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Approved Log Vacation Cutting Cycle Log - Anavar, Testosterone, Primobolan

you're the second guy I've seen that said that they got great results on Primo might have to try that one again
 
nice job man you're definitely in top shape
if you put on five or ten pounds of clean muscle mass you will look sick
While I want to run a Tren e cycle
EQ and test work good together
I am leaning towards EQ and Test C unless running e has a benefit other than the half life. Like Ulter pointed out, that Tren E cycle seems to be good when I hit a wall I cannot overcome, am I correct in my thinking?
I’ve been on Prino for about 5 weeks, I was hoping I could do 8-10 possibly and wind this cut down, get my bloods done by the doc, level up with what I’ve been running to him and plan out a clean bulk cycle, get everything on hand, donate my blood then push for a 12 week Eq / test cycle or if Tren E 8 weeks.

But for now I want to push hard for 4 -5 more weeks if I get a consensus that’s still sane.

Thank you for your feed back


Mark
 
you're the second guy I've seen that said that they got great results on Primo might have to try that one again
I feel like running primo allows me to push my reps and sets noticeably harder, I also recover differently, much better than running deca and without the bloat from the deca. I will be running primo all over again in 2024 with Var, truly amazing combination.
 
I feel like running primo allows me to push my reps and sets noticeably harder, I also recover differently, much better than running deca and without the bloat from the deca. I will be running primo all over again in 2024 with Var, truly amazing combination.
I noticed the same with primo I felt very Machine like and things for easier alot faster so I had to keep pushing the bar
 
you're the second guy I've seen that said that they got great results on Primo might have to try that one again
Primo is slept on by alot of more aas experienced users I feel because they use compounds that are much stronger so they don't see the benefits in Primo, for someone like man05 and myself being newer users Primo is a perfect compliment when combined with other less potent aas, I put on 10lbs clean with my Primo cycle with low test back in october with low test , it has its place for people wanting to get into aas and starting in the shallow end of the pool.
 
Primo is slept on by alot of more aas experienced users I feel because they use compounds that are much stronger so they don't see the benefits in Primo, for someone like man05 and myself being newer users Primo is a perfect compliment when combined with other less potent aas, I put on 10lbs clean with my Primo cycle with low test back in october with low test , it has its place for people wanting to get into aas and starting in the shallow end of the pool.
Well said Noah.
How long did you run primo?
I’m around week 5 right now, once I wrap this one up I’m back on trt dose, bloodwork, blood donation then plan a cycle to gain some more lean mass.
 
Todays push workout with jet lag, tired and thirsty for some reason.

Todays macros:
1/1/24​
Protein
70​
60​
60​
65​
50​
50​
355​
Fat
3​
50​
2​
5​
4​
20​
84​
Carbs
30​
24​
12​
20​
10​
12​
108​
Whey isolate- egg whites6 whole eggs, turkey sausage, 1/4C Italian shredded cheese, 1/4C oatmeal, 1/3C whole walnuts, 1tsp clover honeyWhey isolate shake with non fat milk and water8oz grilled chicken and 1/4 cup sweet potatoCasein shake with waterWhole yogurt with walnuts


Weights: felt good to be back on my own equipment again.

1/1/24​
Flat BB bench3x6/ 3x20225/ 185
Incline DB bench3x6/ 3x3070/ (45each)
Flat DB bench3x6/3x2585/65
Incline BB bench3x6/ 3x20155/135
Upright DB raise - supinated3x6/ 3x3015/10
Standing side deltoid raise w/ 15sec pause after rep 13x6/3x3015/10
Rear deltoid supinated raises3x6/3x2535/25
Face Pull3x6/2x30,1x2530/20
Front deltoid raises standing3x6/3x3020/10
One arm dumbbell press3x6/2x2020/15

I am ending week 5 on primo, can I run this cutting cycle for 8 weeks before I taper off?

This cutter has been fantastic, really enjoying it.


Thank you all for your suggestions and feedback.

Mark
 
Todays push workout with jet lag, tired and thirsty for some reason.

Todays macros:
1/1/24​
Protein
70​
60​
60​
65​
50​
50​
355​
Fat
3​
50​
2​
5​
4​
20​
84​
Carbs
30​
24​
12​
20​
10​
12​
108​
Whey isolate- egg whites6 whole eggs, turkey sausage, 1/4C Italian shredded cheese, 1/4C oatmeal, 1/3C whole walnuts, 1tsp clover honeyWhey isolate shake with non fat milk and water8oz grilled chicken and 1/4 cup sweet potatoCasein shake with waterWhole yogurt with walnuts

Weights: felt good to be back on my own equipment again.

1/1/24​
Flat BB bench3x6/ 3x20225/ 185
Incline DB bench3x6/ 3x3070/ (45each)
Flat DB bench3x6/3x2585/65
Incline BB bench3x6/ 3x20155/135
Upright DB raise - supinated3x6/ 3x3015/10
Standing side deltoid raise w/ 15sec pause after rep 13x6/3x3015/10
Rear deltoid supinated raises3x6/3x2535/25
Face Pull3x6/2x30,1x2530/20
Front deltoid raises standing3x6/3x3020/10
One arm dumbbell press3x6/2x2020/15

I am ending week 5 on primo, can I run this cutting cycle for 8 weeks before I taper off?

This cutter has been fantastic, really enjoying it.


Thank you all for your suggestions and feedback.

Mark
@man05 diet still strong and i see 5 weeks primo make it 12 not 8 forget 8
 
Don’t laugh, my poses suck, I will practice these going forward. Overall I recomped okay, got leaner, gained some definition and muscle. But overall it’s not where I want to be. I’ve been reading a ton on Physique class and that’s a direction I’d like to possibly pursue given my frame and genetics. My chest is weak as piss and my back needs to grow more, it all needs to grow( diet( Whole Foods, way less shake), training I need better methodology and when to tweak sets/ reps, smart cycles( this was my first complete cycle bulk and cut) cutting by far is so rewarding for me, so challenging. Overall I’ll give myself a pass not a high pass but passable( not where I want to be). Massive thank yous to each and everyone of you guys for pushing, encouraging and helping me press on. I look forward to 2024 and doing all over again.
I had a hard time flexing quads still swollen from yesterday.

