Totally hypothetically speaking/thinking

[Dial_tone]

where the hell is phatchik when ya need her.

 

[Bikini Mod]

you're right...I'm going back in the kitchen to finish HT's supper

*cracks whip*

Bitch dont whine, jess git er done!

 

[H_T_]

*cracks whip*

Bitch dont whine, jess git er done!

i find women in their mid 30's and beyond far superior for meeting a mans needs than younger women. i wonder why that is? is it because we have broken you? good training? unyielding love?

 

[alien amp pharm]

i find women in their mid 30's and beyond far superior for meeting a mans needs than younger women. i wonder why that is? is it because we have broken you? good training? unyielding love?

They know their good looks and tight body are near an end. Therefore they learn their role.

 

[Bikini Mod]

i find women in their mid 30's and beyond far superior for meeting a mans needs than younger women. i wonder why that is? is it because we have broken you? good training? unyielding love?

Why the sudden contradiction?

Could it be because you have been properly pwned and finally "get it"?

Nope. I am not biting. Sorry.

 

[Frisky]

They know their good looks and tight body are near an end. Therefore they learn their role.

Like you have ever actually had a tight body to begin with.... bitch please

 

[Bikini Mod]

They know their good looks and tight body are near an end. Therefore they learn their role.

Again... another contradiction.

I thought that ALL WOMEN above the age of 18 were useless aging hags.

Dayum will you silly boys do a huddle and git yer stories straight.

And I thought men were simple. I was sooooooooo wrong dammit.

 

[Y_lifter]

They gotta be at least 21 so they can go on a beer run when I need it.

 

[alien amp pharm]

Again... another contradiction.

I thought that ALL WOMEN above the age of 18 were useless aging hags.

Dayum will you silly boys do a huddle and git yer stories straight.

And I thought men were simple. I was sooooooooo wrong dammit.

When did I say females were useless?

I can think of many uses for them.

 

[Bikini Mod]

They gotta be at least 21 so they can go on a beer run when I need it.

LOL

 

[Frisky]

When did I say females were useless?

I can think of many uses for them.

What... strap on your velcro shoes?

 

[Bikini Mod]

When did I say females were useless?

I can think of many uses for them.

Actually I am still trying to figure why females NEED men.

Help me out here as I am at a loss.

 

[krishna]

Men who degrade women show an obvious lack of security. We all know that if they were faced with a classy, pretty girl that they liked in person, they would just piss themselves and run off. That's why they have to act so tough and macho on the internet. Personally, I like women, so I'm nice to them. I've found that the more I respect women and treat them as my equal counterpart, the more respect I get in return from them. And since we have a mutual respect, why would I ruin that by degrading them? The ones who degrade women don't have that respect to begin with. I'm sure I'll get flamed by all the childish jack-offs who don't know how to interact with women, but if I really gave a shit, I wouldn't of posted this.

 

[alien amp pharm]

Men who degrade women show an obvious lack of security. We all know that if they were faced with a classy, pretty girl that they liked in person, they would just piss themselves and run off. That's why they have to act so tough and macho on the internet. Personally, I like women, so I'm nice to them. I've found that the more I respect women and treat them as my equal counterpart, the more respect I get in return from them. And since we have a mutual respect, why would I ruin that by degrading them? The ones who degrade women don't have that respect to begin with. I'm sure I'll get flamed by all the childish jack-offs who don't know how to interact with women, but if I really gave a shit, I wouldn't of posted this.

Stop it you are making me cry























with laughter!

 

[krishna]

Stop it you are making me cry























with laughter!

Right on time

 

[alien amp pharm]

Actually I am still trying to figure why females NEED men.

Help me out here as I am at a loss.

To avoid a nasty e-war, I will refraim from answering.


but in all honestly, a person male or female shouldn't need anybody. Sadly, most persons MUST have a significant other in his/her life.

 

[alien amp pharm]

Right on time

I'm right on more than just time.

I'm right on almost everything.

 

[krishna]

Actually I am still trying to figure why females NEED men.

Help me out here as I am at a loss.

I actually probably have more close girl friends than I do guy friends. Does that mean I'm gay

 

[H_T_]

Why the sudden contradiction?

Could it be because you have been properly pwned and finally "get it"?

Nope. I am not biting. Sorry.

i am so utterly unpwnable.

 

[Bikini Mod]

I actually probably have more close girl friends than I do guy friends. Does that mean I'm gay

Not at all darlin. Just means that you have not allowed your masculinity to impede your path to enlightenment.

 

[krishna]

Not at all darlin. Just means that you have not allowed your masculinity to impede your path to enlightenment.

Haha...I know I'm not gay lady, but thanks for lookin out

 

[H_T_]

I actually probably have more close girl friends than I do guy friends. Does that mean I'm gay

well, i guess you relate/communicate with women better than men. they aren't threatened by you. you can be one of those guys who sleeps in the same bed with a girl all night and not touch her. yes, you are gay.

 

[Bikini Mod]

To avoid a nasty e-war, I will refraim from answering.


but in all honestly, a person male or female shouldn't need anybody. Sadly, most persons MUST have a significant other in his/her life.

