actually, i know they were IP's winny tabs, and i let them dissolve under my tounge. I didn't chew, just let them sit there till nothing was left, they didn't taste all that horrible. Yeh, i got little from them, nothing like 50mg of injectable winny per day. I was training as normal, was on a low carb diet and high protein, was staying lean, but i didn't feel the pump i should have had from that dosage of winny. Maybe they were real, im just saying i didn't care much for them.