I will update Monday after I do push routine.

Happy new years


Mark
good update
 
@man05 diet still strong and i see 5 weeks primo make it 12 not 8 forget 8
You think keep test 300 or drop some to stay more dry? What’s max length on var ?
I have enough but have never run an oral more than a month really.
 
You think keep test 300 or drop some to stay more dry? What’s max length on var ?
I have enough but have never run an oral more than a month really.
@man05 I think 300mgs is fine dont drop, and anavar 50mgs ed if you go high 8 weeks is fine with n2guard organ support
8 weeks is fine if you have n2guard
 
Todays workout was back on track, yesterdays meals and weights were crap, very jet lagged and tired. Felt much better today.
Getting the hang of front squats with crossed arms, I think I can learn to push this some as I gradually build up, today I felt a little weaker during back squats I think from taxing new muscles. Does anyone advise on a Kabuki safety squat bar over a regular safety squat bar? I can pick up a blemished one for cheap if I move soon.

Here are todays meals, getting back on track, feel like dirt eating shakes after eating more whole foods, time to bust out the Instapot.

Any thoughts on Meso cycles? I am reading alot on the mixture of legs and shoulders and arms through out the week instead of saturating each muscle group during a 2 day split, curious to hear how that worked for some of you. I really feel like I need to take a break form the 2 day split.

Meals:
1/3/2024​
Protein
50​
50​
75​
45​
65​
75​
360​
Fat
25​
50​
5​
8​
10​
5​
103​
Carbs
22​
8​
8​
28​
25​
8​
99​
5 whole eggs, 1/3 C oatmealShakeEgg white shake with wheyGrilled chickenwrapGround Turkey and sweet potatoe (1/2)Egg white shake and whey

Weights:
1/3/2024​
Front squats with wedge - excellent form3x20135lbsBack on track feeling rested
Back Squats4x6/4x20250/ 185
Sumo Squat BB3x6/3x25250/185
Single leg RDL3x2545lb DB
Glute bridge raise with 35lb plate in my lap3x30135lbs
Calf raise with barbell4x30205lbs
Walking body weight lunges in cold weather3x40210 bodyweight

I will update tomorrow with my push routine.


During this cutter I am on N2Guard, 5-6Mg Omega 3, daily multivitamin mixed with the Var, Primo and Test, anything else I should consider for optimal well being? TheN2Slin is a potent mix that removes all hunger, one capsule is enough for me.


Thanks you guys for the help.

Mark
 
Todays workout was back on track, yesterdays meals and weights were crap, very jet lagged and tired. Felt much better today.
Getting the hang of front squats with crossed arms, I think I can learn to push this some as I gradually build up, today I felt a little weaker during back squats I think from taxing new muscles. Does anyone advise on a Kabuki safety squat bar over a regular safety squat bar? I can pick up a blemished one for cheap if I move soon.

Here are todays meals, getting back on track, feel like dirt eating shakes after eating more whole foods, time to bust out the Instapot.

Any thoughts on Meso cycles? I am reading alot on the mixture of legs and shoulders and arms through out the week instead of saturating each muscle group during a 2 day split, curious to hear how that worked for some of you. I really feel like I need to take a break form the 2 day split.

Meals:
1/3/2024​
Protein
50​
50​
75​
45​
65​
75​
360​
Fat
25​
50​
5​
8​
10​
5​
103​
Carbs
22​
8​
8​
28​
25​
8​
99​
5 whole eggs, 1/3 C oatmealShakeEgg white shake with wheyGrilled chickenwrapGround Turkey and sweet potatoe (1/2)Egg white shake and whey

Weights:
1/3/2024​
Front squats with wedge - excellent form3x20135lbsBack on track feeling rested
Back Squats4x6/4x20250/ 185
Sumo Squat BB3x6/3x25250/185
Single leg RDL3x2545lb DB
Glute bridge raise with 35lb plate in my lap3x30135lbs
Calf raise with barbell4x30205lbs
Walking body weight lunges in cold weather3x40210 bodyweight

I will update tomorrow with my push routine.


During this cutter I am on N2Guard, 5-6Mg Omega 3, daily multivitamin mixed with the Var, Primo and Test, anything else I should consider for optimal well being? TheN2Slin is a potent mix that removes all hunger, one capsule is enough for me.


Thanks you guys for the help.

Mark
@man05 n2guard is right Mark smart move and n2slin before meals is perfect keep doing it
rest is good training on point but make sure cardio is up
 
@man05 n2guard is right Mark smart move and n2slin before meals is perfect keep doing it
rest is good training on point but make sure cardio is up
I’ve been walking 25-30 minutes and a moderate pace about 3-4 times per week.
That sound about right?
 
Key with jet lag is to stay up (as awful as that feels) and reset to the new time. I've done that and kicked ass in comps. Long as I get sleep at the end of the reset and feed like a mofo
 
I’ve been walking 25-30 minutes and a moderate pace about 3-4 times per week.
That sound about right?
Nope. I do that 2x a day EVERY day. Inc non training. My minimum is 6000 a day. Walked that before lunch to day (walked to the gym, up Moel Penderyn and a supermarket after - the hill had me sweating all the way up)
 
I will increase my cardio then, I can double that.

Could I get your feedback on possibly changing my workout layout here, I can add additional movement or increase my sets.
I need to back off deltoids the same day I am doing chest and possibly switch form the push,pull,legs workout I've been on for over one year.

This is just a proposed idea I have as I have been reading about combined sets, meso cycles and basically mixing things up.