E-war?

None of this is personal so why should it matter?

Seriously... Why do women NEED men? I am not talking about a relationship here and yes there are many that NEED another to define themselves. That is true with BOTH sexes so it is not relevant to the question I asked.

 

[H_T_]

E-war?

None of this is personal so why should it matter?

Seriously... Why do women NEED men?

women can't unscrew jar lids. or make fire. man make fire. man strong.

 

[alien amp pharm]

I actually probably have more close girl friends than I do guy friends. Does that mean I'm gay

No it means you will always get crapped on and be the "nice guy" no girl wants.


I use to be that guy. I had a ton of female friends. I treated girls with respect, showering them with gifts, love, money, etc. Always trying to do right and be nice to them.

The females will not respect you. Most will only think of you as a friend. Any relationship you are/will be in will fall apart once the girl realizes you aren't a real man.....you are a female friend with a penis.

Sadly it took me most of my life to realize this.
Stop being the nice guy who kisses a girl's ass while she is out banging the bad boy at work.

 

[krishna]

well, i guess you relate/communicate with women better than men. they aren't threatened by you. you can be one of those guys who sleeps in the same bed with a girl all night and not touch her. yes, you are gay.

Actually, I've been told that girls do feel threatened by me until they get to know me. Or rather that I seem unapproachable - whatever that means. And I have slept next to girls without doing anything, but it was hard They usually end up wanting it shortly after that. Go figure, girls like it when you respect them. Who would of known.

 

[H_T_]

i see more ass than a toilet seat.

 

[bluepeter]

I'm beginning to understand needto's posts after reading this thread.

 

[krishna]

No it means you will always get crapped on and be the "nice guy" no girl wants.


I use to be that guy. I had a ton of female friends. I treated girls with respect, showering them with gifts, love, money, etc. Always trying to do right and be nice to them.

The females will not respect you. Most will only think of you as a friend. Any relationship you are/will be in will fall apart once the girl realizes you aren't a real man.....you are a female friend with a penis.

Sadly it took me most of my life to realize this.
Stop being the nice guy who kisses a girl's ass while she is out banging the bad boy at work.

If you only knew bro. I don't treat women any differently than I treat men or myself. It's not that I give them special treatment, it's that I am comfortable with them. Once you can acheive this, you'll be the one keeping it "friends" while they're the ones who want more. Then you can virtually have your pick.

 

[Bikini Mod]

women can't unscrew jar lids. or make fire. man make fire. man strong.

LOL Best post ever.

 

[H_T_]

Actually, I've been told that girls do feel threatened by me until they get to know me. Or rather that I seem unapproachable - whatever that means. And I have slept next to girls without doing anything, but it was hard . They usually end up wanting it shortly after that. Go figure, girls like it when you respect them. Who would of known.

yeah. i'm pretty unapproachable myself. so that's why i'll see a girl/woman and say "hey. come here." and like zombies, they slowly walk toward me and their eyes are wide, so deeply under my spell already.....

 

[Bikini Mod]

No it means you will always get crapped on and be the "nice guy" no girl wants.


I use to be that guy. I had a ton of female friends. I treated girls with respect, showering them with gifts, love, money, etc. Always trying to do right and be nice to them.

The females will not respect you. Most will only think of you as a friend. Any relationship you are/will be in will fall apart once the girl realizes you aren't a real man.....you are a female friend with a penis.

Sadly it took me most of my life to realize this.
Stop being the nice guy who kisses a girl's ass while she is out banging the bad boy at work.

Aha there you have it elite. How he earned his card in the he-man woman haters club.

Did the thought ever occur to you that the women with self-esteem so low that they run after the bad-boys are not worthy of your time anyway? And that perhaps instead of becoming a he-man woman hater you need only change the type of WOMAN that you pursue?





Nnnnnnnnnaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh

 

[Bikini Mod]

Actually, I've been told that girls do feel threatened by me until they get to know me. Or rather that I seem unapproachable - whatever that means. And I have slept next to girls without doing anything, but it was hard They usually end up wanting it shortly after that. Go figure, girls like it when you respect them. Who would of known.

THE HELL YOU SAY?!??!!!

 

[alien amp pharm]

Aha there you have it elite. How he earned his card in the he-man woman haters club.

Did the thought ever occur to you that the women with self-esteem so low that they run after the bad-boys are not worthy of your time anyway? And that perhaps instead of becoming a he-man woman hater you need only change the type of WOMAN that you pursue?





Nnnnnnnnnaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh

No, you're all pretty much the same.

I simply changed my approach, not the women, and it's worked flawlessly since.

 

[krishna]

No, you're all pretty much the same.

I simply changed my approach, not the women, and it's worked flawlessly since.

I have a pretty shady past bro. I've actually been to prison for a few years. So with me they get the bad boy turned good who they can actually count on for a change. So, with being who I am, and my reputation, I don't have to be mean to girls, and I can still get the good ones, the bad ones, and all the ones in between.

 

[Bikini Mod]

No, you're all pretty much the same.

