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Sarge's Lifting Chronicles 2006-2007

Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

ck2006 said:
That just sounds so kinky LOL :heart:
You're naughty :velvett:


HAPPY TURKEY DAY EVERYONE!!

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I started off my festing day with huge plate of pancakes and eggs :) ... making sure I take my Gluc-R's and Sesas hour on the hour today, lol
 
Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

sgtslaughter said:
You're naughty :velvett:


HAPPY TURKEY DAY EVERYONE!!

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I started off my festing day with huge plate of pancakes and eggs :) ... making sure I take my Gluc-R's and Sesas hour on the hour today, lol
:evil: No comment
 
Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

*Bunny* said:
:evil: No comment
damn right :chomp:

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Well, the gym that I was told was open til' 4pm today was closed when i drove there around 1pm ... fuck.

Called 1.800.Free411 for about 5 other gym numbers in a 20 minute drive radius... nothing.

That sucks... I wanted to get a long walk in... it's pouring outside and i'm a vag so i'm not doing that.

Back to eating :)
 
Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

sgtslaughter said:
damn right :chomp:

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Well, the gym that I was told was open til' 4pm today was closed when i drove there around 1pm ... fuck.

Called 1.800.Free411 for about 5 other gym numbers in a 20 minute drive radius... nothing.

That sucks... I wanted to get a long walk in... it's pouring outside and i'm a vag so i'm not doing that.

Back to eating :)

Get your ass outside in that rain! hehehehe.....
Have a great turkey day!!
 
Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

Hey Sarge :wavey:
I was asked to put some input in your log about your back... so I did some skimmin Well I went back 30 pages and found everything I could on your back... Let's say I have 6 pages in Microsoft Word full of different things connected to your back. I'll copy those in the next post to make your longest thread post ever... :lmao:

Chronic back pain, I saw one note that it’s been at least like this from last spring.

I see you don't have insurance, no x-rays till Jan., you are seeing a chiropractor for some time now, (Sept 17th is as far as I read back) now 2-3 times a week for 4 weeks.
The chiro can’t get your lower back to crack. You had a neck issue with GM’s but I read prior to that that you had a pre-existing neck issue.

During that time I see 1 visit to a massage therapist Sept 30th.

Left leg ¼ inch longer then the right, knee issues, lower back locked up L1-L5, list your left flexor in one post as super tight (which one?!?), your cervical vertebrae were put in alignment and only a few days later they were back out of alignment per your posts.

Sleep on hotel beds a lot despite. You enjoy sleeping on your stomach, on your new bed. :evil:

Back is sore in the a.m. some days, gets sore with deads, putting your feet up causes excruciating pain.

One post you said your erectors were conditioned so you don’t get flare ups.. I would negate that thought.

I see one post you don’t need no stinkin advil, honey you need something!!!

You were looking at your back in one mirror thinking whoa where did those erectors come from?!? Yet in another post I do see that your BF was higher then what you wanted. Not trying to downplay all your hard work, but I think your erectors were so constricted that I could palpate them just by looking at them. Not necessarily a good thing to see your erectors in a mirror unless you are really low BF.

Standing Overhead DB extension felt like compressed your back 3 inches, Do not do those.

Summary:
-Sleep: You have to sleep on your back. Don’t use a pillow even roll up a towel just enough for neck support, and get comfy!

-I see you love stretching, lol Well… get used to that also. One stretch I would like to see you add is a psoas release technique. Go to my muscle thread under the Psoas post and it talks about it in there. I incerted some of the stuff about psoas here for you:

Psoas:
Origin: Bodies of T12 –L4 vertebrae
Insertion: Lesser Trochanter of Femur
Action: Hip Flexion, External Rotation of Femur

