you're the second guy I've seen that said that they got great results on Primo might have to try that one again
While I want to run a Tren e cyclenice job man you're definitely in top shape
if you put on five or ten pounds of clean muscle mass you will look sick
I am leaning towards EQ and Test C unless running e has a benefit other than the half life. Like Ulter pointed out, that Tren E cycle seems to be good when I hit a wall I cannot overcome, am I correct in my thinking?EQ and test work good together
I feel like running primo allows me to push my reps and sets noticeably harder, I also recover differently, much better than running deca and without the bloat from the deca. I will be running primo all over again in 2024 with Var, truly amazing combination.you're the second guy I've seen that said that they got great results on Primo might have to try that one again
I noticed the same with primo I felt very Machine like and things for easier alot faster so I had to keep pushing the barI feel like running primo allows me to push my reps and sets noticeably harder, I also recover differently, much better than running deca and without the bloat from the deca. I will be running primo all over again in 2024 with Var, truly amazing combination.
Primo is slept on by alot of more aas experienced users I feel because they use compounds that are much stronger so they don't see the benefits in Primo, for someone like man05 and myself being newer users Primo is a perfect compliment when combined with other less potent aas, I put on 10lbs clean with my Primo cycle with low test back in october with low test , it has its place for people wanting to get into aas and starting in the shallow end of the pool.you're the second guy I've seen that said that they got great results on Primo might have to try that one again
Well said Noah.Primo is slept on by alot of more aas experienced users I feel because they use compounds that are much stronger so they don't see the benefits in Primo, for someone like man05 and myself being newer users Primo is a perfect compliment when combined with other less potent aas, I put on 10lbs clean with my Primo cycle with low test back in october with low test , it has its place for people wanting to get into aas and starting in the shallow end of the pool.
1/1/24 | Protein | 70 | 60 | 60 | 65 | 50 | 50 | 355 | |||
| Fat | 3 | 50 | 2 | 5 | 4 | 20 | 84 | ||||
| Carbs | 30 | 24 | 12 | 20 | 10 | 12 | 108 | ||||
| Whey isolate- egg whites | 6 whole eggs, turkey sausage, 1/4C Italian shredded cheese, 1/4C oatmeal, 1/3C whole walnuts, 1tsp clover honey | Whey isolate shake with non fat milk and water | 8oz grilled chicken and 1/4 cup sweet potato | Casein shake with water | Whole yogurt with walnuts |
1/1/24 | Flat BB bench | 3x6/ 3x20 | 225/ 185 |
| Incline DB bench | 3x6/ 3x30 | 70/ (45each) | |
| Flat DB bench | 3x6/3x25 | 85/65 | |
| Incline BB bench | 3x6/ 3x20 | 155/135 | |
| Upright DB raise - supinated | 3x6/ 3x30 | 15/10 | |
| Standing side deltoid raise w/ 15sec pause after rep 1 | 3x6/3x30 | 15/10 | |
| Rear deltoid supinated raises | 3x6/3x25 | 35/25 | |
| Face Pull | 3x6/2x30,1x25 | 30/20 | |
| Front deltoid raises standing | 3x6/3x30 | 20/10 | |
| One arm dumbbell press | 3x6/2x20 | 20/15 |
@man05 diet still strong and i see 5 weeks primo make it 12 not 8 forget 8Todays push workout with jet lag, tired and thirsty for some reason.
Todays macros:
1/1/24Protein 70 60 60 65 50 50 355Fat 3 50 2 5 4 20 84Carbs 30 24 12 20 10 12 108Whey isolate- egg whites 6 whole eggs, turkey sausage, 1/4C Italian shredded cheese, 1/4C oatmeal, 1/3C whole walnuts, 1tsp clover honey Whey isolate shake with non fat milk and water 8oz grilled chicken and 1/4 cup sweet potato Casein shake with water Whole yogurt with walnuts
Weights: felt good to be back on my own equipment again.
1/1/24Flat BB bench 3x6/ 3x20 225/ 185 Incline DB bench 3x6/ 3x30 70/ (45each) Flat DB bench 3x6/3x25 85/65 Incline BB bench 3x6/ 3x20 155/135 Upright DB raise - supinated 3x6/ 3x30 15/10 Standing side deltoid raise w/ 15sec pause after rep 1 3x6/3x30 15/10 Rear deltoid supinated raises 3x6/3x25 35/25 Face Pull 3x6/2x30,1x25 30/20 Front deltoid raises standing 3x6/3x30 20/10 One arm dumbbell press 3x6/2x20 20/15
I am ending week 5 on primo, can I run this cutting cycle for 8 weeks before I taper off?
This cutter has been fantastic, really enjoying it.
Thank you all for your suggestions and feedback.
Mark
good updateDon’t laugh, my poses suck, I will practice these going forward. Overall I recomped okay, got leaner, gained some definition and muscle. But overall it’s not where I want to be. I’ve been reading a ton on Physique class and that’s a direction I’d like to possibly pursue given my frame and genetics. My chest is weak as piss and my back needs to grow more, it all needs to grow( diet( Whole Foods, way less shake), training I need better methodology and when to tweak sets/ reps, smart cycles( this was my first complete cycle bulk and cut) cutting by far is so rewarding for me, so challenging. Overall I’ll give myself a pass not a high pass but passable( not where I want to be). Massive thank yous to each and everyone of you guys for pushing, encouraging and helping me press on. I look forward to 2024 and doing all over again.
