What ruins more human lives, illegal drug market, or illegal dog fighting market?

[Sub-Zero]

if dairy cows are not milked they die.. which is more cruel, supplying life or forcing death?

boxers and UFC fighters do not fight to the death and it's not unvoluntary actions, both are consenting, trained adults.

Animals that fight in nature is exactly that, nature.. They do it to survive.. These dogs on Vick's "farm" were not given a choice, they were killed if they did not chase, domesticated dogs have been domesticated for humans to adhere to their needs, hence the laws that protect domesticated animals.

its human nature to enjoy carnage and violence.

 

[timtim]

i care more about cows than dogs. i couldnt give a fuck about dogs. if this was about cat fighting or donkey fighting i wonder how many emotional irrational puppy lovers would be crying their eyes out

cats are hunters by nature and would be extremely hard pressed to be forced into a fight. they fight for other reasons. dogs are trained to fight and comply.

 

[Sub-Zero]

cats are hunters by nature and would be extremely hard pressed to be forced into a fight. they fight for other reasons. dogs are trained to fight and comply.

if they are that stupid then i doubt they realize suffering like humans do

 

[timtim]

if they are that stupid then i doubt they realize suffering like humans do

que?

 

[Sub-Zero]

que?

im saying that if dogs cant rationalize enough to know not to fight eachother, then they cant rationalize torture, and arnt truely suffering anything other than a physical response to stimulus, while fighting.

 

[layinback]

what about "puddlemonky"? homosexually gang raped a dozen times. ( strangely enough it all happened in the parking lot of leather bars in the wee hours of the morning) how about his genitalia being mutilated? and we are worried about these fucking dogs.

 

[timtim]

im saying that if dogs cant rationalize enough to know not to fight eachother, then they cant rationalize torture, and arnt truely suffering anything other than a physical response to stimulus, while fighting.

they are forced to fight, hence the training. like the hygogie (sp?) - the spartan 300 soldiers - forced to fight or die. dogs recognize torture sub. why you think their tails drop between their legs? its fear of the pain.

 

[Bikini Mod]

its human nature to enjoy carnage and violence.

That is only true of SOME humans.

I dont think that necessarily qualifies to say that it is then "human nature".

 

[crazyjoe]

what about "puddlemonky"? homosexually gang raped a dozen times. ( strangely enough it all happened in the parking lot of leather bars in the wee hours of the morning) how about his genitalia being mutilated? and we are worried about these fucking dogs.

Ahh...yes very good point. His genitals are definitely mutilated beyond repair. In fact I don't think there is anything left down there at all. Its just an empty patch of scar tissue with a few pubes here and there, looking much like a stomped out garbage fire in his crotchal region.

 

[Sub-Zero]

they are forced to fight, hence the training. like the hygogie (sp?) - the spartan 300 soldiers - forced to fight or die. dogs recognize torture sub. why you think their tails drop between their legs? its fear of the pain.

rolley poleys (pillbugs) curl up into a ball when little kids play with them, but i still fucking killed those things in packs.

i bet you step on millions of bugs that similarly respond to a threat, and dont even think twice.

how many spiders have you killed in your house? those things are smart as fuck