Give me one instance...

[marvelous54]

... and I'll believe. I'm debating with a poster on a different site about weight gain. He's swearing that it is possible to put on 35lbs of muscle in a year WITHOUT the use of AAS.

I would argue that it is close to impossible even with supperior AAS, supplements, diet and workout regimen.

Has anyone EVER heard or known of an instance where someone has put on 35 lbs of muscle in a year without AAS.

 

[dabuffguy]

not that I have heard of, though last november I weighed about 170-175, and now I weigh over 220

 

[Cardinal Slin]

... and I'll believe. I'm debating with a poster on a different site about weight gain. He's swearing that it is possible to put on 35lbs of muscle in a year WITHOUT the use of AAS.

I would argue that it is close to impossible even with supperior AAS, supplements, diet and workout regimen.

Has anyone EVER heard or known of an instance where someone has put on 35 lbs of muscle in a year without AAS.

Me

When I finished messing around and learned about training, resting, not drinking, diet, creatine and glutamine. It will normally only apply to those who are very new to training or have been training wrong and then bust their nut for the year.

I started out at 140lbs at almost 6 5

 

[Big_BK]

Doesnt mean its all lean mass.

 

[marvelous54]

Doesnt mean its all lean mass.

Exactly BK. THere is a big difference in putting on 35lbs and putting on 35 lbs of muscle (lean mass) BIG difference, and their is also a big diference from doing it naturally and using AAS.

 

[Cardinal Slin]

Doesn't but doesn't mean it isn't either. I started with my abs showing and I ended with my abs showing (not like 6 abs clearly defined, but still all of them visible when tensing).

And when we say 'lean' we need to really think what lean means considering that 65-75% of muscle is water.

 

[Cardinal Slin]

marvelous, no disrespect intended bro but I feel you have your mind made up already and are just trying to find a way of backing up your argument.

 

[joe d]

a lot of the high profile pro's gained like that in there first year of training and where natural. its rare but if you have the genetics it can happen.

 

[dabuffguy]

35 lean pounds naturally in 1 year is very very rare if it happens at all. That is a total extreme.

 

[02gixxersix]

I would be very surprised if someone could put on 35 lbs of solid muscle with AAS much less without it. There is going to be some bodyfat to come with it even if your percentage stayed the same.