I had a hard time flexing quads still swollen from yesterday.
I will update Monday after I do push routine.
Happy new years
Mark
You think keep test 300 or drop some to stay more dry? What’s max length on var ?@man05 diet still strong and i see 5 weeks primo make it 12 not 8 forget 8
@man05 I think 300mgs is fine dont drop, and anavar 50mgs ed if you go high 8 weeks is fine with n2guard organ supportYou think keep test 300 or drop some to stay more dry? What’s max length on var ?
I have enough but have never run an oral more than a month really.
1/3/2024 | Protein | 50 | 50 | 75 | 45 | 65 | 75 | 360 | |||
| Fat | 25 | 50 | 5 | 8 | 10 | 5 | 103 | ||||
| Carbs | 22 | 8 | 8 | 28 | 25 | 8 | 99 | ||||
| 5 whole eggs, 1/3 C oatmeal | Shake | Egg white shake with whey | Grilled chickenwrap | Ground Turkey and sweet potatoe (1/2) | Egg white shake and whey |
1/3/2024 | Front squats with wedge - excellent form | 3x20 | 135lbs | Back on track feeling rested |
| Back Squats | 4x6/4x20 | 250/ 185 | ||
| Sumo Squat BB | 3x6/3x25 | 250/185 | ||
| Single leg RDL | 3x25 | 45lb DB | ||
| Glute bridge raise with 35lb plate in my lap | 3x30 | 135lbs | ||
| Calf raise with barbell | 4x30 | 205lbs | ||
| Walking body weight lunges in cold weather | 3x40 | 210 bodyweight |
@man05 n2guard is right Mark smart move and n2slin before meals is perfect keep doing itTodays workout was back on track, yesterdays meals and weights were crap, very jet lagged and tired. Felt much better today.
Getting the hang of front squats with crossed arms, I think I can learn to push this some as I gradually build up, today I felt a little weaker during back squats I think from taxing new muscles. Does anyone advise on a Kabuki safety squat bar over a regular safety squat bar? I can pick up a blemished one for cheap if I move soon.
Here are todays meals, getting back on track, feel like dirt eating shakes after eating more whole foods, time to bust out the Instapot.
Any thoughts on Meso cycles? I am reading alot on the mixture of legs and shoulders and arms through out the week instead of saturating each muscle group during a 2 day split, curious to hear how that worked for some of you. I really feel like I need to take a break form the 2 day split.
Meals:
1/3/2024Protein 50 50 75 45 65 75 360Fat 25 50 5 8 10 5 103Carbs 22 8 8 28 25 8 995 whole eggs, 1/3 C oatmeal Shake Egg white shake with whey Grilled chickenwrap Ground Turkey and sweet potatoe (1/2) Egg white shake and whey
Weights:
1/3/2024Front squats with wedge - excellent form 3x20 135lbs Back on track feeling rested Back Squats 4x6/4x20 250/ 185 Sumo Squat BB 3x6/3x25 250/185 Single leg RDL 3x25 45lb DB Glute bridge raise with 35lb plate in my lap 3x30 135lbs Calf raise with barbell 4x30 205lbs Walking body weight lunges in cold weather 3x40 210 bodyweight
I will update tomorrow with my push routine.
During this cutter I am on N2Guard, 5-6Mg Omega 3, daily multivitamin mixed with the Var, Primo and Test, anything else I should consider for optimal well being? TheN2Slin is a potent mix that removes all hunger, one capsule is enough for me.
Thanks you guys for the help.
Mark
I’ve been walking 25-30 minutes and a moderate pace about 3-4 times per week.@man05 n2guard is right Mark smart move and n2slin before meals is perfect keep doing it
rest is good training on point but make sure cardio is up
Nope. I do that 2x a day EVERY day. Inc non training. My minimum is 6000 a day. Walked that before lunch to day (walked to the gym, up Moel Penderyn and a supermarket after - the hill had me sweating all the way up)I’ve been walking 25-30 minutes and a moderate pace about 3-4 times per week.
That sound about right?
| Monday | Barebell Squat |
| Walking lunges | |
| Barbell Good morning | |
| Dumbell Lateral raise | |
| Barebell Calf Raise | |
| Hanging straight leg raise | |
| Tuesday | Bench Press Medium grip |
| Dumbell press flat | |
| Dumbell Skullcrusher | |
| Dumbbell Facepull | |
| Dumbbell curl alternating | |
| Wednesday | Barebell Bent Over Row |
| Chest Supported Row | |
| Dumbell Row single arm | |
| Dumbell front raise | |
| Barbell shrug | |
| Hammer Curl | |
| Thursday | Front Squat |
| Dumbbell stiff leg deadlift | |
| Barbell Squat (high) | |
| Stair Calves | |
| Hanging knee raise | |
| Friday | Bench Press cambered bar |
| Bench press incline narrow grip | |
| JM Press | |
| Dip Weighted | |
| Barbell Upright row | |
| Barbell Facepull | |
| Dumbbell Curl Incline |
great update right hereTodays workout was back on track, yesterdays meals and weights were crap, very jet lagged and tired. Felt much better today.