MondayBarebell Squat
Walking lunges
Barbell Good morning
Dumbell Lateral raise
Barebell Calf Raise
Hanging straight leg raise
TuesdayBench Press Medium grip
Dumbell press flat
Dumbell Skullcrusher
Dumbbell Facepull
Dumbbell curl alternating
WednesdayBarebell Bent Over Row
Chest Supported Row
Dumbell Row single arm
Dumbell front raise
Barbell shrug
Hammer Curl
ThursdayFront Squat
Dumbbell stiff leg deadlift
Barbell Squat (high)
Stair Calves
Hanging knee raise
FridayBench Press cambered bar
Bench press incline narrow grip
JM Press
Dip Weighted
Barbell Upright row
Barbell Facepull
Dumbbell Curl Incline
I am on week 5/12 of the Primo cycle and figured it couldn't hurt to start working things a little different.


I would value your feedback guys if you have a moment.


Thank you


Mark
 
Todays workout was back on track, yesterdays meals and weights were crap, very jet lagged and tired. Felt much better today.
Getting the hang of front squats with crossed arms, I think I can learn to push this some as I gradually build up, today I felt a little weaker during back squats I think from taxing new muscles. Does anyone advise on a Kabuki safety squat bar over a regular safety squat bar? I can pick up a blemished one for cheap if I move soon.

Here are todays meals, getting back on track, feel like dirt eating shakes after eating more whole foods, time to bust out the Instapot.

Any thoughts on Meso cycles? I am reading alot on the mixture of legs and shoulders and arms through out the week instead of saturating each muscle group during a 2 day split, curious to hear how that worked for some of you. I really feel like I need to take a break form the 2 day split.

Meals:
1/3/2024​
Protein
50​
50​
75​
45​
65​
75​
360​
Fat
25​
50​
5​
8​
10​
5​
103​
Carbs
22​
8​
8​
28​
25​
8​
99​
5 whole eggs, 1/3 C oatmealShakeEgg white shake with wheyGrilled chickenwrapGround Turkey and sweet potatoe (1/2)Egg white shake and whey

Weights:
1/3/2024​
Front squats with wedge - excellent form3x20135lbsBack on track feeling rested
Back Squats4x6/4x20250/ 185
Sumo Squat BB3x6/3x25250/185
Single leg RDL3x2545lb DB
Glute bridge raise with 35lb plate in my lap3x30135lbs
Calf raise with barbell4x30205lbs
Walking body weight lunges in cold weather3x40210 bodyweight

I will update tomorrow with my push routine.


During this cutter I am on N2Guard, 5-6Mg Omega 3, daily multivitamin mixed with the Var, Primo and Test, anything else I should consider for optimal well being? TheN2Slin is a potent mix that removes all hunger, one capsule is enough for me.


Thanks you guys for the help.

Mark
great update right here
 
Todays Pull session went fairly well, pulled heavy then pulled for slow high volume reps.

What do you guys things about the Meso cycle idea mixing body parts? I really need to switch deltoids and chest before its a problem, not sure how best to do that. If I stick push, pull, legs go Chest and arms? then Pull Back and shoulders followed by legs?

Todays Meals:

1/5/2024​
Protein
50​
25​
50​
65​
45​
45​
60​
50​
390​
Fat
18​
2​
3​
15​
10​
10​
5​
9​
72​
Carbs
30​
36​
6​
28​
10​
10​
0​
10​
130​
Yogurt, bowl of oats with walnuts and cherries.PRE - Isolate shake, cream of rice with cherries and almond milk.Cassein shake POST8oz chicken, 1/2 cup brown rice and qunoaHomemade turkey chili with some hot sauce and shredded cheeseHomemade turkey chili with some hot sauce and shredded cheeseGrilled chicken and bbq sauce with vinegar2 cups whole yogurt


Todays weights
1/5/2024​
Bent over supinated row3x6/3x2060lbs/ 45lbs
Single arm DB rows3x6/3x3080lbs/ 55lbs
DB pullover3x6/3x2570lbs/55lbs
Shrugs3x6/3x20250/ 215
Standing DB Upright row3x6/3x3025/ 15
V-Taper row3x6/3x2060lbs/ 45lbs
Tricep Kickbacks3x6/3x2540lbs/30lbs
Hammer curl sideways3x6/3x3040lbs/30lbs
Skull crushers3x6/3x3035lbs/25lbs
Seated hammer curls 45 degrees3x6/3x3035lbs/25lbs
Reverse grip straight bar3x3040lbs
Zottman curl3x6/3x2025lbs/15lbs
Forearm Curls3x6/3x3030lbs/25lbs
DB Curls – Standing2x5020lb each/15lbs( too swollen to really curl, arms were super tight)

If I don't hear back about direction on a workout split change I will just beat the hell out of my legs tomorrow, I think I'm ready to push more on the front squats, such and awesome movement/ And I went ahead and ordered the blemished Kabuki safety bar.

Later guys, chat with y'all tomorrow.


Mark
 
Todays Pull session went fairly well, pulled heavy then pulled for slow high volume reps.

What do you guys things about the Meso cycle idea mixing body parts? I really need to switch deltoids and chest before its a problem, not sure how best to do that. If I stick push, pull, legs go Chest and arms? then Pull Back and shoulders followed by legs?

