vascularity/strength cycle

[P4D2A022]

I'd stay away from winny, it'll give you vascularity but it's too dangerous to do strength training on it. Stick to something that won't dry up joints.

yes, but there ae many supplements to help with your joints bro. cissus q. for example

 

[Nelson Montana]

yes, but there ae many supplements to help with your joints bro. cissus q. for example

Cissus q doesn't really do anything to heal joints. It merely reduces inflammation. So will aspirin.

 

[the_alcatraz]

I've yet to find a steroid that DIDN'T increase strength!

And VIGOR is the only supplement I've known to increase vascularity.http://proteinfactory.com/shop/product.php?productid=918&cat=0&page=1

considering you have low enough BF% and genetically you got not very thick skin

 

[P4D2A022]

well ive talked to ppl who run cissus q while running winny and they love it. these are the guys that run 100mg/ed

 

[P4D2A022]

JSTAR - Where ya at bro

 

[bigjd69]

Low bodyfat levels and Genetics

 

[Nelson Montana]

considering you have low enough BF% and genetically you got not very thick skin

Both factors for sure, but VIGOR will help to bring it out.

I didn;t say cq didn;t help or people didn't get relief from it. I was just stating the pathway by which it worked.

 

[the_alcatraz]

Both factors for sure, but VIGOR will help to bring it out.

I didn;t say cq didn;t help or people didn't get relief from it. I was just stating the pathway by which it worked.

Good stuff!

 

[ALIN]

I am in my mid forties, wiegh 218, bf around 15%. I want to do a third cycle focusing on vascularity,muscular hardness,strength. i have been training for 3 years seriously. My first cycle was sus 500 ew, (10wks) deca 600 (10wks), dbol 30 ed first and last 4 weeks. My second cycle was 750 test e, 600 eq, 40 dbol last 4 weeks (went 14 weeks with a two week break with HCG.

I looked the most vascular at 212. Id like to beat that by 5-7 lbs and keep my dead over 405 x 5, bench 265 x 5, squat 275 x 5. What thinks yee about 15 weeks eq 600, test E 500, Deca 400? Maybe cut the deca the last 2 weeks and do 60mg dbol.

Also by mainetence calories are 2400 a day (not including exercise). Any diet suggestions.

I almost forgot i am doing a 5x5 routine Squat/squat/row 3xwk, dead 1x week, accessory work on arms and midsection 2x week. Also i do 3 sets of farmers walks with 125lb dumbells 3xweek (heaviest dumbells in the gym)

TEST E, ANAVAR, EQ and possibly some MASTERON when your BF% hits single digits

 

[timtim]

thats way too much gear for someone with your weight and numbers. 3rd cycle and 1.5 grams total. ridiculous. either you dont know how to train or your diet is off and by saying you want vascularity from drugs, come on. drop the bf and its pretty easy to have ropes and cables all over. you could do way less gear and get the same results.