Anavar or Winny---which is better?

[Bruce]

no not at all, what are your goals, if you just want a strength gain without puttin on mass there is nothing wrong with var by itself, it will shut you down like anything else but no major pct will be required. if you wanna put on like 10lbs its not gonna happen with var though

 

[RADAR]

RADAR, how long did you run var b4 seeing/experienceing results.

I believe it was week 4 or 5 before visible results were seen <i was running a low dosage at that time 10mg,
It seemed more prominent looking in the morror as i lifted the hardness & veins were beginning to show.


RADAR

 

[marshallmadman]

no not at all, what are your goals, if you just want a strength gain without puttin on mass there is nothing wrong with var by itself, it will shut you down like anything else but no major pct will be required. if you wanna put on like 10lbs its not gonna happen with var though

You can't come on here and say someone will or won't put on weight with their first var cycle. Come on man. Let's get real here.
Var for a first cycle would be an excellent choice. 50mg/day for 8 weeks would really make a big difference in someone's body comp. He might not put on a whole lot of weight, but if he eats right, and hits the iron hard, he will look like a completely different person after 8 weeks.
Everyone reacts differently to a broad spectrum of anabolics. Some people react well to Test/high androgens. Others respond better to more anabolic/less androgenic compounds. I am one of the latter. I get more out of Primo/Var than I do Test/Tren.

Anavar would be a great 1st cycle choice. It's probably the best. After that, jump on some test.

 

[Techbaseball]

if you wanna put on like 10lbs its not gonna happen with var though

I have read soooo much about Anavar that I think i've lost some vision out of my left eye. I have read multiple threads and articles about Anavar only cycles. It appears that results from Anavar all depends on Diet and training. If you are in the process of a bulking routine... u can expect possible lbm gains between 5-15 lbs (8 week cycle 40-60mg ed). If you using Anavar during a cutting phase.... then expect to get hard and vascular.. with possible lbm gains of 0-5 lbs.

Again.. only speaking from what I've read. Will be able to provide real life experience soon. Personally, I'm going to try to bulk from an Anavar only cycle.

--Techbaseball

 

[wayneboard1]

anavar is better hands down because it doenst give joint pain plain and simple imo. for a woman you can run 5mg of var a day and have great results so its not even a question. winny injected is just as stressful on the liver, though i know people who stay on it year round and are fine so how toxic var and winny really are is suspect to me. don't even think twice go with anavar strengthens joints and tendons while winstrol will hurt them. you don't have to run it at a high dose so the $ is not an issue like it is for us guys who need 50 or more of var daily

Good post Bruce, K to you. I wondered if there was a hardener that was easy or beneficial on the joints and now I know. However I may have to sell my truck to afford a cycle.

 

[Joe Stenson]

if you wanna put on like 10lbs its not gonna happen with var though

Would you please explain why someone eating sufficient protein and total calories could not gain 10lbs on a var-only cycle?

It's posts like this that screw people up and make them think it's the drug doing all the work. You can bulk on any steroid; you can cut on any steroid. Period.

 

[bicepts101]

You can't come on here and say someone will or won't put on weight with their first var cycle. Come on man. Let's get real here.
Var for a first cycle would be an excellent choice. 50mg/day for 8 weeks would really make a big difference in someone's body comp. He might not put on a whole lot of weight, but if he eats right, and hits the iron hard, he will look like a completely different person after 8 weeks.
Everyone reacts differently to a broad spectrum of anabolics. Some people react well to Test/high androgens. Others respond better to more anabolic/less androgenic compounds. I am one of the latter. I get more out of Primo/Var than I do Test/Tren.

Anavar would be a great 1st cycle choice. It's probably the best. After that, jump on some test.

pay attention to who the original poster is bro

 

[bicepts101]

10-15mg ed of var for a women

go to the womens forum..these guys will start shooting advise for a man

 

[Joe Stenson]

pay attention to who the original poster is bro

He was responding to this:

Good post Bruce
Would it be a bad idea for a male to run var alone on a first cycle?

 

[bicepts101]

regardless i do agree with you guys that say it is possible to gain 10b on var only....ive heard of people who have 15 on var only