Todays Meals:

1/5/2024​
Protein
50​
25​
50​
65​
45​
45​
60​
50​
390​
Fat
18​
2​
3​
15​
10​
10​
5​
9​
72​
Carbs
30​
36​
6​
28​
10​
10​
0​
10​
130​
Yogurt, bowl of oats with walnuts and cherries.PRE - Isolate shake, cream of rice with cherries and almond milk.Cassein shake POST8oz chicken, 1/2 cup brown rice and qunoaHomemade turkey chili with some hot sauce and shredded cheeseHomemade turkey chili with some hot sauce and shredded cheeseGrilled chicken and bbq sauce with vinegar2 cups whole yogurt

Todays weights
1/5/2024​
Bent over supinated row3x6/3x2060lbs/ 45lbs
Single arm DB rows3x6/3x3080lbs/ 55lbs
DB pullover3x6/3x2570lbs/55lbs
Shrugs3x6/3x20250/ 215
Standing DB Upright row3x6/3x3025/ 15
V-Taper row3x6/3x2060lbs/ 45lbs
Tricep Kickbacks3x6/3x2540lbs/30lbs
Hammer curl sideways3x6/3x3040lbs/30lbs
Skull crushers3x6/3x3035lbs/25lbs
Seated hammer curls 45 degrees3x6/3x3035lbs/25lbs
Reverse grip straight bar3x3040lbs
Zottman curl3x6/3x2025lbs/15lbs
Forearm Curls3x6/3x3030lbs/25lbs
DB Curls – Standing2x5020lb each/15lbs( too swollen to really curl, arms were super tight)

If I don't hear back about direction on a workout split change I will just beat the hell out of my legs tomorrow, I think I'm ready to push more on the front squats, such and awesome movement/ And I went ahead and ordered the blemished Kabuki safety bar.

Later guys, chat with y'all tomorrow.


Mark
@man05 good weights i like the skull crushers but you need to up the sets
 
@man05 good weights i like the skull crushers but you need to up the sets
So five sets per exercise with the high / low weight combination? Should drop an exercise of each body part? I’m nearing 20-25 sets per exercise on some. Any ideas on splitting arms to chest and shoulders to back, would that work to balance out deltoids from being over worked?
 
Worked legs well today, I am exhausted and ready to sleep, day off tomorrow.

Weights:
1/6/2024​
Front squats with wedge - excellent form3x20135lbs
Back Squats5x8/5x20265/ 185
Sumo Squat BB4x6/4x25250/185
Single leg RDL4x2545lb DB
Glute bridge raise with 35lb plate in my lap4x30155lbs
Calf raise with barbell4x10/4x30205/185lbs
Walking body weight lunges 3x40 (20 per leg)210 bodyweight

Meals:
1/6/2024​
Protein
40​
45​
55​
60​
60​
40​
70​
30​
400​
Fat
6​
10​
12​
3​
15​
8​
10​
9​
73​
Carbs
15​
10​
30​
6​
18​
20​
20​
10​
129​
Yogurt and fruitHomemade turkey chili with some hot sauce and shredded cheeseWhey isolate shake and half Turkey sandwhichCassein shake POSTGrilld flank steak and steamed carrotsgrilld flank steak and pineappleFresh fruit yogurt and whey smoothiecup of high protein yogurt and a anavar, forgot to take earlier

Tomorrow is a rest day, I am going to plan my first meso cycle to start after this cutter ends.
IF anyone has suggestions of adding more exercises or simply to increase volume and down sets please let me know.

I really want to have a solid 2024 and pack on some lean mass, really looking at Test/ EQ as a next cycle once bloods clear in a few months.
Goals are to eat more food and less shakes, more fruit and vegetables, train harder but smarter with program layout. Do any of yuou guys do training or advisory work?


Thank you all


mark
 
Worked legs well today, I am exhausted and ready to sleep, day off tomorrow.

Weights:
1/6/2024​
Front squats with wedge - excellent form3x20135lbs
Back Squats5x8/5x20265/ 185
Sumo Squat BB4x6/4x25250/185
Single leg RDL4x2545lb DB
Glute bridge raise with 35lb plate in my lap4x30155lbs
Calf raise with barbell4x10/4x30205/185lbs
Walking body weight lunges3x40 (20 per leg)210 bodyweight

Meals:
1/6/2024​
Protein
40​
45​
55​
60​
60​
40​
70​
30​
400​
Fat
6​
10​
12​
3​
15​
8​
10​
9​
73​
Carbs
15​
10​
30​
6​
18​
20​
20​
10​
129​
Yogurt and fruitHomemade turkey chili with some hot sauce and shredded cheeseWhey isolate shake and half Turkey sandwhichCassein shake POSTGrilld flank steak and steamed carrotsgrilld flank steak and pineappleFresh fruit yogurt and whey smoothiecup of high protein yogurt and a anavar, forgot to take earlier

Tomorrow is a rest day, I am going to plan my first meso cycle to start after this cutter ends.
IF anyone has suggestions of adding more exercises or simply to increase volume and down sets please let me know.

I really want to have a solid 2024 and pack on some lean mass, really looking at Test/ EQ as a next cycle once bloods clear in a few months.
Goals are to eat more food and less shakes, more fruit and vegetables, train harder but smarter with program layout. Do any of yuou guys do training or advisory work?


Thank you all


mark
@man05 2024 you want to peak some bulking sure
but listen dont worry about the less shakes issues, drink shakes eat bars and enjoy the growth

i would wait for 8 weeks before test eq push

and so far you're doing really well on the training and carbs low , get carbs under 100 grams to cut
 
my suggestion is maybe starting off your leg day with some lunges
 
@man05 2024 you want to peak some bulking sure
but listen dont worry about the less shakes issues, drink shakes eat bars and enjoy the growth

i would wait for 8 weeks before test eq push

and so far you're doing really well on the training and carbs low , get carbs under 100 grams to cut
What is optimal ratio for lean bulk test c/eq?

Something like 500 test/700 eq? Just curious
 
Bros I wouldn't overtrain too much but what you can do is add a couple sets of ab exercises
I’ve been trying to do hanging work one day then ground work the other day.
 
my suggestion is maybe starting off your leg day with some lunges
I will do a few walking sets before squats on Wednesday as a warm up, thank you.
 
Tough but they are growing on me, I’m going to try with a camber bar once that bar arrives.
 