I simply changed my approach, not the women, and it's worked flawlessly since.

Now that makes PERFECT sense.

Rock on my brother! Rock on!!

 

[H_T_]

i need to continuely reel in quality ass. it makes me feel good. it's like getting a raise based on merit or winning a race or getting a PR in the gym. then, i like to do as many depraved things as i can to her as possible. nothing makes me happier than to hear a woman say "i've never done that before, omg, wow." it's like climbing a mountain.

 

[Bikini Mod]

i need to continuely reel in quality ass. it makes me feel good. it's like getting a raise based on merit or winning a race or getting a PR in the gym. then, i like to do as many depraved things as i can to her as possible. nothing makes me happier than to hear a woman say "i've never done that before, omg, wow." it's like climbing a mountain.

I actually believe you are being honest.

 

[H_T_]

I actually believe you are being honest.

i am. it's awesome when you finish up and you're both looking at one another with that "holy fuck, did you just see that???" look of shock/suprise/awe. breathing, actually gasping, for air. like you just got off a rollercoaster/house of horrors ride. it's pretty much a justification for existing, imo.

 

[alien amp pharm]

i am. it's awesome when you finish up and you're both looking at one another with that "holy fuck, did you just see that???" look of shock/suprise/awe. breathing, actually gasping, for air. like you just got off a rollercoaster/house of horrors ride. it's pretty much a justification for existing, imo.

and considering your herpes, it's probably equally as scary as a rollercoaster/house of horrors ride.




haha. Oh wait, we are suppose to be mean to the chicks not one another. My bad.
Afterall, we are woman haters as they say.

 

[H_T_]

and considering your herpes, it's probably equally as scary as a rollercoaster/house of horrors ride.




haha. Oh wait, we are suppose to be mean to the chicks not one another. My bad.
Afterall, we are woman haters as they say.

i just wanna see BikiniMom's Brown Flower....

 

[Frisky]

i am. it's awesome when you finish up and you're both looking at one another with that "holy fuck, did you just see that???" look of shock/suprise/awe. breathing, actually gasping, for air. like you just got off a rollercoaster/house of horrors ride. it's pretty much a justification for existing, imo.

so basically you grab her by the hair and shove her face into a flushing toilet and think she likes it? Cause bro, I know you are not talking about sex... not with you... no damn way...

 

[jnevin]

So, what's this latest boys vs. girls thread about. He-whores can't call she-whores whores?

Fucking christ

 

[H_T_]

so basically you grab her by the hair and shove her face into a flushing toilet and think she likes it? Cause bro, I know you are not talking about sex... not with you... no damn way...

Frisky, you would sleep with me, just to find out if i can walk the walk, since i can talk the talk. i know how girls like you think. i've already counted you as a lay, anyway. i'll be near LA soon enough, to come down like a hurricane and disrupt your quaint existences. you & Feisty. so, make sure you have an extra toothbrush, and i get your pillow, too.

 

[Bikini Mod]

i just wanna see BikiniMom's Brown Flower....

Just get in line with all the other men...

 

[velvett]

when your strip away all the bullshit we all desire the same things

trust, respect, reliability and great sex

 

[jnevin]

when your strip away all the bullshit we all desire the same things

trust, respect, reliability and great sex

... and not to be cuddled too much because it gets too hot and you feel claustrophobic and you'd think that 8 years together you'd figure it out.

 

[H_T_]

when your strip away all the bullshit we all desire the same things

trust, respect, reliability and great sex

i'd like to see more commercial free TV. i love mayo in squeezable bottles.

 

[H_T_]

Just get in line with all the other men...

Unacceptable.

 

[jackangel]

it's definitely a good idea to change your personality in order to have more success with certain members of the opposite sex. it's the most worthwhile and important goal a person can have. that doesn't make you weak at all. it surely doesn't mean that you lack character, either. no sir.

on the other hand, it's completely absurd to maintain some sense of self because you value certain qualities regardless of what they get you in life. that would be nothing short of silly.

 

[Frisky]

Frisky, you would sleep with me, just to find out if i can walk the walk, since i can talk the talk. i know how girls like you think. i've already counted you as a lay, anyway. i'll be near LA soon enough, to come down like a hurricane and disrupt your quaint existences. you & Feisty. so, make sure you have an extra toothbrush, and i get your pillow, too.

I have extra pillows, and I also have a lady bug blankey and pillow cover, and I'm sure my little precious (dog) would love to cuddle up with you.

and btw...... yes..... sleep

 

[Frisky]

when your strip away all the bullshit we all desire the same things

trust, respect, reliability and great sex

hell yea

 

[alien amp pharm]

it's definitely a good idea to change your personality in order to have more success with certain members of the opposite sex. it's the most worthwhile and important goal a person can have. that doesn't make you weak at all. it surely doesn't mean that you lack character, either. no sir.

on the other hand, it's completely absurd to maintain some sense of self because you value certain qualities regardless of what they get you in life. that would be nothing short of silly.

If this is meant for me - it's really a matter of realizing my way of thinking was wrong. A change was needed.

