Give me one instance...

[Cardinal Slin]

I hear you.

I gained - I had abs at the beginning, I had abs at the end. So what if it was a few lbs of fat, no one noticed it and no one thought any of my weight gain was fat.

The problem nowadays is all these kids all over the place workout for 3 mths then get tired and want to grow quicker so rather than focusing in on diet, working out, resting and so on, they decide to shoot up 1 gram of test cause everyone else is shouting how safe it is. Their diet stays the same, they continue drinking, they gain 10lbs and then they don't believe it's possible for anyone to gain 35lbs in a year naturally because they just don't get it.

It's quite a sorry state of affairs, I mean hell, I look at the photo gallery on this board and I see peeps post photos of post cycle and you wouldn't even feel they ever took steroids. I mean before pics are nothing, after pics are nothing and their excuse, they trained for a year and put 5lbs on so steroids was the way to go.

WTF, cause it's the guys who eat mcdonalds, drink 3 or 4 times a week and smoke all day long and drink carbonated drinks.

It's funny, I started off at 140, I am now 250 but very tall so it's not as noticeable as it would be on a 5 10 guy. I am also almost in to the single digit bodyfat. I've seen some people do 8 cycles and have the same stats as me (both the same height). LOL

People don't like what I am saying because they lack the required effort.

I am not speaking about TimTim but I see this shit every day on this board.

'Im 21yrs old, working out for 5 years and am 5foot 10 inches and weight 160lbs. Should I do 500mgs of test or 750mgs.'

 

[timtim]

I don't think he's calling anyone a liar but there is a truth when it comes to this kind of thing: Almost everyone underestimates the amount of bodyfat they have and overestimates the amount of lean tissue they have. You may be one of the few people that can accurately and objectively state this about yourself but most people can't - tim tim and others are just playing the odds and so am I. I don't know if 35 pounds of actual lean tissue in a year is impossible (never say impossible) but it is highly unlikely.

exactly. i put on 60 pounds during my sophomore year in college. from that i could say that there was not 20 pounds of muscle. maybe, 15. the rest was fat and water.

35 pounds of muscle, not including the fat and water in the 35 pounds of muscle, is not easily attained, if ever attained.

 

[lilj888]

i gained 30lbs in less then 5months ill let you know how i do in 7 more months

 

[mr.nitro]

... and I'll believe. I'm debating with a poster on a different site about weight gain. He's swearing that it is possible to put on 35lbs of muscle in a year WITHOUT the use of AAS.

I would argue that it is close to impossible even with supperior AAS, supplements, diet and workout regimen.

Has anyone EVER heard or known of an instance where someone has put on 35 lbs of muscle in a year without AAS.

pure muscle and not fat + muscle? I don't belive it

 

[Roc86]

@ 13 years old my parents had me on creatine ... I went from a diced 110lbs to a jacked/slightly bloated (still had abs) @ 140 lbs over the course of a Pee Wee hockey season lol.

 

[ajaygill]

i gained 30lbs in less then 5months ill let you know how i do in 7 more months

sure tell us how you did it?

 

[marvelous54]

I love how I keep getting the "I gained ?? lbs", we're not talking about just gaining lbs of weight, we're talking about gaining lbs of lean mass... there IS as HUGE difference.

 

[lilj888]

sure tell us how you did it?

uh working out, and dbols didnt hurt.

 

[lilj888]

I love how I keep getting the "I gained ?? lbs", we're not talking about just gaining lbs of weight, we're talking about gaining lbs of lean mass... there IS as HUGE difference.

i never said i gained 30lbs of pure muscle, but most of it is muscle, because im on a better diet then i was before im leaning out and adding weight. now if by the end of a year i have gained another 20lbs (and im not saying that i will and i dont want to anyway i just want another 10lbs), which would put me at 50lbs of gains, id have to say atleast 35lbs of that is muscle if i continue on with my diet.

naturally i find it very hard to put on 35lbs of muscle, but with aas i think it can be done.

when i was natural in my first year i gained around 20-25lbs

 

[chazk]

I have seen rare cases where teens are border line anorexic . They eat a doughnut for breakfast and a mountian dew for dinner weigh like 120lbs at 5'10
Then get on protien drinks and a normal diet gain 30-40lbs in a year and get up to 150-160lbs falling into the range of what a normal person looks like .