Push went well today, focused scapula retraction of pressing lats down flat to help better form on presses.
Removed Bicep's from this Push and adding to tomorrows pull, doing so has allowed me to push harder and more weight with better form focusing on triceps only.

Meals:
1/8/2024​
Protein
70​
20​
60​
55​
15​
65​
70​
35​
390​
Fat
10​
2​
5​
5​
14​
8​
15​
5​
64​
Carbs
5​
24​
15​
24​
14​
12​
10​
0​
104​
Shake with soy and whey protein with fruitrice krispies and banana - pre workoutNaked whey shake with strawberries and almond milkGrilled chicken a nd white riceoutright bar as a snack3/4 cup ground turkey with homemade tomato sauce, 4 oz beef leftover and 3 oz leftover chicken.Naked Whey and almond butter smoothieSteamed chicken plain about 4.5oz

Here are my weights, guess I wills tick with push, pull, legs this cycle then consider the meso cyles for Test/EQ run once i get specifics and dosages dialed in.

Flat BB bench4x6/ 4x20225/ 185Tired from this225,225,215,205
Incline BB bench4x6/ 4x20155/135
Close grip BB bench4x6/ 4x18-20185/165
Upright DB raise - supinated3x10/ 3x2015/10
DB pullover3x6/3x2570lbs/ 1x85lbsBetter on chest than on Pull , better feeling today, good stretch, very deep.
Tricep press barbell3x20135lbs Form needs a little work, may drop lb's to focus on that movement
Skull crushers4x6/4x20, 17,16, 1640lbs/30lbs
Tricep Kickbacks4x6/4x20,18,15,14
35lbs/25lbspretty tired
Standing side deltoid raise w/ 15sec pause after rep 13*255lbsnice and slow half reps
Rear deltoid supinated raises3x2020lbs
Front deltoid raises standing3x30-skipped these since I pressed so much

I will update tomorrow after I complete push. Going to try to split carbs between pre workout and post workout, 40 grams rice cereal/ 40 grams white rice post workout with chicken thighs.


Have a great night guys


Mark
 
Push went well today, focused scapula retraction of pressing lats down flat to help better form on presses.
Removed Bicep's from this Push and adding to tomorrows pull, doing so has allowed me to push harder and more weight with better form focusing on triceps only.

Meals:
1/8/2024​
Protein
70​
20​
60​
55​
15​
65​
70​
35​
390​
Fat
10​
2​
5​
5​
14​
8​
15​
5​
64​
Carbs
5​
24​
15​
24​
14​
12​
10​
0​
104​
Shake with soy and whey protein with fruitrice krispies and banana - pre workoutNaked whey shake with strawberries and almond milkGrilled chicken a nd white riceoutright bar as a snack3/4 cup ground turkey with homemade tomato sauce, 4 oz beef leftover and 3 oz leftover chicken.Naked Whey and almond butter smoothieSteamed chicken plain about 4.5oz

Here are my weights, guess I wills tick with push, pull, legs this cycle then consider the meso cyles for Test/EQ run once i get specifics and dosages dialed in.

Flat BB bench4x6/ 4x20225/ 185Tired from this225,225,215,205
Incline BB bench4x6/ 4x20155/135
Close grip BB bench4x6/ 4x18-20185/165
Upright DB raise - supinated3x10/ 3x2015/10
DB pullover3x6/3x2570lbs/ 1x85lbsBetter on chest than on Pull , better feeling today, good stretch, very deep.
Tricep press barbell3x20135lbsForm needs a little work, may drop lb's to focus on that movement
Skull crushers4x6/4x20, 17,16, 1640lbs/30lbs
Tricep Kickbacks4x6/4x20,18,15,1435lbs/25lbspretty tired
Standing side deltoid raise w/ 15sec pause after rep 13*255lbsnice and slow half reps
Rear deltoid supinated raises3x2020lbs
Front deltoid raises standing3x30-skipped these since I pressed so much

I will update tomorrow after I complete push. Going to try to split carbs between pre workout and post workout, 40 grams rice cereal/ 40 grams white rice post workout with chicken thighs.


Have a great night guys


Mark
@man05 thats smart do TKD with carbs around training and push harder
 
Worked legs well today, I am exhausted and ready to sleep, day off tomorrow.

Weights:
1/6/2024​
Front squats with wedge - excellent form3x20135lbs
Back Squats5x8/5x20265/ 185
Sumo Squat BB4x6/4x25250/185
Single leg RDL4x2545lb DB
Glute bridge raise with 35lb plate in my lap4x30155lbs
Calf raise with barbell4x10/4x30205/185lbs
Walking body weight lunges3x40 (20 per leg)210 bodyweight

Meals:
1/6/2024​
Protein
40​
45​
55​
60​
60​
40​
70​
30​
400​
Fat
6​
10​
12​
3​
15​
8​
10​
9​
73​
Carbs
15​
10​
30​
6​
18​
20​
20​
10​
129​
Yogurt and fruitHomemade turkey chili with some hot sauce and shredded cheeseWhey isolate shake and half Turkey sandwhichCassein shake POSTGrilld flank steak and steamed carrotsgrilld flank steak and pineappleFresh fruit yogurt and whey smoothiecup of high protein yogurt and a anavar, forgot to take earlier

Tomorrow is a rest day, I am going to plan my first meso cycle to start after this cutter ends.
IF anyone has suggestions of adding more exercises or simply to increase volume and down sets please let me know.

I really want to have a solid 2024 and pack on some lean mass, really looking at Test/ EQ as a next cycle once bloods clear in a few months.
Goals are to eat more food and less shakes, more fruit and vegetables, train harder but smarter with program layout. Do any of yuou guys do training or advisory work?


Thank you all


mark
great workout here and update I really like it
 
Pull set went well, some adjustments made, I really prefer splitting arms up now between push and pull.
Question: Is leg volume to high? Should I drop an exercise and increase sets? 4 - 5 sets of 8 heavy then 15-20 lighter for squat movements?