Getting the hang of front squats with crossed arms, I think I can learn to push this some as I gradually build up, today I felt a little weaker during back squats I think from taxing new muscles. Does anyone advise on a Kabuki safety squat bar over a regular safety squat bar? I can pick up a blemished one for cheap if I move soon.
Here are todays meals, getting back on track, feel like dirt eating shakes after eating more whole foods, time to bust out the Instapot.
Any thoughts on Meso cycles? I am reading alot on the mixture of legs and shoulders and arms through out the week instead of saturating each muscle group during a 2 day split, curious to hear how that worked for some of you. I really feel like I need to take a break form the 2 day split.
Meals:
1/3/2024Protein 50 50 75 45 65 75 360Fat 25 50 5 8 10 5 103Carbs 22 8 8 28 25 8 995 whole eggs, 1/3 C oatmeal Shake Egg white shake with whey Grilled chickenwrap Ground Turkey and sweet potatoe (1/2) Egg white shake and whey
Weights:
1/3/2024Front squats with wedge - excellent form 3x20 135lbs Back on track feeling rested Back Squats 4x6/4x20 250/ 185 Sumo Squat BB 3x6/3x25 250/185 Single leg RDL 3x25 45lb DB Glute bridge raise with 35lb plate in my lap 3x30 135lbs Calf raise with barbell 4x30 205lbs Walking body weight lunges in cold weather 3x40 210 bodyweight
I will update tomorrow with my push routine.
During this cutter I am on N2Guard, 5-6Mg Omega 3, daily multivitamin mixed with the Var, Primo and Test, anything else I should consider for optimal well being? TheN2Slin is a potent mix that removes all hunger, one capsule is enough for me.
Thanks you guys for the help.
Mark
1/5/2024 | Protein | 50 | 25 | 50 | 65 | 45 | 45 | 60 | 50 | 390 | |
| Fat | 18 | 2 | 3 | 15 | 10 | 10 | 5 | 9 | 72 | ||
| Carbs | 30 | 36 | 6 | 28 | 10 | 10 | 0 | 10 | 130 | ||
| Yogurt, bowl of oats with walnuts and cherries. | PRE - Isolate shake, cream of rice with cherries and almond milk. | Cassein shake POST | 8oz chicken, 1/2 cup brown rice and qunoa | Homemade turkey chili with some hot sauce and shredded cheese | Homemade turkey chili with some hot sauce and shredded cheese | Grilled chicken and bbq sauce with vinegar | 2 cups whole yogurt |
1/5/2024 | Bent over supinated row | 3x6/3x20 | 60lbs/ 45lbs |
| Single arm DB rows | 3x6/3x30 | 80lbs/ 55lbs | |
| DB pullover | 3x6/3x25 | 70lbs/55lbs | |
| Shrugs | 3x6/3x20 | 250/ 215 | |
| Standing DB Upright row | 3x6/3x30 | 25/ 15 | |
| V-Taper row | 3x6/3x20 | 60lbs/ 45lbs | |
| Tricep Kickbacks | 3x6/3x25 | 40lbs/30lbs | |
| Hammer curl sideways | 3x6/3x30 | 40lbs/30lbs | |
| Skull crushers | 3x6/3x30 | 35lbs/25lbs | |
| Seated hammer curls 45 degrees | 3x6/3x30 | 35lbs/25lbs | |
| Reverse grip straight bar | 3x30 | 40lbs | |
| Zottman curl | 3x6/3x20 | 25lbs/15lbs | |
| Forearm Curls | 3x6/3x30 | 30lbs/25lbs | |
| DB Curls – Standing | 2x50 | 20lb each/15lbs( too swollen to really curl, arms were super tight) |
@man05 good weights i like the skull crushers but you need to up the setsTodays Pull session went fairly well, pulled heavy then pulled for slow high volume reps.
What do you guys things about the Meso cycle idea mixing body parts? I really need to switch deltoids and chest before its a problem, not sure how best to do that. If I stick push, pull, legs go Chest and arms? then Pull Back and shoulders followed by legs?
Todays Meals:
1/5/2024Protein 50 25 50 65 45 45 60 50 390Fat 18 2 3 15 10 10 5 9 72Carbs 30 36 6 28 10 10 0 10 130Yogurt, bowl of oats with walnuts and cherries. PRE - Isolate shake, cream of rice with cherries and almond milk. Cassein shake POST 8oz chicken, 1/2 cup brown rice and qunoa Homemade turkey chili with some hot sauce and shredded cheese Homemade turkey chili with some hot sauce and shredded cheese Grilled chicken and bbq sauce with vinegar 2 cups whole yogurt
Todays weights
1/5/2024Bent over supinated row 3x6/3x20 60lbs/ 45lbs Single arm DB rows 3x6/3x30 80lbs/ 55lbs DB pullover 3x6/3x25 70lbs/55lbs Shrugs 3x6/3x20 250/ 215 Standing DB Upright row 3x6/3x30 25/ 15 V-Taper row 3x6/3x20 60lbs/ 45lbs Tricep Kickbacks 3x6/3x25 40lbs/30lbs Hammer curl sideways 3x6/3x30 40lbs/30lbs Skull crushers 3x6/3x30 35lbs/25lbs Seated hammer curls 45 degrees 3x6/3x30 35lbs/25lbs Reverse grip straight bar 3x30 40lbs Zottman curl 3x6/3x20 25lbs/15lbs Forearm Curls 3x6/3x30 30lbs/25lbs DB Curls – Standing 2x50 20lb each/15lbs( too swollen to really curl, arms were super tight)
If I don't hear back about direction on a workout split change I will just beat the hell out of my legs tomorrow, I think I'm ready to push more on the front squats, such and awesome movement/ And I went ahead and ordered the blemished Kabuki safety bar.
