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A mob of 20 kids beat man to brain death

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2Thick said:


It is like the government stealing your car when you steal something else.

No it isn't. Good try though.
 
2Thick said:


So the police seizing your car when you do something that is not related (but not legal) that is okay?

You've totally freaked out. What do cars have to do with this?
 
2Thick said:


I freak you out!!

Err...I mean, I am just saying that morally speaking, an execution is the same crime as what the defendant is being executed for.

I am saying that life in solitary would be 10x the suffering.

I am with you on the life in solitary point.
 
2Thick said:


Let me guess, you're white and middle class?

Yes, I'm one of those "evil" white people :rolleyes:

And first of all, my parents were immigrants who came to this country with no money....they worked their asses off, and my father only had an high school education and my mom dropped out of high school to take care of her brothers....they didnt use their background as an excuse to be lazy pieces of shit and be on welfare....no, they scrimped and saved and eventually opened up their own business...they are very successful and have provided EVERYTHING for me and my brother....they gave a shit about us and raised us in a GOOD, MORAL home....

if these parents didn't even care that their child wasn't in school, then guess what, they're BAD PARENTS!! Don't use this bullshit excuse of "society being to blame"...they (most of these "welfare families) have opportunities, they're just too lazy to use them!!
 
PinK233 said:
And first of all, my parents were immigrants who came to this country with no money....they worked their asses off, and my father only had an high school education and my mom dropped out of high school to take care of her brothers....they didnt use their background as an excuse to be lazy pieces of shit and be on welfare....no, they scrimped and saved and eventually opened up their own business...they are very successful and have provided EVERYTHING for me and my brother....they gave a shit about us and raised us in a GOOD, MORAL home....

And this coming from a white middle class girl. How do you know of their opportunities if you did not grow up in their neighborhoods? It is a fact that 2nd generation immigrants (such as yourself) make a greater impact than similar people that are native born. So, do you think you would be so pompous if you did not have EVERYTHING provided for you? It sounds like you were spoiled, so what would you know of physical and emotional starvation. It is easy to tell people to swim from the shore.
 
2Thick said:


The death penalty is committing the same immoral act. How can that be logical? The government is doing the same thing that they are punishing the person for.

I am interested in why you can discriminate and rationalize the fine points of why these criminals acted in such a way, i.e. environmental pressures, mob mentality, poverty, etc., yet you have no capability of discerning the huge difference between individual murder and capital punishment.

This type of moral subjectivism would place self-defense in the same catagory as murder, since the end result is a dead person.
 
2Thick said:


You missed the crux of my argument. It is homogeneity that is the reason for less gun related crimes. The more you are like a person, the less likely you will have a reason to hate them. It has nothing to do with ethnicity.

Incorrect. Your argument falls apart when you look at the statistics and see that most crime is directed upon others of the same racial/cultural background.

Culture is important, but for reasons of moral upbringing, personal accountability and family values.
 
2Thick said:


It is not an excuse for their actions. It is a reson for their action (or inaction, as the case may be).

I agree that reasons are important factors for determination of societal penalties, such as in the case of a man who kills a man who hurts a loved one vs. a man who kills a man for $10, this is why intent is extremely important in law. But "mob mentality" is not something we want to excuse for, since it could allow for thousands of occurances as long a group was involved.

Your mother should have taught you this lesson as a child, when she asked you "Would you jump off a bridge if your friend jumped off a bridge?'
 
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