-I think Psoas could be one of the many tight muscles you have. But I think it will be tighter on your left side since you have said left side is tighter. What did the chiro say about pelvic alignment? That muscle alone can torque your pelvis. Since your L1-L5 seems to be tight that muscle connects from the T12-L4…
- The sensation of being centred and grounded comes from a healthy psoas in combination with a balanced weight-bearing pelvis. The keystone of skeletal alignment, it is the balanced pelvis that provides a base of support for the spine, ribcage, neck and head. It is the aligned pelvis that transfers weight down through the hip sockets, legs, knees and feet. If the bones do not support and transfer weight properly, it is the psoas muscle that is called upon to provide structural support.
- Chronic muscular tension, overdeveloped external muscles, and muscular substitutions can be linked to a tense or overworked psoas. Birth anomalies, falls, surgery, overexuberant stretching or weightlifting may create pelvic instability or affect the functioning of the psoas muscle.
- Increased risk of lower back injury during hip extension activities when knees are bent. After complete flexion of the hip, the lumbar spine will flex if movement is continued. The risk of injury is increased if the lumbar spine is not accustom to this movement or workload. Examples of affected exercises: Leg Press , Squat , Single Leg Squat . Example preventative / corrective exercise: Glute Stretch , Adductor Magnus Stretch.
- Back pain, exacerbated by heavy squatting, deadlifting, and lumbar flexion. Pain can limit lumbar spine flexion, reduced hip flexion, range of motion, a hypomobile or 'blocked' sacroiliac joint, possible rotated ilium, and increased muscle tone in TFL/psoas and gluteals.
-I think a chiro and a massage therapist work well together. I am amazed your chiro has not suggested for you to go to a massage therapist to help release the muscles then he can do the spine manipulations easier. I would not allow a chiro to crack my back if it was forced. There are definitely musculature imbalances in your back.
Would you go to an auto body detail shop to get your oil changed in your car?!? They both may deal with a car in general but each one specializes in a certain area, it’s the same with massage. A massage therapist specializes in muscles and releasing techniques, a chiro practices getting your bones back into alignment.
I would spend my money on a massage therapist to help get the muscle imbalances back into proportion then visit the chiro.
-As far as lifting any heavy weight bearing activity is only going to debilitate you more. I would focus more on lighter lifting mostly hypers unweighted higher reps followed by stretching. Add in unweighted supermans, opposite hand and knee extension on floor or on a ball, back twisting and breathing exercises, lat, psoas, glutes, hams, TFL, and quad stretches. The stretches every day. Pre-ice the back. If you know you did something to the back as far as lifting a box or etc.. I would automatically ice it, take IBUPROFEN if you think (Quit being stubborn). Does your left knee aggravate you more or your right? Your leg press is affecting your back also!! Your latest post you said you took it all the way down till your knees flared. That automatically puts tension on the low back by flexion. I would not go past 90 with the knees to protect your low back.
-Until you get X-rays and find out what is jacked with your back I would not recommend doing any sort of heavy lifting with the back. Do you want a disc to slip further? That is your call to make, but as a professional I would highly not recommend it.
- O.k. My 2 cents added, hope that helps!!!
P.S. You asked this in one post
“ wouldn't a pintched nerve be constant pain?
Same with a disc problem?...maybe?”
Pinched nerve you will feel tingling or a numbing sensation. Disc problem varies to what is going on, could be cracked uni or bi, could be slipped, etc..
 
Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

Everything from today till SEP 17th 06 about your back in your posts:

“Leg Sled: 2p x 12, 4p x 8, 6p x 8, 8p x 8
I came down to my chest with my knees and let my knees go out even, so a bit past my chest... yeah hard to breathe in that position so I didn't say down there too long. Last set was hard, close to failure... feeling weak, could be attributed to food and/or deep tissue last night.

SLDL off Box*: 135x12, 185x8, 185x8**

*Box was (if I had to guess ~6 inches). The bar hit my instep if I rolled the bar back.
**over shot the weight big time, lol... hard as hell, could barely walk after... hammy's toast, back a lil' pumped... tight, no pain, feels worked... feels great.”

“It's only a problem with lifts that I need to bend at the waist and put major pressure on my lower back because my spine is out of whack there still... for now. Until it's straight, i'm not stressing it. Once my chiro can finally get that in-line... i'll probably wait a few more weeks... then start doing light Good Morning's (GM's) and strengthen my spinal erectors without having them be unbalanced from my lower back and hip displacement from my muscle imbalances and tight hamms and glutes (stretching multiple times a day still).

I was doing fine with 150+lb GM's before... but I think strengthening my back when it was unknowingly "out of whack" made it worst with squatting deep 3x week (with that slight bend at the bottom and all the weight going to my lower back).

Eh, I don't have much pain at all from it anymore, it's getting better for sure ”

“Soreness in the region of lunges”

“Lunges: BWx5, +20x8, +40x8 ... omfg, I thought I pulled my groin here, I think it's my ham/glute "tie in" area... holy shit it's sore as hell already Lunges aren't fun, lol

LONG break and streching out my glute/hamms real good cuz they were hurting here.”

“Hotel beds official suck ass....”