Later guys, chat with y'all tomorrow.
Mark
So five sets per exercise with the high / low weight combination? Should drop an exercise of each body part? I’m nearing 20-25 sets per exercise on some. Any ideas on splitting arms to chest and shoulders to back, would that work to balance out deltoids from being over worked?@man05 good weights i like the skull crushers but you need to up the sets
1/6/2024 | Front squats with wedge - excellent form | 3x20 | 135lbs |
| Back Squats | 5x8/5x20 | 265/ 185 | |
| Sumo Squat BB | 4x6/4x25 | 250/185 | |
| Single leg RDL | 4x25 | 45lb DB | |
| Glute bridge raise with 35lb plate in my lap | 4x30 | 155lbs | |
| Calf raise with barbell | 4x10/4x30 | 205/185lbs | |
| Walking body weight lunges | 3x40 (20 per leg) | 210 bodyweight |
1/6/2024 | Protein | 40 | 45 | 55 | 60 | 60 | 40 | 70 | 30 | 400 | |
| Fat | 6 | 10 | 12 | 3 | 15 | 8 | 10 | 9 | 73 | ||
| Carbs | 15 | 10 | 30 | 6 | 18 | 20 | 20 | 10 | 129 | ||
| Yogurt and fruit | Homemade turkey chili with some hot sauce and shredded cheese | Whey isolate shake and half Turkey sandwhich | Cassein shake POST | Grilld flank steak and steamed carrots | grilld flank steak and pineapple | Fresh fruit yogurt and whey smoothie | cup of high protein yogurt and a anavar, forgot to take earlier |
@man05 2024 you want to peak some bulking sureWorked legs well today, I am exhausted and ready to sleep, day off tomorrow.
Weights:
1/6/2024Front squats with wedge - excellent form 3x20 135lbs Back Squats 5x8/5x20 265/ 185 Sumo Squat BB 4x6/4x25 250/185 Single leg RDL 4x25 45lb DB Glute bridge raise with 35lb plate in my lap 4x30 155lbs Calf raise with barbell 4x10/4x30 205/185lbs Walking body weight lunges 3x40 (20 per leg) 210 bodyweight
Meals:
1/6/2024Protein 40 45 55 60 60 40 70 30 400Fat 6 10 12 3 15 8 10 9 73Carbs 15 10 30 6 18 20 20 10 129Yogurt and fruit Homemade turkey chili with some hot sauce and shredded cheese Whey isolate shake and half Turkey sandwhich Cassein shake POST Grilld flank steak and steamed carrots grilld flank steak and pineapple Fresh fruit yogurt and whey smoothie cup of high protein yogurt and a anavar, forgot to take earlier
Tomorrow is a rest day, I am going to plan my first meso cycle to start after this cutter ends.
IF anyone has suggestions of adding more exercises or simply to increase volume and down sets please let me know.
I really want to have a solid 2024 and pack on some lean mass, really looking at Test/ EQ as a next cycle once bloods clear in a few months.
Goals are to eat more food and less shakes, more fruit and vegetables, train harder but smarter with program layout. Do any of yuou guys do training or advisory work?
Thank you all
mark
Every other day thing for meBros I wouldn't overtrain too much but what you can do is add a couple sets of ab exercises
What is optimal ratio for lean bulk test c/eq?@man05 2024 you want to peak some bulking sure
but listen dont worry about the less shakes issues, drink shakes eat bars and enjoy the growth
i would wait for 8 weeks before test eq push
and so far you're doing really well on the training and carbs low , get carbs under 100 grams to cut
I’ve been trying to do hanging work one day then ground work the other day.Bros I wouldn't overtrain too much but what you can do is add a couple sets of ab exercises
Too much? Front squats are humbling me.That's a lot of squat volume
I will do a few walking sets before squats on Wednesday as a warm up, thank you.my suggestion is maybe starting off your leg day with some lunges
Next time, it’s goneany chance of getting some pictures of your grilled steak
1/8/2024 | Protein | 70 | 20 | 60 | 55 | 15 | 65 | 70 | 35 | 390 | |
| Fat | 10 | 2 | 5 | 5 | 14 | 8 | 15 | 5 | 64 | ||
| Carbs | 5 | 24 | 15 | 24 | 14 | 12 | 10 | 0 | 104 | ||
| Shake with soy and whey protein with fruit | rice krispies and banana - pre workout | Naked whey shake with strawberries and almond milk | Grilled chicken a nd white rice | outright bar as a snack | 3/4 cup ground turkey with homemade tomato sauce, 4 oz beef leftover and 3 oz leftover chicken. | Naked Whey and almond butter smoothie | Steamed chicken plain about 4.5oz |
| Flat BB bench | 4x6/ 4x20 | 225/ 185 | Tired from this | 225,225,215,205 | |
| Incline BB bench | 4x6/ 4x20 | 155/135 | |||
| Close grip BB bench | 4x6/ 4x18-20 | 185/165 | |||
| Upright DB raise - supinated | 3x10/ 3x20 | 15/10 | |||
| DB pullover | 3x6/3x25 | 70lbs/ 1x85lbs | Better on chest than on Pull , better feeling today, good stretch, very deep. | ||
| Tricep press barbell | 3x20 | 135lbs | Form needs a little work, may drop lb's to focus on that movement | ||
| Skull crushers | 4x6/4x20, 17,16, 16 | 40lbs/30lbs | |||
| Tricep Kickbacks | 4x6/4x20,18,15,14 | 35lbs/25lbs | pretty tired | ||
| Standing side deltoid raise w/ 15sec pause after rep 1 | 3*25 | 5lbs | nice and slow half reps | ||
| Rear deltoid supinated raises | 3x20 | 20lbs | |||
| Front deltoid raises standing | 3x30 | - | skipped these since I pressed so much |
@man05 thats smart do TKD with carbs around training and push harderPush went well today, focused scapula retraction of pressing lats down flat to help better form on presses.