There is really no sacrificing anything once I realized my philosophy was completely wrong. Only an idiot keeps repeating a mistake expecting a favorable outcome.

 

[Frisky]

If this is meant for me - it's really a matter of realizing my way of thinking was wrong. A change was needed.

There is really no sacrificing anything once I realized my philosophy was completely wrong. Only an idiot keeps repeating a mistake expecting a favorable outcome.

 

[Bikini Mod]

Unacceptable.

Sorry darlin but that line is about 5 years long!

 

[swolenole]

not flaming on anyone, male or female... but would like an honest answer. EF, is getting close to 50/50 eh...

if most women venture intoC&C and voice ANY kind of opinion, (that is on an open thread asking for it) they are dragged down lower than dirt. I've been here for years and have seen it time and time again.

AND DON'T GIVE ME THIS BULL SHIT ABOUT WHAT EF MALE FUCKED WHAT EF FEMALE... it takes two

Still the same ol bull shit!

I've taken people disagree with me over and over, and that is fine, but I'll be gosh dang if you disagree with certain members, you are a cunt or a bictch or ........ well ya name it.

EF is and should be versatile... be it male female pt of view or etc... seems lately the females that log on are pushed away when they don't bow down low fucking self esteem assholes that expect for women to be inferior

I guess I'll always be a bitch in these peeps eyes, because I REFUSE to not bow down to these assholes

I've been on the recieving end of being bashed, treated inferior because I AM FEMALE. Its really starting to get old, and if George wants a very versitile forum things need to be done about this shit. I have been called every name in the book... and im all cool with that. BUT That is NOT a way to conduct business and get members. The fucking ego men here find every damn way possible to degrage the women here whilst at the same time post up coke whores and sluts. Ya know what.... keep your opinion to yourself ... as you ask us to.

BRR,George,Digger,... this has to be addressed... I help tons via pm.. as a member... not even a mod. Yet we have these ass wipes degrading when myself or other active chicks that compete put pics up because the fuckers are jealous... YES jealous because the are fucking weak and couldn't lift a gosh damn double whopper.

If they aren't so damn envious why do they continue to hound and hound on us? I know C&C is totally different from the womens forum or the training forum, but it doesn't matter when or where things are posted there is constant negativity. This wards a lot of us off from suggesting people to come here.

Personally from a fitness and training perspective....I think some of the women are phenominal that participate in this forum....from your gallery yourself included....I don't know if you are insinuating you are bashed on a personal level or for your physical shape??

 

[Smurfy]

women can't unscrew jar lids. or make fire. man make fire. man strong.

lmao! I stopped here. must. not. keep. reading!


frisky, you know men and women are different and will always be different and in certain environments, people get treated better than in other environments, whether its for their gender, race, clothing style, IQ, income, Bench press 1rep Max, etc and so on.

who gives a crap is what I'm sayin.

 

[blueta2]

Stop it you are making me cry

with laughter!

Do u have a small pee-pee?

 

[blueta2]

No, you're all pretty much the same.

I simply changed my approach, not the women, and it's worked flawlessly since.

Bad boys are over-rated and dull! It's fun when you're 20, not when you're a grown women.
So good luck with all the little girls

 

[jnevin]

lmao! I stopped here. must. not. keep. reading!


frisky, you know men and women are different and will always be different and in certain environments, people get treated better than in other environments, whether its for their gender, race, clothing style, IQ, income, Bench press 1rep Max, etc and so on.

who gives a crap is what I'm sayin.

agreed

 

[KillahBee]

lmao! I stopped here. must. not. keep. reading!


frisky, you know men and women are different and will always be different and in certain environments, people get treated better than in other environments, whether its for their gender, race, clothing style, IQ, income, Bench press 1rep Max, etc and so on.

who gives a crap is what I'm sayin.

I haven't been reading this abortion of a thread, but I assume someone is pulling the "men can do this but women can't?!" card.

Any person who is logical and mature will admit that men have advantages given to them from society AND women do. I have seen dozens of times already in my short career a woman get a job or preferential treatment cause of her physical attributes - and most of them didn't ask for it. Women have JUST as many advantages handed to them as men.

It's fucking life. Usually people get past this issue at around age 18 or so.

 

[jackangel]

1. lotta skanks up in this thread. whores too.

2. next time, please name names and flame flames.

 

[KillahBee]

I wonder which side smurfy is on. I mean, she has some semblance of a hoo-ha, but loves the tuna

 

[jackangel]

lmao at smurfy's mass fitting on one side

 

[Smurfy]

lmao at smurfy's mass fitting on one side

indeed!

 

[H_T_]

HT stronger than stupid women.

 

[Bikini Mod]

I haven't been reading this abortion of a thread, but I assume someone is pulling the "men can do this but women can't?!" card.

Any person who is logical and mature will admit that men have advantages given to them from society AND women do. I have seen dozens of times already in my short career a woman get a job or preferential treatment cause of her physical attributes - and most of them didn't ask for it. Women have JUST as many advantages handed to them as men.

It's fucking life. Usually people get past this issue at around age 18 or so.

DOOD... not even.

