job for me. The only "not so good" thing was my libido and/or test levels going down. Whenever I felt this happening, I would go with hcg, 500 ui every 2 or three days till I was in shape. I was able to get rid of the pills. Now I'm having more problems again due to a bad tren cycle, which led me to sleep privation and to anxiety, panic attacks, depression. I'm taking diazepam (valium) and Triticum Ac 150. It is helping me, but I still have a lot to go. I might have some libido/test issues with this new treatment, so I will go back to Hcg, 500ui eod ou every 3 days. I'm also feeling bloated, liquid retention and have no idea where the hell that is coming from. I just did some tests, will get them next monday. Currently, I'm on proviron + Zma + Tribulus + melatonin + valium + triticum ac 150. It might be one of these that is getting me bloated/high estrogen levels. And this really gets me even more depressed, causa I am dieting well, but my stomach alwasys seems to have some fat/water. Have no idea.I did a heavy cycle of hcg, took too much in too little time cause I was freaking out cause my libido was down. But that was almost three months ago. If anyone has a clue, share it or just pm.