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I am a good wrestler so its just hard for me to bel that somebody can throw multiple people comming at them at once when I cannot even picture anyone throwing me. I can get taken down but to be tossed down? I honestly cannot see it happing. I know good judo guys can do it but throwing multiple people around i find hard to bel. Something you only see in movies. Yea the average joe that does not know anything might be a different story.

I am the same way when it comes to punks in a bar most of the time unless i am drunk. My fuse is much shorter but some punks just wont let shit go and when they get in groups they start shit you cannot avoid. That is why i do not go out anymore. Got lucky with a few assults even though I did not start the fight.

Judo Tom said:
i never said i would chuck multiple people around like rag dolls. one guy is normally EASY for me to throw because i train 6x a week throwing people who are very skilled at not getting thrown. if i can throw a trained fighter in a tournament i feel pretty confident about throwing someone on the street. i cant knock people out EASILY w/ strikes because i dont train for that as much compared to my grappling training

of course i would rather run then fight 3 guys. id rather walk away then fight one guy. i have 0 ego on the street. someone can hurl insults at me til there blue in the face and i will go home laffing and be on the mat the next day with no shame whatsoever. i fight when my safety or the safety of truly close friends/family are in IMMEDIATE danger. i know some people like to fight if there honor is insulted but im not even like that. i can walk away smiling from a 110lb college kid with a pink shirt and sleep like a baby that night.
 
Sorry to take over your thread bro. I was just stating my opinion and it looks like things go little out of hand. That is elite for you. Why do you think about 50's of vets have left the past few years? Look at all my other post. I am not the one to start trouble and hardly every argue but I feel very strongly about this subject. One dipshit wants to spout off bull from his pie hole and I guarantee he is nothing.

Red Bull said:
christ almighty, what have i started..?
 
No idea what you are talking about. LOL I am going back to the real MMA forums.

redbear said:
I mean absolutly no disrespect but my profession allows me to be in a lot
of different violent situation and based solely on what you said your limited
in certain aspect`s and the dangerous part is it does`nt seem like your open
to in put other than from the world that your accustomed to. the GOOD thing is
your a runner. THE MORE YOU LEARN THE LESS YOU FIND OUT YOU KNOW!
KA-BAR.
 
KA-BAR said:
I train to run when I do not have my friends with me. IMO its stupid to fight multiple guys on the street with out backup. I train for one vs one. You or him.

And your "Training got your ass handed to you , because you PRESUMED that Life would always hand your an Escape or a perfect "Fair Fight" .

Welcome to Reality .


Hey bro. I have some underground videos also where anything goes! Kimbo has many on the net and have you ever seen any of the Vale Tudo! — This grappling sport was originally a Brazilian form of street fighting. Many tapes on it man and no rules. No gloves ect… Of course this is one vs one again. I don’t know much about multiple attackers and I think its crazy to even try to take them on alone not knowing what skills they have. Sure I might be able to walk up to 5 skinny dudes and take of few of them out but no way in hell would I do it.

Sometimes the "5 skinny dudes" dont give you any options . Train for everythign , be suprised by nothing .



So you can be national champ Muay Thai guys up because your 400lb’s is faster and you can block everything and perform joint manipulations on them with gloves? Suuurrrreeee bud. This is ridiculous to say you are a better boxer and muey thai fighter than the pro’s. National champs at that. Hell why don’t you just go pro and make millions? :laugh2: You have to be ignorant to think people will believe this. :rolleyes:

Im neither a "Boxer" or a "Muay Thai Fighter" Im a Standup Dominant fighter with great Speed and explosive power . And please try to read . Hes an Amateur national Champion that held Titles DECADES apart , he dosent move to the pros because he thinks that he gets more fights as an amateur in the states . And hes quite easily reachable for questioning . Thats why I posted HIS words , not mine .




Man you talk a ton of crap I none of that bullcrap you spout out works. I don’t fight more than one person anymore I learned from it like I have said many times. Its stupid IMO. One on one I am ready to roll with just about anyone. Many underground fights you get get off the net.

Like I said , youre more than invited to come down and play Drums with me and see how fast your hands are in comparison to mine after the 1st of the year . You cant POSIBLY coinstrue this as a threat in any way , because its not . And well see who gets tired first .
 
KA-BAR said:
what! Are you serious. LOL. Just because a few guy like to blow you because you are tree dont mean shit. Your a want to be figher who I am gussing cannot walk up a flight of stairs without sucking wind. You talk way to much bullshit and people would have to be blind not to see it. You toss people around at will and beat up on Pro Muey guys and pro boxers. Give me a break. lol

People give me a little respect because I post Respectfully when given the Opportunity , I give out solid information and advice , and Im a good Training Partner thats always willing to lend a hand . And I dont Toss people around "At Will" I toss them after a good Setup or good footwork just like anything else in Fighting . Just because you dont know how its done , dont come blaming those of us that do .

ps your post are tiring me also. You post tons of bullshit and yea I am gussing I would run around you and take you down at will just by seeing what you type. I have seen your type many times. Just another internet tough guy. Thats all.

Theres no "Bullshit" IN me , pal . You came in hear spouting Noise and telling everyone that you havent met what they are and are not . Telling Tom whom he can and cant Throw , telling me how big I get to be in your fatasy life .

The only reason you think my posts are Tiring is because you find Reading to be "Work" . Too bad you didnt actualy READ the Bold Text . You would know how big a Tool you look right now .
 