I guess you missed my post where I said that I am perfectly capable of and do quite often open my own door. If a man is of the mindset that he doesnt willingly WANT to grace me with the good manners that his mother brought him up with then I still dont feel the need to call his mother a skank ho.

It's really THAT simple.

 

[manny78]

WHat's going on here ?

 

[blueta2]

WHat's going on here ?

women = 10
men = 0

 

[Bikini Mod]

women = 10
men = 0

Pretty much

 

[Smurfy]

I dont think this thread was really hypothetical.

 

[KillahBee]

Man, if I were KB of 6 months ago - this place would have gotten tore up.

Like a virgin on prom night

 

[anthrax]

Someone moves this thread to the "girls under 16 yo" forum

 

[Smurfy]

Man, if I were KB of 6 months ago - this place would have gotten tore up.

Like a virgin on prom night

Not with YOUR penis though.

 

[bran987]

oh shit a thread started by frisky with almost 200 posts is it time to lock? I didn't read it.

 

[PBR]

im not going to read the entire thread...but i will say this: i have met some great people here...male and female. i enjoy the company of females here alot, because its not often we as men get the privilege to mingle in the views and conversation of such a diverse group of women...we also get the company of women who have a mind and willingness to enter into any kind of topic, regardless of its element...the men here would find this a boring, one sided, and shallow theme if it were not for the women of elite...
i will personally thank you Frisky for being here and all you have put up with...i will take the opportunity to thank all the other ladies for putting up with us and being here too- you girls are truely the spice of life here...thanks.

 

[H_T_]

oh shit a thread started by frisky with almost 200 posts is it time to lock? I didn't read it.

if I were Bran, i would lock this thread. just because good mods do that kind of stuff.

 

[Frisky]

im not going to read the entire thread...but i will say this: i have met some great people here...male and female. i enjoy the company of females here alot, because its not often we as men get the privilege to mingle in the views and conversation of such a diverse group of women...we also get the company of women who have a mind and willingness to enter into any kind of topic, regardless of its element...the men here would find this a boring, one sided, and shallow theme if it were not for the women of elite...
i will personally thank you Frisky for being here and all you have put up with...i will take the opportunity to thank all the other ladies for putting up with us and being here too- you girls are truely the spice of life here...thanks.

Thank you PBR, I am by far perfect, but whom is? I guess if there were no women on EF then who would the ego bastards bash on? eh... LOL

I've been torn from asshole to neck, time and time again. Thank goodness I have tough skin. If I have an issue I take it out and say it upfront to whom that issue is with. More times than others I get the reply that they are just joking around. COOL! all fine ya know...

I'm not up and leaving... ah hell NO, then I would have to spend my days without irritating people over and over with my memememe threads

I've been thru alot of shit these last few months, from work, to home, to medical to family .... need I go on... (nah, prolly not)

 

[Bikini Mod]

Thank you PBR, I am by far perfect, but whom is? I guess if there were no women on EF then who would the ego bastards bash on? eh... LOL

I've been torn from asshole to neck, time and time again. Thank goodness I have tough skin. If I have an issue I take it out and say it upfront to whom that issue is with. More times than others I get the reply that they are just joking around. COOL! all fine ya know...

I'm not up and leaving... ah hell NO, then I would have to spend my days without irritating people over and over with my memememe threads

I've been thru alot of shit these last few months, from work, to home, to medical to family .... need I go on... (nah, prolly not)

Feel you gurl...

Imagine how great it would feel if 99.9% of the time THEY WEREN'T joking.

In the end it's not real though.... is it?

I suppose I should just start calling a man's mother a skank ho if he refuses to hold open the door for me.

Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh MY MOTHER raised me better than that.

 

[alien amp pharm]

Women Power!

 

[Bikini Mod]

Women Power!

Actually most women haven't a clue how powerful they are. Keeps us all down.

It never ceases to amaze me how a woman will step all over 10 other women simply to pander to a man.

We have no one to blame but ourselves if we dont DEMAND respect from men (which is what this thread is about) and fail to raise our sons to respect women.

(PS - taking shit from men is THE OPPOSITE of demonstrating how to achieve this to our sons AND daughters.)

 

[blueta2]

Actually most women haven't a clue how powerful they are. Keeps us all down.

It never ceases to amaze me how a woman will step all over 10 other women simply to pander to a man.

We have no one to blame but ourselves if we dont DEMAND respect from men (which is what this thread is about) and fail to raise our sons to respect women.

(PS - taking shit from men is THE OPPOSITE of demonstrating this to our sons and daughters.)

best post I've ever read on EF ;-)

 

[Frisky]

its not all about 'women power' but those of us that ACTUALLY want equality, are NOT asking for special privileges. If I sit here and toot my own horn then some moron will come in and make note of that, so I'll refrain........... well maybe not . I make my OWN way, have since I was a ripe age of 16 and never turned back. I've never had to ask one person for a damn dime to help me, I've put myself thru school... hell I even paid for my own damn tits. *wink* LOL

I have raised my son and my daughter to 'respect' both genders, and treat each equal. And by equal I really mean equal... I don't condone a woman thinking she can put herself in a male field and be treated different, and vise versa. I teach my son to respect women that respect him.