“Went to the chiro... my back is tight as hell again. No more front squats, hopefully it won't take 2 weeks off from that to loosen up again... shit that sucks.
Another chiro appt wed...”

“Front Squats: BWx12, Barx12, BWx12 & streches, 65x10*, 95x10*, 115x10* (belt)

* sat in hole for a few seconds, really took my time with the sets
after my 95lb set I felt my back getting tight, took a long break before 115... then took a LONG break after 115 before I went on..

Decline Sit ups: BWx3 ... O....M...G is all i have to say... I really went too "all out" that first sit up session. On the negative, i actually fell back down on each rep cuz it was too painful, i couldn't hold the slow negative.”

“have no idea what's light or heavy for me, i'll ramp it up slow and once feels heavy but still reppable I'll keep it there i guess

If my lower is still bugging me (it's one of those "bad" mornings) there will be no squating... fawk, i was looking forward to it. I kind of expected some discomfort from finally having my lower adjusted after a month + of being out of whack..but dayum.

I may get my lazer like focus on and do some 1,000 rep extentions and leg curls, step ups for good measure”

“thanks maing Well worth it IMO if you train, work seated for 8+ hours... bound to be outa whack from something. Feels so good when I get cracked, i love it ”

“YES!!! My lower back is really starting to "let go" and loosen up finally.

My chiro got it to pop a tiny bit... but that's huge progress, since I was in excruciating pain when he'd try to do it before... a couple more weeks and I think i'll be in good shape

Continue doing my stretches and keep with the training I have outlined”

“ok. I said I can't go get xrays yet (until the Jan.) yeah, i'd like to be certain... but it's just not an option at this time.

Yeah, I'm happy with it right now for the most part...it's better than it was, so that's a good thing. Thanks... deff the rest and avoiding any lifts that have aggrevated it has been a positive ”

“quick clif notes: no x-ray... doc doesn't think it's disc issue... lower back still tight... chiropractor appoitnments 2-3x week for 4 weeks... hopefully resolve it. Got a few new streches i'm doing too... back feels great since i haven't aggrevated it in a while”

“Yeah, me too... I was VERY please about that... but kinda knew it'd be fine because my back is straight. It's when I bend I find problematic.

Thanks. No, i'm not toughing anything out bro... I'm avoiding anything that'll tweak my back until it gets fixed by the unlimited chiropractor appointments i have for 4 weeks or works itself out. He doesn't think it's a disk problem... that's fanfreakingtastic... but he wouldn't know for sure without an xray.”

“it's not bothering me from lifts (i'm not lifting)... musta slept funky last night, i need to see the chiro too. Still playing it by whim right now.

appreciate it man.”

“thanks guys... but, I'm working out with weights by this weekend while avoiding ANYTHING that may aggravate my back... no pushing through the pain.”

“the way this morning went... chillin' and just "working out" seems like it'll have to do. I think i have good mornings where my back is fine and bad mornings were my back feels fawked... today was a bad day ”

“Sumo deads, i should have done when my back was hurting last spring hind sight is a b1tch. Saftey squats... no such "machine" in my gym... 1 leg - leg press most likely.”

“my back still hurts.
chiro is all i can do until around january, the 1st of the year...
Will have to remap a new training regimine without most of the core lifts that I need (no squat, dead, bent over barbell row {supported t-bar replacement})
I remember reading somewhere that 1 legged leg sled pressing was much easier on the back... may have to look into that as my only "core" lower movement for now.
A new log will probably be upcoming as well...”

“Thanks bro! yeah...well, i can't lift because of my back anyway... just kinda worked out like this, lol.

Hopefully I won't be out of commision TOO long ”

“ wouldn't a pintched nerve be constant pain?
Same with a disc problem?...maybe?”


“ I get them when I can, BELIEVE ME! Deep tissue is the only way to go Last one was Sept. 30th ”

“I'm deffinetly taking my 2 days off here (this is my "weekend" after day 3) and gauge my back and see what i'm going to do if it's not loose yet, i'm not going to keep hammering away and risk injury...it's my back... I do NOT want to be fucked and out of commision for a long time.. looking into Health Insurance soon hopefully”

“putting my feet up like that would put me in excruitiating pain ”

“No, please no nasty streches, lol.

Tight doesn't even begin to explain how wound up it is, lol... my chiro hasn't been able to crack my L's for a few months because it's so damn tight.

still hurts this morning.”