Here is todays meals:
1/9/2024​
Protein
70​
60​
55​
15​
55​
70​
30​
355​
Fat
10​
5​
5​
14​
5​
15​
10​
64​
Carbs
5​
15​
24​
14​
24​
10​
8​
100​
Shake with soy and whey protein with fruitNaked whey shake with strawberries and almond milkstewed chicken and white riceoutright bar as a snackstewed chicken and white riceNaked Whey and almond butter smoothieBaked chicken pieces

Here are todays weights:
Bent over row4x20155lbI can go heavier, Thursday I will do 185lbs.
Single arm DB rows4x8/4x1585lbs/ 65lbs
V-Taper row4x9/4x1550lbs/ 40lbsWill jump to 65/ 55lbs Thursday
Shrugs4x8/4x20275/ 225Feels about right.
Standing DB Upright row4x6/4x3030/20lbs
Hammer curl sideways4x6/4x2045lbs/35lbsThese were tough
Seated hammer curls 45 degrees4x6/4x2035lbs/25lbsFeels about about right, maybe 40/30 Thursday.
Reverse grip straight bar3x3040lbs
Zottman curl3x6/3x1525lbs/15lbsDestroyed arms
DB Curls – Standing2x5020lb each/15lbsshaking, last set arms were so swollen could barely doa single curl.
No matter what set or rep I do, I can never win, I am a gluten for punishment, mathematically I will never win the battle but don't tell my feeble mind that, I just keep going. Any feedback on Meso cycles for hypertrophic training, I notice many IBBF guys run these sort of programs, what are the drawbacks if any in your eyes? I am questioning this format for a EQ/Test cycle down the road.

Thanks guys


Mark
 
Pull set went well, some adjustments made, I really prefer splitting arms up now between push and pull.
Question: Is leg volume to high? Should I drop an exercise and increase sets? 4 - 5 sets of 8 heavy then 15-20 lighter for squat movements?

Here is todays meals:
1/9/2024​
Protein
70​
60​
55​
15​
55​
70​
30​
355​
Fat
10​
5​
5​
14​
5​
15​
10​
64​
Carbs
5​
15​
24​
14​
24​
10​
8​
100​
Shake with soy and whey protein with fruitNaked whey shake with strawberries and almond milkstewed chicken and white riceoutright bar as a snackstewed chicken and white riceNaked Whey and almond butter smoothieBaked chicken pieces

Here are todays weights:
Bent over row4x20155lbI can go heavier, Thursday I will do 185lbs.
Single arm DB rows4x8/4x1585lbs/ 65lbs
V-Taper row4x9/4x1550lbs/ 40lbsWill jump to 65/ 55lbs Thursday
Shrugs4x8/4x20275/ 225Feels about right.
Standing DB Upright row4x6/4x3030/20lbs
Hammer curl sideways4x6/4x2045lbs/35lbsThese were tough
Seated hammer curls 45 degrees4x6/4x2035lbs/25lbsFeels about about right, maybe 40/30 Thursday.
Reverse grip straight bar3x3040lbs
Zottman curl3x6/3x1525lbs/15lbsDestroyed arms
DB Curls – Standing2x5020lb each/15lbsshaking, last set arms were so swollen could barely doa single curl.
No matter what set or rep I do, I can never win, I am a gluten for punishment, mathematically I will never win the battle but don't tell my feeble mind that, I just keep going. Any feedback on Meso cycles for hypertrophic training, I notice many IBBF guys run these sort of programs, what are the drawbacks if any in your eyes? I am questioning this format for a EQ/Test cycle down the road.

Thanks guys


Mark
@man05 if you want meso cycles thats up or down
if you want to do test eq that should play with tbol

as long as you protein is high you're good
 
mobster is being hard on everybody today but take it as something to motivate you
Thursday I will do bent over rows @200, I can do it.
 
sounds like you are really enjoying this
Very much so, eating is getting easier now as well. The insta pot cooks great tasting meals quickly and I’m able to cook more in bulk to store in the fridge. I enjoy shakes and my egg whites but nothing tastes better than rice and steamed chicken thigh's with a little homemade bbq sauce and vegetables on the side. All the fat from thighs is removed once you steam it.
 
sounds like you are really enjoying this
Very much so, eating is getting easier now as well. The insta pot cooks great tasting meals quickly and I’m able to cook more in bulk to store in the fridge. I enjoy shakes and my egg whites but nothing tastes better than rice and steamed chicken thigh's with a little homemade bbq sauce and vegetables on the side. All the fat from thighs is removed once you steam it.
 
Good leg session today, walking lunges before squats helped and then it hurt more :)
RDLs on the bar felt pretty good, will bump to 225 Saturday and shoot for 4x15-18 range.

Here are the meals: Crazy thing is when I drink shakes more I feel less full but I appear bloated sort of in the abs. If I eat solids like rice and chicken I feel satiated and my abs are flat still somewhat defined, why?
1/10/2024​
Protein
70​
30​
70​
70​
70​
70​
380​
Fat
30​
5​
12​
18​
12​
4​
81​
Carbs
24​
8​
26​
15​
14​
8​
95​
Scrambled eggs, pinch of cheese, whey shake, walnuts and dried cherries in 1/4Cup of oatmealRecovery whey isolate shake1/3 Cup White rice steamed with 11 oz of stemaed Chicken thighs and 2 Tbsp of bbw sauce shredded.Whole fat yogurt and whey with almond milk shake with fresh strawberries1/4 cup of white rice with 110z chicken thighs steamed and BBQ sauce and hot pepper with onions.Egg white and Whey shake

Here are my weights for legs today: Had the craziest veins on the vastus lateralis, if I can capture with pic I will post, crazy pump today.