 

[Bikini Mod]

I teach my children to respect themselves above all.

I have been VERY generous when I could be (and still am) but I have also been forced to ask for help (EXTREMELY humbling).

No one picked me up off the floor - but ME.

Now that I have a partner again, I have to say it feels nice to not feel like I am the only person on an overcrowded planet.

As for gender differences and equality. This is my take on that:

I would rather be rescued from a burning building by a MAN than a woman as he would most likely be far stronger and be better able to save me.

As for cops and combat - I believe that women are far better suited and more vicious. Hand to hand, of course the man would win. But pointing and shooting - gender is not an issue.

As for any other job. Let a man break his back. Why would I WANT to dig a ditch? But that doesnt mean that a woman would be incapable of running the country.

I am a woman and I enjoy being treated as such. If a man does not treat me the way that I wish to be treated (or woman for that matter) then I bid them good day and keep on walking. However, if I am in a room where I WANT to be then I refuse to be chased off by some moron (male or female) whose mother did not teach the lesson of SELF-RESPECT.

 

[alien amp pharm]

You bitches want to slobber on my knob ?

 

[mrdeeznuts]

i love all u over oj'd females on ef with enlarged regions

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

someone posted this here a while back

"So, if you are between the ages of 15 and 25, or mentally so, pay attention and tattoo these pearls on the inside of your thigh. When you have lived a long and failed life of disasterous encounters with the fairer sex, you will want to read back my little laundry list and slap yourself for not taking it to heart.

Item 1: Do not listen to what women have to say about women. They are not privy to the keen powers of self-instropection, nor are they honest when the mirror paints the picture of womanhood in a less-than-flattering light. If women were to be trusted about how they tick, we'd all have it figured out, and women would be happy. Society is afraid of saying what I am, that women have been led to believe they are a noble half of the human race, and more suited to matters of the heart. Fact is, they're just as clueless as you. Next.

Item 2: Women are 95% a product of the relationship (or lack thereof) between they and their fathers. Men are made by their mothers, women by their dads. If daddy beat them, left them, or otherwise was a shitbag, you had better believe they will not have healthy impulses and chaos will follow them throughout their days. This is an absolute, so trust me when I say, if they don't have a healthy relationship with pops, they're not having one with you either, so fucking run. Yes, they're going to be fun in the sackeroo, but trust me....run. That other 5% of their nature comes from lucky genetics, but you're not turning that into anything by yourself. You ain't fixing a broken girl, so just run.

Item 3: To attract women, you need but one thing....to be in charge. Not necessarily of the world or the building you work in, but in charge of your surroundings. You need to be in charge of whatever setting you and the womenz will be in. In any herd of animals, the females obey the alpha. You must be, no matter what the situation, the "guy". You might need to be the funny guy, or the cool guy, or the host, or the entertainer, or even the "taken" one, but you had better be the center of attention that day. To be this thing, you need some confidence, you need your shit in order, and you need some sort of talent that will put you in the alpha spot - no matter if that's at the library or at the night club. Women do not fawn at the slowest, weakest gazelle. They look at what's running out front, and follow. Get your life in order. Women are not laying in the tub right now letting the water hit the pink parts dreaming about a gun nut who's playing Rainbow Six in his mom's basement. You follow? This leads me to item 4.

Item 4: Women, real women, do not want a boy. They want a man, so be one. Don't get dickhead haircuts, tribal tats, spinners for your ghey car, the latest trendy clothes or skin care products. These are the tools of vain boys, and a woman does not want these things from you even if she acts like she does. You may get some dates, you may get laid, you may even get married by being a boy.....but bet your ass that your woman will dream of a man (which is not you).

Item 5: Women, contrary to ARFcom legend, do not want sex that often...especially once the relationship cools off (normalizes). If they do crave the weenie all the time, they are messed up (see item #1). Women do not have testesterone pumping through their organs, and will not crave sex, at least not like you think they do. Get used to it, deal with it, and make your peace with the fact that a normal woman wants sex about 1/10th as much as you. Sadly, the sexaholic women are usually reliving some sort of childhood trauma, and sex gives them control over their neuroses about that past. See, women have sex for very different reasons than we do. They have it to feel sexy, to feel loved, to feel wanted, even to feel in charge....but they don't have that physical drive like us. We, by contrast, have sex to purge the evil venom from our balls, and that's about the extent of it.

Item 6: There is nothing a woman can sniff out like desperation. If you have even one tiny cell of creepy in you, she'll smell it all over you like a possum carcus in the sun. One of the lessons of adulthood is FUCKING RELAX. Do it, for all our sakes. Don't chase women, for there is no need. Be a man, be yourself, have a good time and get your life in order, and the women will forever come to you. Believe this fellas.....nothing could be truer. If young swingset would have only known this.... but that's another story and it involves copious masturbation and alot of Boone's Farm.

