Ashcroft turns 2ND AMENDMENT on its head, argues for personal right to bear arms

[The Almighty]

because SURPRISE, there are records from the debates. I'll bet my right testicle that you've never read them!

If you point me towards these records I will be sure to read them so I can effectively argue against all of your propaganda you are so dear of.

 

[RyanH]

great comic Smalls.

Ironic that the same Attorney General who argues that our constitutional rights must be restricted in order to deter terrorism (loss of innocent life) is also willing to expand rights (right to own a gun) so that thousands of innocent people will lose their lives.

 

[KA-BAR]

Re: Re: Re: Ashcroft turns 2ND AMENDMENT on its head, argues for personal right to bear arms

Why are you so concerned with accidental deaths when I'm concerned with intentional violent crime (often carried out via guns)? please take note of the most severe risk stemming from guns.

As for the NRA---sure, they save lives. LOL! That's why they've fought for years against such wise legislation as the Brady Bill and laws such as those seeking to close the gun show loophole. The NRA has aided and abetted wrongdoers by impliciting pursuing legislation that does nothing but benefit their wrongful desires and threaten our nation's health.

There is one simple fix to stop the violent crime carried out by Guns and that is put the affenders in prison where they belong. And Im glad the NRA fights against new legislation. I have many High powered rifles and semi auto's that can be easily converted to full auto if need be and Not one of them is registed! I dont want to be red flagged when the Gov decides to come take the guns like they did in Austraila, Canada and UK also I think. You also fail to mention the good side of guns like how many women have been saved from rape ect... ect....

 

[RyanH]

well ladies and gentlemen, I've enjoyed the civil debate, but I'm out of here for tonight.

I'll comment on the other good responses tomorrow.

Ryan.

 

[Rex]

when the framers used the word "people," they did not intend that all adults could bear arms. Instead, the word "people" refers to another definition of "people"--those the states deem should be part of the militia (note the word "militia" before it).

You're saying that all citizens are not people. So let us say the state chooses who can be in a militia. Now let us say that these chosen "people" get out of hand. What on earth are the non-militia supposed to use to protect themselves? Well your idea has them without guns so they can't use guns to protect themselves. Tell me what they are supposed to do.

 

[The Almighty]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Ashcroft turns 2ND AMENDMENT on its head, argues for personal right to bear arms

There is one simple fix to stop the violent crime carried out by Guns and that is put the affenders in prison where they belong. And Im glad the NRA fights against new legislation. I have many High powered rifles and semi auto's that can be easily converted to full auto if need be and Not one of them is registed! I dont want to be red flagged when the Gov decides to come take the guns like they did in Austraila, Canada and UK also I think. You also fail to mention the good side of guns like how many women have been saved from rap ect... ect....

Exactly. You cant argue that the majority of those who own guns are going to use them illegally against another human being because statistically that cant be further from the truth.

 

[Mdguy]

www.tylwythteg.com/enemies/Ashcroft/ashcroft.html

LOL
Enough Ass-croft pictures, more pics of you!!!!!!

SMA, what are you feelings about gun control??? May I show you the gun (more like a long-nosed rifle) in my pants?. If you're a good girl, I can teach you how to pull the trigger and make it fire

 

[smallmovesal]

i said.. ah simma... down!

 

[Steroid_Virgin]

well ladies and gentlemen, I've enjoyed the civil debate, but I'm out of here for tonight.

I'll comment on the other good responses tomorrow.

Ryan.

TJ said it best himself... "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. ...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man" --Thomas Jefferson, quoting with approval a noted criminologist of his day.

Since he was the one who basically wrote the Declaration of Ind, (most of which was taken in form from the magna charta) its easy to see what his thoughts were on the right of private citizens to arm themselves, in order to maintain life liberty and happiness.

Freedom is not given by the governement, freedom is an effect of having an armed population.. " So That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it"..

In order to protect our god given rights, we have to be armed, because people are power hungry mongers (elite mods included).

You can argue his true intentions until you are blue in the face, TJ was a staunch supporter of a gun in every law abiding citizens hand.. That is where freedom comes from my friend, not from a piece of paper with ink on it... but From having a well armed populace.. You cant have freedom with out it, unless you believe in utopia dude...

 

[Rex]

Allow me to quote Matt:

How to impose martial law:
1. Disarm the populace.
2. Impose martial law.