Planning next cycle

Rebird · 2026-09-29T09:51:42-0400

Hey guys, planning my next cycle and could use some advice. Bio first: 58 yo, 5' 11" and 180 pounds at 14-15% BF. Last cycle was 420 Test C and 30 EQ (just as an ai) per week, split by 3 shots per week. Sensitive E2 stayed in the 25-31 range. Felt great during cycle and put on about 6 pounds (lots of water) by the end of the 13 week cycle but BF increased to about 16-17%. The water dropped off quickly after cycle so I ended up adding about 2 pounds of muscle... which I am happy with. Question on my next cycle: If I keep Test C at 420mg and run Primo at 200mg (or recommended mg) per week for 16 weeks, will the water retention decrease over my previous cycle? I would prefer to gain muscle slowly than to look sloppy on the beach, lol. Thanks for any help guys! p.s.... posing for my wife at the beach, lol.

the_alcatraz · 2026-09-29T20:19:41-0400

Rebird said:
Hey guys, planning my next cycle and could use some advice. Bio first: 58 yo, 5' 11" and 180 pounds at 14-15% BF. Last cycle was 420 Test C and 30 EQ (just as an ai) per week, split by 3 shots per week. Sensitive E2 stayed in the 25-31 range. Felt great during cycle and put on about 6 pounds (lots of water) by the end of the 13 week cycle but BF increased to about 16-17%. The water dropped off quickly after cycle so I ended up adding about 2 pounds of muscle... which I am happy with. Question on my next cycle: If I keep Test C at 420mg and run Primo at 200mg (or recommended mg) per week for 16 weeks, will the water retention decrease over my previous cycle? I would prefer to gain muscle slowly than to look sloppy on the beach, lol. Thanks for any help guys! p.s.... posing for my wife at the beach, lol.

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SteveMobsterG · 2026-09-30T03:12:24-0400

Given the water maybe EQ wasn't as effective as it ought to have been. Primo is more of a 'muscle keeper' (esp so at low doses). Maybe look at Var