Removed Bicep's from this Push and adding to tomorrows pull, doing so has allowed me to push harder and more weight with better form focusing on triceps only.
Meals:
1/8/2024Protein 70 20 60 55 15 65 70 35 390Fat 10 2 5 5 14 8 15 5 64Carbs 5 24 15 24 14 12 10 0 104Shake with soy and whey protein with fruit rice krispies and banana - pre workout Naked whey shake with strawberries and almond milk Grilled chicken a nd white rice outright bar as a snack 3/4 cup ground turkey with homemade tomato sauce, 4 oz beef leftover and 3 oz leftover chicken. Naked Whey and almond butter smoothie Steamed chicken plain about 4.5oz
Here are my weights, guess I wills tick with push, pull, legs this cycle then consider the meso cyles for Test/EQ run once i get specifics and dosages dialed in.
Flat BB bench 4x6/ 4x20 225/ 185 Tired from this 225,225,215,205 Incline BB bench 4x6/ 4x20 155/135 Close grip BB bench 4x6/ 4x18-20 185/165 Upright DB raise - supinated 3x10/ 3x20 15/10 DB pullover 3x6/3x25 70lbs/ 1x85lbs Better on chest than on Pull , better feeling today, good stretch, very deep. Tricep press barbell 3x20 135lbs Form needs a little work, may drop lb's to focus on that movement Skull crushers 4x6/4x20, 17,16, 16 40lbs/30lbs Tricep Kickbacks 4x6/4x20,18,15,14 35lbs/25lbs pretty tired Standing side deltoid raise w/ 15sec pause after rep 1 3*25 5lbs nice and slow half reps Rear deltoid supinated raises 3x20 20lbs Front deltoid raises standing 3x30 - skipped these since I pressed so much
I will update tomorrow after I complete push. Going to try to split carbs between pre workout and post workout, 40 grams rice cereal/ 40 grams white rice post workout with chicken thighs.
Have a great night guys
Mark
great workout here and update I really like itWorked legs well today, I am exhausted and ready to sleep, day off tomorrow.
Weights:
1/6/2024Front squats with wedge - excellent form 3x20 135lbs Back Squats 5x8/5x20 265/ 185 Sumo Squat BB 4x6/4x25 250/185 Single leg RDL 4x25 45lb DB Glute bridge raise with 35lb plate in my lap 4x30 155lbs Calf raise with barbell 4x10/4x30 205/185lbs Walking body weight lunges 3x40 (20 per leg) 210 bodyweight
Meals:
1/6/2024Protein 40 45 55 60 60 40 70 30 400Fat 6 10 12 3 15 8 10 9 73Carbs 15 10 30 6 18 20 20 10 129Yogurt and fruit Homemade turkey chili with some hot sauce and shredded cheese Whey isolate shake and half Turkey sandwhich Cassein shake POST Grilld flank steak and steamed carrots grilld flank steak and pineapple Fresh fruit yogurt and whey smoothie cup of high protein yogurt and a anavar, forgot to take earlier
Tomorrow is a rest day, I am going to plan my first meso cycle to start after this cutter ends.
IF anyone has suggestions of adding more exercises or simply to increase volume and down sets please let me know.
I really want to have a solid 2024 and pack on some lean mass, really looking at Test/ EQ as a next cycle once bloods clear in a few months.
Goals are to eat more food and less shakes, more fruit and vegetables, train harder but smarter with program layout. Do any of yuou guys do training or advisory work?