1/10/2024​
Walking body weight lunges as warm up2x40210 bodyweightThese really woke up my legs
Front squats with wedge - excellent form3x20115lbs
Back Squats4x8/4x20275/ 225Felt strong on the heavy sets but wobbly on lighter sets, last set was fatiguing.I would rep 8, then drop 50lbs and push more. I want another barbell setup with the heavy weight so I can just move between them, one off the front of the rack and one inside.
Sumo Squat BB4x6/4x15225/185Pretty sore doing these.
Barbell RDL4x20185lbsWas fading hereStrong core, nice hinge movement and plates 2" off the floor.
Glute bridge raise with 35lb plate in my lap4x30155lbsEasy and slow contractions
Calf raise with barbell4x10/4x30205lbs/185lbsFelt pretty good
High rep 135 squats @5050 reps135lbsI could really feel these today.


Tomorrow is push time, will update after I push hard.


Thanks guys, later.


Mark
 
Good leg session today, walking lunges before squats helped and then it hurt more :)
RDLs on the bar felt pretty good, will bump to 225 Saturday and shoot for 4x15-18 range.

Here are the meals: Crazy thing is when I drink shakes more I feel less full but I appear bloated sort of in the abs. If I eat solids like rice and chicken I feel satiated and my abs are flat still somewhat defined, why?
1/10/2024​
Protein
70​
30​
70​
70​
70​
70​
380​
Fat
30​
5​
12​
18​
12​
4​
81​
Carbs
24​
8​
26​
15​
14​
8​
95​
Scrambled eggs, pinch of cheese, whey shake, walnuts and dried cherries in 1/4Cup of oatmealRecovery whey isolate shake1/3 Cup White rice steamed with 11 oz of stemaed Chicken thighs and 2 Tbsp of bbw sauce shredded.Whole fat yogurt and whey with almond milk shake with fresh strawberries1/4 cup of white rice with 110z chicken thighs steamed and BBQ sauce and hot pepper with onions.Egg white and Whey shake

Here are my weights for legs today: Had the craziest veins on the vastus lateralis, if I can capture with pic I will post, crazy pump today.

1/10/2024​
Walking body weight lunges as warm up2x40210 bodyweightThese really woke up my legs
Front squats with wedge - excellent form3x20115lbs
Back Squats4x8/4x20275/ 225Felt strong on the heavy sets but wobbly on lighter sets, last set was fatiguing.I would rep 8, then drop 50lbs and push more. I want another barbell setup with the heavy weight so I can just move between them, one off the front of the rack and one inside.
Sumo Squat BB4x6/4x15225/185Pretty sore doing these.
Barbell RDL4x20185lbsWas fading hereStrong core, nice hinge movement and plates 2" off the floor.
Glute bridge raise with 35lb plate in my lap4x30155lbsEasy and slow contractions
Calf raise with barbell4x10/4x30205lbs/185lbsFelt pretty good
High rep 135 squats @5050 reps135lbsI could really feel these today.


Tomorrow is push time, will update after I push hard.


Thanks guys, later.


Mark
@man05 tomorrow is push thats the best
i like the diet today
 
Pull set went well, some adjustments made, I really prefer splitting arms up now between push and pull.
Question: Is leg volume to high? Should I drop an exercise and increase sets? 4 - 5 sets of 8 heavy then 15-20 lighter for squat movements?

Here is todays meals:
1/9/2024​
Protein
70​
60​
55​
15​
55​
70​
30​
355​
Fat
10​
5​
5​
14​
5​
15​
10​
64​
Carbs
5​
15​
24​
14​
24​
10​
8​
100​
Shake with soy and whey protein with fruitNaked whey shake with strawberries and almond milkstewed chicken and white riceoutright bar as a snackstewed chicken and white riceNaked Whey and almond butter smoothieBaked chicken pieces

Here are todays weights:
Bent over row4x20155lbI can go heavier, Thursday I will do 185lbs.
Single arm DB rows4x8/4x1585lbs/ 65lbs
V-Taper row4x9/4x1550lbs/ 40lbsWill jump to 65/ 55lbs Thursday
Shrugs4x8/4x20275/ 225Feels about right.
Standing DB Upright row4x6/4x3030/20lbs
Hammer curl sideways4x6/4x2045lbs/35lbsThese were tough
Seated hammer curls 45 degrees4x6/4x2035lbs/25lbsFeels about about right, maybe 40/30 Thursday.
Reverse grip straight bar3x3040lbs
Zottman curl3x6/3x1525lbs/15lbsDestroyed arms
DB Curls – Standing2x5020lb each/15lbsshaking, last set arms were so swollen could barely doa single curl.
No matter what set or rep I do, I can never win, I am a gluten for punishment, mathematically I will never win the battle but don't tell my feeble mind that, I just keep going. Any feedback on Meso cycles for hypertrophic training, I notice many IBBF guys run these sort of programs, what are the drawbacks if any in your eyes? I am questioning this format for a EQ/Test cycle down the road.

Thanks guys


Mark
this is a great workout bro. keep these updates coming
 
I us
Very much so, eating is getting easier now as well. The insta pot cooks great tasting meals quickly and I’m able to cook more in bulk to store in the fridge. I enjoy shakes and my egg whites but nothing tastes better than rice and steamed chicken thigh's with a little homemade bbq sauce and vegetables on the side. All the fat from thighs is removed once you steam it.

I love my instapot also. Makes things a lot easier
 
Good push today, I will push 255+ on Monday for flat chest and go for 175+ for incline.
Triceps felt really solid today, 40lb skull crushers were heavy for me, definitely room to improve, the 30lb drop for high reps felt killer, I could feel the muscle working nicely. Shoulders I am staying at the low end of the spectrum until I can switch my entire routine and separate chest and shoulder workouts.

Here are my meals for the day, chicken and rice and vegetables does not get old at all, I get to actually eat what I want this way, I love it.