Item 7: Women, contrary to another urban legend, are shitbags too. They will have you convinced, if you talk to them enough, that they are the masters of reason and emotion. Bullshit, fellas. They are contriving, maniacal masters of chaos and work feverishly against their own happiness sometimes. Nothing will disturb a woman so deeply to her core as true contentment. Some women shudder at the thought of a placid, pleasing life. It's a very rare thing, a woman at peace and comfortable with herself....so when you find one, say "I do" and keep her away from other women. Wanna see proof of this? Work along side alot of women. When one finds happiness, the others go about dismantling hers with ant-like industry. Nothing on earth is quite so destructive as women screwing with a happy one. It's a pretty safe bet that if your lady friends hang out with other girls, they will try (even unwittingly), to fuck you up. Sorry girls, you know this one is true.

Item 8: Get to know your prospective inlaws....even if you have no idea you're going to marry the girl you're banging. If you don't love them like they're your own parents, RUN. Seriously, it's that simple. Run. Look at their relationship - her mother and father's. Look at it hard, because that's you in 25 years....or some variation of it. Your woman will make sure of it, because she's hard wired to.

Item 9: A woman's beauty is her worst enemy, and her only true servant. Be very afraid of a woman who has relied, or counted on her looks to survive or succeed - for when those looks or your attention to them wanes, she will self-destruct before your eyes. You will come home to find her gone, or on top of your best friend. Again, not to drive a point too fine, but stay away from the 10's. A stripper model does not live to enjoy a 50 year wedding anniversary, and she will not change your diapers when you're old. Believe it or not, that stuff really matters. You, like women, are driven by your nature. If you're always attracted to the worst kind of women, it's not their fault bucko. It's yours....so fight your impulses and go with what's smart not what "feels good".

Item 10: Lastly, I leave you with this. It's a difficult lesson to be a man. It's a painful, self-sacrificing labor and part of the human condition to be a man. You must accept that much of your life and your ties to women rely on your honor and your good nature. Sadly, most of us choose our mates based on nothing more than a tiny dab of sexual experience and a lot of ignorance about human nature. The women you meet, fall in love with, screw, and hurt, are all human beings with complex pasts, desires and dreams. Treat each woman, no matter who she is, as if she is your best friend's girl. Give her respect, even if you don't choose to engage her in a meaningful way. Understand that she is a daughter, a sister and someone's baby and if she's not good enough to be kind to, then leave her alone. Your dealings with the chicks will come back to haunt you, and each shitty act will be revisited on you, or your children, or your future women. Trust me here...it really happens. Be a good man, a smart man and an observant man, and women will not be a source of pain in your life. Take my word on it."

most of the woman answers there

 

[Bikini Mod]

I wont disagree with the crux of what was said (sounds like a very Ranger-esque post if you ask me - too bad he couldnt follow his own advice if he DID post this) but the spin was a bit off, sounded almost venomous. I feel the good advice was lost in the venom. But that is only my .02

I will COMPLETELY agree with Item 10 though...

Item 10: Lastly, I leave you with this. It's a difficult lesson to be a man. It's a painful, self-sacrificing labor and part of the human condition to be a man. You must accept that much of your life and your ties to women rely on your honor and your good nature. Sadly, most of us choose our mates based on nothing more than a tiny dab of sexual experience and a lot of ignorance about human nature. The women you meet, fall in love with, screw, and hurt, are all human beings with complex pasts, desires and dreams. Treat each woman, no matter who she is, as if she is your best friend's girl. Give her respect, even if you don't choose to engage her in a meaningful way. Understand that she is a daughter, a sister and someone's baby and if she's not good enough to be kind to, then leave her alone. Your dealings with the chicks will come back to haunt you, and each shitty act will be revisited on you, or your children, or your future women. Trust me here...it really happens. Be a good man, a smart man and an observant man, and women will not be a source of pain in your life. Take my word on it."

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

hitaussin posted it a while ago, had a nice story about where it came from

 

[Bikini Mod]

hitaussin posted it a while ago, had a nice story about where it came from

He's a good guy. Young but very astute.

 

[jnevin]

someone posted this here a while back

This is the only post that has made sense in this whole thread.

 

[Cutiebaby]

Ok really now. I have been abused horribly on this site! BY many.

Any how, IMHO the guys here do it for "shits and giggles" they see that you get all worked up and enjoy it....So they try at every chance that they get.
A few nameless people here remind me of little boys in school that sit behind you and pull your pig tails. Nothing harmful going on. Try not to take it so seriously!

 

[Frisky]

Ok really now. I have been abused horribly on this site! BY many.

Any how, IMHO the guys here do it for "shits and giggles" they see that you get all worked up and enjoy it....So they try at every chance that they get.
A few nameless people here remind me of little boys in school that sit behind you and pull your pig tails. Nothing harmful going on. Try not to take it so seriously!

ah... believe me, It doesn't get my thongs in a bunch... not now not ever. EF is only one click away from being logged off and I can walk away, still smiling. I once had a boy that thought pulling my pigtails would get my attention.... bwahahaha... little did he know.

 

[alien amp pharm]

Lots of chicks in denial up in this here thread.

You all know you care.