Thank you all
mark
1/9/2024 | Protein | 70 | 60 | 55 | 15 | 55 | 70 | 30 | 355 | ||
| Fat | 10 | 5 | 5 | 14 | 5 | 15 | 10 | 64 | |||
| Carbs | 5 | 15 | 24 | 14 | 24 | 10 | 8 | 100 | |||
| Shake with soy and whey protein with fruit | Naked whey shake with strawberries and almond milk | stewed chicken and white rice | outright bar as a snack | stewed chicken and white rice | Naked Whey and almond butter smoothie | Baked chicken pieces |
| Bent over row | 4x20 | 155lb | I can go heavier, Thursday I will do 185lbs. | |
| Single arm DB rows | 4x8/4x15 | 85lbs/ 65lbs | ||
| V-Taper row | 4x9/4x15 | 50lbs/ 40lbs | Will jump to 65/ 55lbs Thursday | |
| Shrugs | 4x8/4x20 | 275/ 225 | Feels about right. | |
| Standing DB Upright row | 4x6/4x30 | 30/20lbs | ||
| Hammer curl sideways | 4x6/4x20 | 45lbs/35lbs | These were tough | |
| Seated hammer curls 45 degrees | 4x6/4x20 | 35lbs/25lbs | Feels about about right, maybe 40/30 Thursday. | |
| Reverse grip straight bar | 3x30 | 40lbs | ||
| Zottman curl | 3x6/3x15 | 25lbs/15lbs | Destroyed arms | |
| DB Curls – Standing | 2x50 | 20lb each/15lbs | shaking, last set arms were so swollen could barely doa single curl. |
@man05 if you want meso cycles thats up or downPull set went well, some adjustments made, I really prefer splitting arms up now between push and pull.
Question: Is leg volume to high? Should I drop an exercise and increase sets? 4 - 5 sets of 8 heavy then 15-20 lighter for squat movements?
Here is todays meals:
1/9/2024Protein 70 60 55 15 55 70 30 355Fat 10 5 5 14 5 15 10 64Carbs 5 15 24 14 24 10 8 100Shake with soy and whey protein with fruit Naked whey shake with strawberries and almond milk stewed chicken and white rice outright bar as a snack stewed chicken and white rice Naked Whey and almond butter smoothie Baked chicken pieces
Here are todays weights:
No matter what set or rep I do, I can never win, I am a gluten for punishment, mathematically I will never win the battle but don't tell my feeble mind that, I just keep going. Any feedback on Meso cycles for hypertrophic training, I notice many IBBF guys run these sort of programs, what are the drawbacks if any in your eyes? I am questioning this format for a EQ/Test cycle down the road.
Bent over row 4x20 155lb I can go heavier, Thursday I will do 185lbs. Single arm DB rows 4x8/4x15 85lbs/ 65lbs V-Taper row 4x9/4x15 50lbs/ 40lbs Will jump to 65/ 55lbs Thursday Shrugs 4x8/4x20 275/ 225 Feels about right. Standing DB Upright row 4x6/4x30 30/20lbs Hammer curl sideways 4x6/4x20 45lbs/35lbs These were tough Seated hammer curls 45 degrees 4x6/4x20 35lbs/25lbs Feels about about right, maybe 40/30 Thursday. Reverse grip straight bar 3x30 40lbs Zottman curl 3x6/3x15 25lbs/15lbs Destroyed arms DB Curls – Standing 2x50 20lb each/15lbs shaking, last set arms were so swollen could barely doa single curl.
Thanks guys
Mark
Thursday I will do bent over rows @200, I can do it.mobster is being hard on everybody today but take it as something to motivate you
Very much so, eating is getting easier now as well. The insta pot cooks great tasting meals quickly and I’m able to cook more in bulk to store in the fridge. I enjoy shakes and my egg whites but nothing tastes better than rice and steamed chicken thigh's with a little homemade bbq sauce and vegetables on the side. All the fat from thighs is removed once you steam it.sounds like you are really enjoying this
Very much so, eating is getting easier now as well. The insta pot cooks great tasting meals quickly and I’m able to cook more in bulk to store in the fridge. I enjoy shakes and my egg whites but nothing tastes better than rice and steamed chicken thigh's with a little homemade bbq sauce and vegetables on the side. All the fat from thighs is removed once you steam it.sounds like you are really enjoying this
1/10/2024 | Protein | 70 | 30 | 70 | 70 | 70 | 70 | 380 | |||
| Fat | 30 | 5 | 12 | 18 | 12 | 4 | 81 | ||||
| Carbs | 24 | 8 | 26 | 15 | 14 | 8 | 95 | ||||
| Scrambled eggs, pinch of cheese, whey shake, walnuts and dried cherries in 1/4Cup of oatmeal | Recovery whey isolate shake | 1/3 Cup White rice steamed with 11 oz of stemaed Chicken thighs and 2 Tbsp of bbw sauce shredded. | Whole fat yogurt and whey with almond milk shake with fresh strawberries | 1/4 cup of white rice with 110z chicken thighs steamed and BBQ sauce and hot pepper with onions. | Egg white and Whey shake |
1/10/2024 | Walking body weight lunges as warm up | 2x40 | 210 bodyweight | These really woke up my legs | |
| Front squats with wedge - excellent form | 3x20 | 115lbs | |||
| Back Squats | 4x8/4x20 | 275/ 225 | Felt strong on the heavy sets but wobbly on lighter sets, last set was fatiguing. | I would rep 8, then drop 50lbs and push more. I want another barbell setup with the heavy weight so I can just move between them, one off the front of the rack and one inside. | |
| Sumo Squat BB | 4x6/4x15 | 225/185 | Pretty sore doing these. | ||
| Barbell RDL | 4x20 | 185lbs | Was fading here | Strong core, nice hinge movement and plates 2" off the floor. | |
| Glute bridge raise with 35lb plate in my lap | 4x30 | 155lbs | Easy and slow contractions | ||
| Calf raise with barbell | 4x10/4x30 | 205lbs/185lbs | Felt pretty good | ||
| High rep 135 squats @50 | 50 reps | 135lbs | I could really feel these today. |
@man05 tomorrow is push thats the bestGood leg session today, walking lunges before squats helped and then it hurt more
RDLs on the bar felt pretty good, will bump to 225 Saturday and shoot for 4x15-18 range.