1/11/2024​
Protein
70​
25​
50​
70​
30​
70​
70​
385​
Fat
15​
4​
5​
10​
2​
10​
18​
64​
Carbs
4​
30​
10​
24​
5​
20​
4​
97​
Scrambled eggs, pinch of cheese, whey shakeHot rice cereal, half banana and almond milk. 25g isolate shake, pre workout 30 min before liftingWhey shake and almond milk11oz steamed chicken thighs with BBQ sauce and 1/2 cup white riceGrilled chicken breast with a few drops of coconut aminos11oz steamed chicken thighs with BBQ sauce and 1/2 cup white riceWhole fat yogurt and whey with almond milk shake

Weights for the day: I started up at 225 after warming up and I felt like my second and third sets were the strongest after increasing weights, does this indicate that I should push a higher weight pre workout then move to a higher initial working weight? I am thinking I can move to 255lbs on Monday after rest and then do a set of 235x8 before the 255lb set, would that make sense?

1/11/2024​
Flat BB bench4x6/ 4x20,18,16,15245/235/225/225 drop set 185lbsI think I can push 255 for at least 5-6 on one set.
Incline BB bench4x8/ 4x20165/135
Close grip BB bench4x6/ 4x18-20135/115These are difficult for me right now.
Upright DB raise - supinated3x10/ 3x2020/10
DB pullover3x2570lbsThese hit hard on chest days, keeping in the Push rotation.
Tricep press barbell3x20135lbsVery sore here, working the triceps in a different form fatigues me faster.
Skull crushers3x6/3x2040lbs/30lbsdestroyed after two sets
Tricep Kickbacks4x6/4x2035lbs/25lbsSplit these for a late afternoon set, I was trashed
Standing side deltoid raise w/ 15sec pause after rep 13x8/ 3x2010lbs/5lbsAble to hit shoulders cleanly, triceps totally fatigued.
Rear deltoid supinated raises3x2025lbs
Front deltoid raises standing3x3010
Single arm DB raise standing3x1515lbs

Thanks guys for the input, will post after tomorrow s PUSH.


Mark
 
Good push today, I will push 255+ on Monday for flat chest and go for 175+ for incline.
Triceps felt really solid today, 40lb skull crushers were heavy for me, definitely room to improve, the 30lb drop for high reps felt killer, I could feel the muscle working nicely. Shoulders I am staying at the low end of the spectrum until I can switch my entire routine and separate chest and shoulder workouts.

Here are my meals for the day, chicken and rice and vegetables does not get old at all, I get to actually eat what I want this way, I love it.

1/11/2024​
Protein
70​
25​
50​
70​
30​
70​
70​
385​
Fat
15​
4​
5​
10​
2​
10​
18​
64​
Carbs
4​
30​
10​
24​
5​
20​
4​
97​
Scrambled eggs, pinch of cheese, whey shakeHot rice cereal, half banana and almond milk. 25g isolate shake, pre workout 30 min before liftingWhey shake and almond milk11oz steamed chicken thighs with BBQ sauce and 1/2 cup white riceGrilled chicken breast with a few drops of coconut aminos11oz steamed chicken thighs with BBQ sauce and 1/2 cup white riceWhole fat yogurt and whey with almond milk shake

Weights for the day: I started up at 225 after warming up and I felt like my second and third sets were the strongest after increasing weights, does this indicate that I should push a higher weight pre workout then move to a higher initial working weight? I am thinking I can move to 255lbs on Monday after rest and then do a set of 235x8 before the 255lb set, would that make sense?

1/11/2024​
Flat BB bench4x6/ 4x20,18,16,15245/235/225/225 drop set 185lbsI think I can push 255 for at least 5-6 on one set.
Incline BB bench4x8/ 4x20165/135
Close grip BB bench4x6/ 4x18-20135/115These are difficult for me right now.
Upright DB raise - supinated3x10/ 3x2020/10
DB pullover3x2570lbsThese hit hard on chest days, keeping in the Push rotation.
Tricep press barbell3x20135lbsVery sore here, working the triceps in a different form fatigues me faster.
Skull crushers3x6/3x2040lbs/30lbsdestroyed after two sets
Tricep Kickbacks4x6/4x2035lbs/25lbsSplit these for a late afternoon set, I was trashed
Standing side deltoid raise w/ 15sec pause after rep 13x8/ 3x2010lbs/5lbsAble to hit shoulders cleanly, triceps totally fatigued.
Rear deltoid supinated raises3x2025lbs
Front deltoid raises standing3x3010
Single arm DB raise standing3x1515lbs

Thanks guys for the input, will post after tomorrow s PUSH.


Mark
@man05 your protein is perfect
always do UP and stay UP
 
agree a hundred percent healthy foods taste good once you stop being a crack addict to junk food
My addiction became liquid egg whites and whey 24/7, now supplement with these things in moderation. I’m guessing should gain some more size eating real food now.
 
whole eggs are always going to be better than egg whites
I agree but I need some new ways to eat them, I can only eat scrambles and fried eggs so much.
 
chicken thighs and barbecue sauce sounds good
Homemade sauce, only honey I skip the sugar.


My wife gave me the recipe and I just steam the chicken thighs after I saute them real quick, the fat melts off and they are moist and taste really good. 11oz 70grams protein, I add some white rice and steamed vegetables. My body feels totally new since Stevesmi and other pushed me to chill out. Shakes and egg whites. Golden advice
 
Get the skull crushers up and your bench will be better
What do you think about dropping the tricep press on the bench to focus on more weight and 5 sets doing skull crushers? By the time I hit skull crushers I’m starting to get fatigued, if I prioritize that movement I will push more weight for more reps, good or bad idea?

Thank you sir.
 
not bad doing flat chest and inclines
I want more, Id like to hit 275 flat bench as a 2024 goal and 200 on incline.
 
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