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Anavar or Winny---which is better?

Techbaseball said:
I have read soooo much about Anavar that I think i've lost some vision out of my left eye. I have read multiple threads and articles about Anavar only cycles. It appears that results from Anavar all depends on Diet and training. If you are in the process of a bulking routine... u can expect possible lbm gains between 5-15 lbs (8 week cycle 40-60mg ed). If you using Anavar during a cutting phase.... then expect to get hard and vascular.. with possible lbm gains of 0-5 lbs.

Again.. only speaking from what I've read. Will be able to provide real life experience soon. :) Personally, I'm going to try to bulk from an Anavar only cycle.

--Techbaseball
Why anyone would want to bulk with anavar is beyond me. :confused:
 
Outtlaw said:
Why anyone would want to bulk with anavar is beyond me. :confused:

Another bizarre statement imo. And I bet you like things like d-bol and deca to bulk with...

Just because something doesn't bloat the $#%@ out of you doesn't mean it can't be used on a bulk.

Why WOULDN'T you want to bulk with anavar? You don't like large strength gains when bulking? You don't like keeping a feeling of hardness when you're blowing up from all the calories?

I can see an argument for appetite suppression, but this only affects some people.
 
Joe Stenson said:
Another bizarre statement imo. And I bet you like things like d-bol and deca to bulk with...

Just because something doesn't bloat the $#%@ out of you doesn't mean it can't be used on a bulk.

Why WOULDN'T you want to bulk with anavar? You don't like large strength gains when bulking? You don't like keeping a feeling of hardness when you're blowing up from all the calories?

I can see an argument for appetite suppression, but this only affects some people.
It's only bizzare to you. Var is too costly and you have to use too much of it to get reasonable results for bulk purposes. Maybe if you're 150lbs and it's your 1st or 2nd cycle, var might be worth while for bulking. But why anyone at an advanced level would want to bulk with one of the mildest anabolics available is beyond me. There are much better choices IMO.

But this is exactly why you cant tell people anything on these boards anymore. Most of the guys here arent looking to get huge, they just want to gain 10-15lbs and be ripped. So they push the weakest compounds in the lowest doses, with the least amount of sides and dont want to hear anything different. And then there's always some rookie comming on here saying how they blew up on 100mg/wk of primo. Anyone with a decent amount of mass knows that's complete bullshit. But hey, if you want to take your little 35-40mg of var and gain 5lbs so you can look like the guy on the cover of GQ magazine, then more power to you. But for those who want to gain some real mass, then I suggest you make better bulking choices than var only cycles.
 
Outtlaw said:
It's only bizzare to you. Var is too costly and you have to use too much of it to get reasonable results for bulk purposes. Maybe if you're 150lbs and it's your 1st or 2nd cycle, var might be worth while for bulking. But why anyone at an advanced level would want to bulk with one of the mildest anabolics available is beyond me. There are much better choices IMO.

But this is exactly why you cant tell people anything on these boards anymore. Most of the guys here arent looking to get huge, they just want to gain 10-15lbs and be ripped. So they push the weakest compounds in the lowest doses, with the least amount of sides and dont want to hear anything different. And then there's always some rookie comming on here saying how they blew up on 100mg/wk of primo. Anyone with a decent amount of mass knows that's complete bullshit. But hey, if you want to take your little 35-40mg of var and gain 5lbs so you can look like the guy on the cover of GQ magazine, then more power to you. But for those who want to gain some real mass, then I suggest you make better bulking choices than var only cycles.

1) Everyone has different goals. I personally don't aspire to look like the guy on the cover of GQ, but I'm not trying to be Ronnie Coleman either.

2) Saying it's not a good choice based on cost is assuming money is a limiting factor for everyone, which it clearly is not. If you had said, "var is a terrible choice when considering bang for your buck" then fine, but that's different.

3) Wanting to use drugs that can provide results, while limiting side effects, seems pretty intelligent to me. You obviously don't agree.

4) 35-40mg var, lol. THIS right here is why guys bash var. We're talking about one of the, if not the, mildest anabolics out there and you're running 280mg/week? Test is more potent and you're not running 280mg test/week now are you?

It's like the guys who bash Satch for running primo because it's so weak. Yeah, it's weak if you're running 300mg/week, but he's running a gram. Use some common sense people.
 
Joe Stenson said:
1) Everyone has different goals. I personally don't aspire to look like the guy on the cover of GQ, but I'm not trying to be Ronnie Coleman either.

2) Saying it's not a good choice based on cost is assuming money is a limiting factor for everyone, which it clearly is not. If you had said, "var is a terrible choice when considering bang for your buck" then fine, but that's different.

3) Wanting to use drugs that can provide results, while limiting side effects, seems pretty intelligent to me. You obviously don't agree.

4) 35-40mg var, lol. THIS right here is why guys bash var. We're talking about one of the, if not the, mildest anabolics out there and you're running 280mg/week? Test is more potent and you're not running 280mg test/week now are you?

It's like the guys who bash Satch for running primo because it's so weak. Yeah, it's weak if you're running 300mg/week, but he's running a gram. Use some common sense people.
That's exactly what I said. You have to use too much of it to get reasonable results. Go back and re-read my post.

And as I said before. You're not trying to be huge, therefore my post will not apply to you. So keep running your var cycles.
 
Outtlaw said:
That's exactly what I said. You have to use too much of it to get reasonable results.

"Too much" by whose standards? Like I said, lots of people are not limited by money and some will prefer to pay a premium to run drugs with less sides.

Outtlaw said:
And as I said before. You're not trying to be huge, therefore my post will not apply to you. So keep running your var cycles.

"Huge" is relative. I said I don't want to look like Ronnie Coleman. I can assure you that you will never look like him either. I wouldn't mind being 5'11 230-240 10-12%...that's a pretty decent-sized guy.
 
hey you guys take this shit up in another thread, i'm sure this poor girl did not come in here to watch a pissing match....
show her some respect please...
 
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