KA-BAR said:
I am a good wrestler so its just hard for me to bel that somebody can throw multiple people comming at them at once when I cannot even picture anyone throwing me. I can get taken down but to be tossed down? I honestly cannot see it happing. I know good judo guys can do it but throwing multiple people around i find hard to bel. Something you only see in movies. Yea the average joe that does not know anything might be a different story.

I am the same way when it comes to punks in a bar most of the time unless i am drunk. My fuse is much shorter but some punks just wont let shit go and when they get in groups they start shit you cannot avoid. That is why i do not go out anymore. Got lucky with a few assults even though I did not start the fight.


Wow , you just dont listen . Or perhaps its that you dont HEAR . You dont HAVE to throw multiple ppl , you only have to throw ONE really WELL . You break up the groups Cohesiveness and its no harder than fighting one guy at a time , the TRICK is CAN you break the group up , and stack the lines of attack in your favour .
 
KA-BAR said:
What in the hell! You seem to try very hard to get people to believe in you. Tell you what. I am going to make a few calls to my buds who are training for the UFC to see if you can stop by and train with them. They have a pro boxer and many many ground and pound wrestlers and submission guys hey train with. You come over here and I will come visit you. If you like we can spar a round or 2 also. No eye gouging and no peker kicks. Anything else goes.

If you are the size you say you are I will have to change my strategy around a bit but I am almost 100% certain I will throw a few leg kicks then do a lightning fast ankle pick and BOOM when you hit the mat. It will be all over. Once I get you down you will not get up.

IF you throw Leg kicks at me youll hurt your legs . In fact , Ill, stand there and let you do it till youre Limping . IF I allow you to go to the ground with me the ONLY thing that will happen is that Ill sit on you till I CHOOSE to get up . And IF youre TRULY stupid enough to try for an Ankle Pick youll get your head sat/kneeled on .




oh , and dude , I AM the size I say I am . READ , and LOOK

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Djimbe/ETC2-BrooksJim-7.jpg

Theres me walking curling a 200 lb man by his skull .

I honestly cannot see where drumming would help you in a fight but who knows. Maybe it does.

You cant see what handspeed and Timing could add to Fighting Ability ? Im not suprised .
 
KA-BAR said:
I am a good wrestler so its just hard for me to bel that somebody can throw multiple people comming at them at once when I cannot even picture anyone throwing me. I can get taken down but to be tossed down? I honestly cannot see it happing. I know good judo guys can do it but throwing multiple people around i find hard to bel. Something you only see in movies. Yea the average joe that does not know anything might be a different story.

I am the same way when it comes to punks in a bar most of the time unless i am drunk. My fuse is much shorter but some punks just wont let shit go and when they get in groups they start shit you cannot avoid. That is why i do not go out anymore. Got lucky with a few assults even though I did not start the fight.

everyone can be thrown. you just havent trained with someone who can do it. if you are near pittsburgh there are some dojos you could go to and they would so you. wrestling is awesome for the street and gives you great balance but that doesnt mean you cant get thrown. especially on the street.

i just think you havent been exposed to this aspect of fighting. im sure before you became a good wreslter you might have thought it impossible for a 120lb guy to takedown a huge guy but hopefully in your wrestling training you have seen that too.. its the same thing.. if your good at takedowns you can take people down in the street.. the more you practice the more weight/strength/skill you can handle and still get a good takedown. well that goes for everything. punching.. kicking and definately throwing.

wrestlers make great judo players if your not competing anymore in wrestling you should think about giving judo a shot for a month or two you would probably like it a bunch.. same with BJJ/sambo/etc

Good Luck
 
I am going up north to train with Eric Wince who will be in the next ultimate fighter. Buddy of mine trains with him. I am a skilled fighter and they all agree internet is mostly guy’s just talking smack. I don’t have time to read all this bull. This will be my last post since they are now getting edited. hahahah.

Djimbe my training never got my ass handed to me my dumb ass was the one who walked out the door with 3 of them. That is where I learned. You guys don’t have to try to tell me how to fight. Lots of talk in here and that’s it. Arm chair trash talk. I am the real deal so you guys can think whatever you want.

I will be in Sherdogs and mma.tv from now on where I will talk with the educated MMA fighters who know what works and what does not. elite has to many punks these days. You post a picture of some big gorilla looking guy and say it you. How in the fuck are you going to walk up to somebody and grab them by the head like that. LOL This shit kills me. Bunch of dips shits if you ask me. Have fun I don’t have time for kids.




Djimbe said:
And your "Training got your ass handed to you , because you PRESUMED that Life would always hand your an Escape or a perfect "Fair Fight" .

Welcome to Reality .




Sometimes the "5 skinny dudes" dont give you any options . Train for everythign , be suprised by nothing .





Im neither a "Boxer" or a "Muay Thai Fighter" Im a Standup Dominant fighter with great Speed and explosive power . And please try to read . Hes an Amateur national Champion that held Titles DECADES apart , he dosent move to the pros because he thinks that he gets more fights as an amateur in the states . And hes quite easily reachable for questioning . Thats why I posted HIS words , not mine .






Like I said , youre more than invited to come down and play Drums with me and see how fast your hands are in comparison to mine after the 1st of the year . You cant POSIBLY coinstrue this as a threat in any way , because its not . And well see who gets tired first .

no need for flames buddy - Judo Tom
 
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