Here are the meals: Crazy thing is when I drink shakes more I feel less full but I appear bloated sort of in the abs. If I eat solids like rice and chicken I feel satiated and my abs are flat still somewhat defined, why?
1/10/2024Protein 70 30 70 70 70 70 380Fat 30 5 12 18 12 4 81Carbs 24 8 26 15 14 8 95Scrambled eggs, pinch of cheese, whey shake, walnuts and dried cherries in 1/4Cup of oatmeal Recovery whey isolate shake 1/3 Cup White rice steamed with 11 oz of stemaed Chicken thighs and 2 Tbsp of bbw sauce shredded. Whole fat yogurt and whey with almond milk shake with fresh strawberries 1/4 cup of white rice with 110z chicken thighs steamed and BBQ sauce and hot pepper with onions. Egg white and Whey shake
Here are my weights for legs today: Had the craziest veins on the vastus lateralis, if I can capture with pic I will post, crazy pump today.
1/10/2024Walking body weight lunges as warm up 2x40 210 bodyweight These really woke up my legs Front squats with wedge - excellent form 3x20 115lbs Back Squats 4x8/4x20 275/ 225 Felt strong on the heavy sets but wobbly on lighter sets, last set was fatiguing. I would rep 8, then drop 50lbs and push more. I want another barbell setup with the heavy weight so I can just move between them, one off the front of the rack and one inside. Sumo Squat BB 4x6/4x15 225/185 Pretty sore doing these. Barbell RDL 4x20 185lbs Was fading here Strong core, nice hinge movement and plates 2" off the floor. Glute bridge raise with 35lb plate in my lap 4x30 155lbs Easy and slow contractions Calf raise with barbell 4x10/4x30 205lbs/185lbs Felt pretty good High rep 135 squats @50 50 reps 135lbs I could really feel these today.
Tomorrow is push time, will update after I push hard.
Thanks guys, later.
Mark
this is a great workout bro. keep these updates comingPull set went well, some adjustments made, I really prefer splitting arms up now between push and pull.
Question: Is leg volume to high? Should I drop an exercise and increase sets? 4 - 5 sets of 8 heavy then 15-20 lighter for squat movements?
Here is todays meals:
1/9/2024Protein 70 60 55 15 55 70 30 355Fat 10 5 5 14 5 15 10 64Carbs 5 15 24 14 24 10 8 100Shake with soy and whey protein with fruit Naked whey shake with strawberries and almond milk stewed chicken and white rice outright bar as a snack stewed chicken and white rice Naked Whey and almond butter smoothie Baked chicken pieces
Here are todays weights:
No matter what set or rep I do, I can never win, I am a gluten for punishment, mathematically I will never win the battle but don't tell my feeble mind that, I just keep going. Any feedback on Meso cycles for hypertrophic training, I notice many IBBF guys run these sort of programs, what are the drawbacks if any in your eyes? I am questioning this format for a EQ/Test cycle down the road.
Bent over row 4x20 155lb I can go heavier, Thursday I will do 185lbs. Single arm DB rows 4x8/4x15 85lbs/ 65lbs V-Taper row 4x9/4x15 50lbs/ 40lbs Will jump to 65/ 55lbs Thursday Shrugs 4x8/4x20 275/ 225 Feels about right. Standing DB Upright row 4x6/4x30 30/20lbs Hammer curl sideways 4x6/4x20 45lbs/35lbs These were tough Seated hammer curls 45 degrees 4x6/4x20 35lbs/25lbs Feels about about right, maybe 40/30 Thursday. Reverse grip straight bar 3x30 40lbs Zottman curl 3x6/3x15 25lbs/15lbs Destroyed arms DB Curls – Standing 2x50 20lb each/15lbs shaking, last set arms were so swollen could barely doa single curl.
Thanks guys
Mark
Very much so, eating is getting easier now as well. The insta pot cooks great tasting meals quickly and I’m able to cook more in bulk to store in the fridge. I enjoy shakes and my egg whites but nothing tastes better than rice and steamed chicken thigh's with a little homemade bbq sauce and vegetables on the side. All the fat from thighs is removed once you steam it.