 

[Cutiebaby]

ah... believe me, It doesn't get my thongs in a bunch... not now not ever. EF is only one click away from being logged off and I can walk away, still smiling. I once had a boy that thought pulling my pigtails would get my attention.... bwahahaha... little did he know.

lol.I just assume turn around, punch em in their noses, and then walk on.
At first I let it bother me but after 1 year I am all like whatever. Plus IMO it has calmed down a lot here.

 

[Smurfy]

Lots of chicks in denial up in this here thread.

You all know you care.

I care. I care deeply. For each and every one of you. And that's right from the heart.

 

[Bikini Mod]

You know I was actually reflecting on that post and I have an exception to the part about looking at the girl's relationship with her dad and boy's relationship with his mother.

Growing up I had a WONDERFUL relationship with my father as I was his favored child. (As wonderful as you can with a volatile alcoholic that is) My brother was my mother's favorite and nobody gave a rat's ass sadly about my sister as she was a *surprize*.

My mother fucked both me (you all know how fucked up I have been) AND my brother up (my father finished fucking up my brother the little bit that she didnt and he is now and has been for all of his adult life an abusive addict) and my sister who turned out normal and healthy and is in a wonderfully loving marriage of over 10 years was essentially ignored by both parents.

I asked some shrinks how was it that my sister and I grew up in the same household with similar experiences (though thank God she didnt encounter near the awfull shit I did) and she chose a WONDERFUL life partner and I chose the freaking bottom of the barrell. (I actually hand-picked my brother-on-law and interfered in a good way to help them end up together but ultimately it was HER choice and a good one at that.)

Their answer shocked me.

"Your sister is ok now, due in large part because she was raised by YOU."

And finally I want to pass on one bit of knowledge that an EXCELLENT shrink imparted to me years ago.

"We will ALL fuck our kids up to some extent. Even the most well-meaning parent. Such is the nature of the relationship." (And yes, this man NEVER cursed but this time those were the words he used.) "The goal of good parenting is to raise our children with an ACCEPTABLE LEVEL of fucked-upness."

Then he told me:

"Do you know what it is called when we stop blaming our parents for how they fucked us up and assume personal responsibility and TRY to fix it?"

"THAT IS CALLED MATURITY."

My point in saying all this is I took exception to the notion that we are damned to be fucked up for the rest of our lives because our parents made it so.

WE ALL HAVE A CHOICE.

 

[manny78]

Lots of chicks in denial up in this here thread.

You all know you care.

What is this thread all about ?

 

[Bikini Mod]

What is this thread all about ?

Treating EVERYONE (including us lowly females) with a modicum of respect.

 

[marvelous54]

not flaming on anyone, male or female... but would like an honest answer. EF, is getting close to 50/50 eh...

if most women venture intoC&C and voice ANY kind of opinion, (that is on an open thread asking for it) they are dragged down lower than dirt. I've been here for years and have seen it time and time again.

AND DON'T GIVE ME THIS BULL SHIT ABOUT WHAT EF MALE FUCKED WHAT EF FEMALE... it takes two

Still the same ol bull shit!

I've taken people disagree with me over and over, and that is fine, but I'll be gosh dang if you disagree with certain members, you are a cunt or a bictch or ........ well ya name it.

EF is and should be versatile... be it male female pt of view or etc... seems lately the females that log on are pushed away when they don't bow down low fucking self esteem assholes that expect for women to be inferior

I guess I'll always be a bitch in these peeps eyes, because I REFUSE to not bow down to these assholes

I've been on the recieving end of being bashed, treated inferior because I AM FEMALE. Its really starting to get old, and if George wants a very versitile forum things need to be done about this shit. I have been called every name in the book... and im all cool with that. BUT That is NOT a way to conduct business and get members. The fucking ego men here find every damn way possible to degrage the women here whilst at the same time post up coke whores and sluts. Ya know what.... keep your opinion to yourself ... as you ask us to.

BRR,George,Digger,... this has to be addressed... I help tons via pm.. as a member... not even a mod. Yet we have these ass wipes degrading when myself or other active chicks that compete put pics up because the fuckers are jealous... YES jealous because the are fucking weak and couldn't lift a gosh damn double whopper.

If they aren't so damn envious why do they continue to hound and hound on us? I know C&C is totally different from the womens forum or the training forum, but it doesn't matter when or where things are posted there is constant negativity. This wards a lot of us off from suggesting people to come here.

What a crock of shit. Why does everything have to be sexist, racist, etc? I just assumed that getting flamed was part of posting on the C&C forum. Hell, I have started very few threads on C&C but I've been flamed in everyone of them and almost always by an EF female... and NO, none of my posts were directed or even associated with the degradation of women. If you need someone’s acceptance/approval on an internet forum to feel "equal" then your problem lies much deeper than your concerns of getting flamed.

This thread actually shocks me somewhat. Most of the women I have met on here seem like very strong willed women. I think most of them just choose to talk shit right back. I mean that’s what I do if a guy is flaming me. Isn’t that truly what makes us equals? The fact that we talk shit regardless of gender. If coddling is what you want then you should have never pushed for change… remember, that’s what women use to have.