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21yr old from my gym...DEAD!

Greek Freak said:
Yea, 200 lbs isnt even a monster...there were prob some recreational drugs involved too or a prexisting condition. Even so at 21 you havent even lived 1/3 of your life. I read on T-Mag a couple months ago about a top NPC new england bodybuilder who died at 23..sad to see them go so young.


Bro Im goin to have to disagree with ya if he was a ripped 5'6" at 200+ he was a freak. Take a look at priest. last contest he was at 198.

My heart goes out to his family and friends 21 is way to young to go. A friend/owner of a local gym around here died like this also. He was 26/7 and his heart exploded while in the shower. He was a very heavy user/abuser of AAS but he also did many many rec drugs.
 
you beat me to it ironkop.. at '5''6 200+ pounds, that IS indeed large and anyone who says thats not huge is completely out of touch with reality..
 
Scary shit bro, a kid I know just lost one of his best friends to a heart attack. The kid as on his 3rd cycle and supposidly didn't even abuse them. I didn't see the autopsy or anything though so maybe it wasn't even juice related but people are jumping to the conclusion that it was....either way it's a tragedy. I feel horrible for their friends and family and my prayers go out to them.
 
Fuck... I'm going on 28 and have been drinking like a fish and smoking weed amongst other things since 18, now I'm on my first cycle and my heart does seem to have wierd feelings. I hope I'm not about to die. :(
 
This is truly sad. But I will bet anyone that there were warning signs leading to this. Whether he chose to ignore them well..... My point being is that we all know the side effects of AAS, mainly high blood pressure related to increased erythropoesis, increased vascular volume, estrogenic edema etc. plus heavy work loads can lead to left ventricular hypertrophy. But these are things that you can control. I remember when I did my first cycle years ago, I hardly knew a thing about them. But one thing I found out was that they caused my BP to skyrocket. I was young and naive so I ingored it. But I became wiser through years of schooling and realized how stupid I was. I still choose to do them, but I keep things in check. Find a good doc and have a chat with him. Get your baseline lab tests and go from there, modify as needed and take precautions. After all its about longevity right? High blood pressure is a number one risk factor for heard disease (in any form) not to mention hyperlipidemia and the list goes on. But people be safe cuz I want to chat with you all for a very long time to come, even when my kids become members of this board we can all have hurah! peace
 
Very sad to Hear.

I don't hope the media runs with it but I do hope it may help more people realize that if you are going to use steroids it is wise to avoid recreational drugs, excessive drinking, and the rest of that garbage.
 
Deeply feel simpathy for his family. His father has every right to persue this, but just the same way those fat assholes couldn't sue fast food joints, then no one should be responcible for this but that young man. If anything ever happened to me...actually nothing will ever happen to me because I don't abuse anything. The only drug I consume is alcohol and that's once every month or so.
 
it definitly sucks....
but I don't think roids are the only cause of his death, maybe geneticly he was prone to have that kind of problem...
wahtever my thoughts go to his family; it's so bad to ide so young !!!
 
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