1/11/2024 | Protein | 70 | 25 | 50 | 70 | 30 | 70 | 70 | 385 | ||
| Fat | 15 | 4 | 5 | 10 | 2 | 10 | 18 | 64 | |||
| Carbs | 4 | 30 | 10 | 24 | 5 | 20 | 4 | 97 | |||
| Scrambled eggs, pinch of cheese, whey shake | Hot rice cereal, half banana and almond milk. 25g isolate shake, pre workout 30 min before lifting | Whey shake and almond milk | 11oz steamed chicken thighs with BBQ sauce and 1/2 cup white rice | Grilled chicken breast with a few drops of coconut aminos | 11oz steamed chicken thighs with BBQ sauce and 1/2 cup white rice | Whole fat yogurt and whey with almond milk shake |
1/11/2024 | Flat BB bench | 4x6/ 4x20,18,16,15 | 245/235/225/225 drop set 185lbs | I think I can push 255 for at least 5-6 on one set. | ||
| Incline BB bench | 4x8/ 4x20 | 165/135 | ||||
| Close grip BB bench | 4x6/ 4x18-20 | 135/115 | These are difficult for me right now. | |||
| Upright DB raise - supinated | 3x10/ 3x20 | 20/10 | ||||
| DB pullover | 3x25 | 70lbs | These hit hard on chest days, keeping in the Push rotation. | |||
| Tricep press barbell | 3x20 | 135lbs | Very sore here, working the triceps in a different form fatigues me faster. | |||
| Skull crushers | 3x6/3x20 | 40lbs/30lbs | destroyed after two sets | |||
| Tricep Kickbacks | 4x6/4x20 | 35lbs/25lbs | Split these for a late afternoon set, I was trashed | |||
| Standing side deltoid raise w/ 15sec pause after rep 1 | 3x8/ 3x20 | 10lbs/5lbs | Able to hit shoulders cleanly, triceps totally fatigued. | |||
| Rear deltoid supinated raises | 3x20 | 25lbs | ||||
| Front deltoid raises standing | 3x30 | 10 | ||||
| Single arm DB raise standing | 3x15 | 15lbs |
@man05 your protein is perfectGood push today, I will push 255+ on Monday for flat chest and go for 175+ for incline.
Triceps felt really solid today, 40lb skull crushers were heavy for me, definitely room to improve, the 30lb drop for high reps felt killer, I could feel the muscle working nicely. Shoulders I am staying at the low end of the spectrum until I can switch my entire routine and separate chest and shoulder workouts.
Here are my meals for the day, chicken and rice and vegetables does not get old at all, I get to actually eat what I want this way, I love it.
1/11/2024Protein 70 25 50 70 30 70 70 385Fat 15 4 5 10 2 10 18 64Carbs 4 30 10 24 5 20 4 97Scrambled eggs, pinch of cheese, whey shake Hot rice cereal, half banana and almond milk. 25g isolate shake, pre workout 30 min before lifting Whey shake and almond milk 11oz steamed chicken thighs with BBQ sauce and 1/2 cup white rice Grilled chicken breast with a few drops of coconut aminos 11oz steamed chicken thighs with BBQ sauce and 1/2 cup white rice Whole fat yogurt and whey with almond milk shake
Weights for the day: I started up at 225 after warming up and I felt like my second and third sets were the strongest after increasing weights, does this indicate that I should push a higher weight pre workout then move to a higher initial working weight? I am thinking I can move to 255lbs on Monday after rest and then do a set of 235x8 before the 255lb set, would that make sense?
1/11/2024Flat BB bench 4x6/ 4x20,18,16,15 245/235/225/225 drop set 185lbs I think I can push 255 for at least 5-6 on one set. Incline BB bench 4x8/ 4x20 165/135 Close grip BB bench 4x6/ 4x18-20 135/115 These are difficult for me right now. Upright DB raise - supinated 3x10/ 3x20 20/10 DB pullover 3x25 70lbs These hit hard on chest days, keeping in the Push rotation. Tricep press barbell 3x20 135lbs Very sore here, working the triceps in a different form fatigues me faster. Skull crushers 3x6/3x20 40lbs/30lbs destroyed after two sets Tricep Kickbacks 4x6/4x20 35lbs/25lbs Split these for a late afternoon set, I was trashed Standing side deltoid raise w/ 15sec pause after rep 1 3x8/ 3x20 10lbs/5lbs Able to hit shoulders cleanly, triceps totally fatigued. Rear deltoid supinated raises 3x20 25lbs Front deltoid raises standing 3x30 10 Single arm DB raise standing 3x15 15lbs
Thanks guys for the input, will post after tomorrow s PUSH.
Mark
My addiction became liquid egg whites and whey 24/7, now supplement with these things in moderation. I’m guessing should gain some more size eating real food now.agree a hundred percent healthy foods taste good once you stop being a crack addict to junk food
I agree but I need some new ways to eat them, I can only eat scrambles and fried eggs so much.whole eggs are always going to be better than egg whites
Homemade sauce, only honey I skip the sugar.chicken thighs and barbecue sauce sounds good
I have really cut back on weights with shoulders to prevent injury.make sure you don't overdo it on your shoulders
What do you think about dropping the tricep press on the bench to focus on more weight and 5 sets doing skull crushers? By the time I hit skull crushers I’m starting to get fatigued, if I prioritize that movement I will push more weight for more reps, good or bad idea?Get the skull crushers up and your bench will be better
I want more, Id like to hit 275 flat bench as a 2024 goal and 200 on incline.not bad doing flat chest and inclines
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