“ATF Squat
bar for 8, 100x5, 140x5, 160x2, 195x5, 240x4 (belted..lower back fawked)... hurt like a bitch... layed down for a bit... back felt "100%" at the time then did 1 more rep. ... layed down again... exhausted now on top of it hurting to even bend down to get a drink at the water fountain.
thought i devised a little plan to attack my PR...”

“I probably will have eaten close to 7,000 cals today after my next meal... guess food doesn't replace CNS burnout and back fatigue/pain.
... going to ice my back and lay down.”

“Back is feelin' it from the Deads still”

“Eh, my back is fine usually... I blame the 3 shitty nights of sleep on a crappy hotel bed for the recent lower back issues righ tnow... it should be fine in a few days... Sometimes my back is bulletproof...but when my spine is out of align...,it must pull on the muscles differently to make it such a pain in the ass again.”

“After set 2 on deads my lower back was SHOT... i felt it starting to get angry during squats... and I had to belt up for top 3 sets of Deadlifts... gat dang... that last set was a screamer too... took way too much effort than I think it shoudl have taken....chalk, straps and all...”

“BTW: it's been exasterbated because of the shitty hotel bed I've slept in for 3 nights. Last night was the 1st night back in my glorious comfy bed ”

“I wish it was that easy bro... while i'm still functioning fine... it's not painful just feels funny... I can't go in preventativly.”

“My damn spine is bothering me big time... i can't get it in place by myself.”

“My spinal erectors.. surprizingly... feel brand NEW (after going heaviest I've tried with GoodMornings)... i love them, I think they're my favorite new addition to my arsenal of muscle groups that can take abuse now ”

“I don't need no stinkin' Advil lol ... just got back from Deep Tissue...ahhhhh i'm so relaxed right now... she spent most of the time on my traps and back ... knotted to all hell....”

“Neck today... zero pain... movement not limited ... 100% now, getting DEISEL headaches since the BTN incident... that tells me my stuff is out of wack, big time... oui, those kind of headaches in the back suck.”

“Horrible...shitty sleep. Neck is better... but not 100%... i'd say it's up to 75% ... when it was about a 5% when I hurt it.”

“Thanks man... yeah i'm tryin' my neck is killing me, i can't bend it in certain directions.”

“F^CK! After all the damn BTN talk today... I messed my cervical vertebra up... ugh ... been iceing on and off for a while,”

” Yah i hope so too... i'm streching those bastards in all directions multiple times a day to... i'm lengthing my streching sessions now. And if I'm feeling up to Deads (probably will, lol) I'll HAVE to ice down after and see how that does.

Pain of soreness after lifting... negative, unless i know i lifted with bad form. My erectors are conditioned now so they don't flare up at all... not even with strict GP rows after squats, AND hypers.

Pain or soreness is mostly in the morning upon waking... i think i'm going to have to try to sleep on my back still even with the new bed... Damnit.”

“I'd have to be in agony and not able to walk to get all that done... medical expenses for the year are all ready through the roof

I don't need pain meds... i'm not even taking Ibprophen/Advil..it's not THAT bad, just really..REALLY.. uncomfortable feeling at times.”

“I appreciate the concern... it's a shitty situation. I'm thinking about making icing it 20 on 20 off (2 times) and then see him ASAP (maybe even ice it there) maybe that'll work... or maybe heat to loosen it up?”

“he did yesterday... but my lower back is still locked up (L1-L5) and out of line... via my tight ass muscles being comfortable with the disalignment... and it's been out of whack for so long its' going to take a few tries for him to get it.. he got my neck and middle spine fine.

Doc just wants to give me pain meds and take x-rays (WAY more money than my chiro) ... high deductible insurance... so it's pretty much self pay. ”

“My lower back is fugging killing me today

ughhhhhhhhhhhhh I hate this! Damn spine. I need a replacement”

“DAMNIT... stopped into my chiro real quick... the L's are still being held tightly out of place by my muscles
Cracked the rest of my spine though... feels good, I love it.
And did a pelvis alignment "thingy" this time.... hadn't done it before on me... because my left leg was 1/4 inch longer than the other... now it's only a few milimeters off. And that's most likely the reason for my left knee being aggitated from squating with one leg noticably longer, lol.”

“Thanks! Well it's not my erectors that are benefiting from the bed directly... it's more my spine... my backbones... that got very out of whack before.

My erectors are finally conditioned and don't get so pumped and sore lifting on the spot, it's a beautiful thing really ”

“I need a damn massage... i'm stiff and can feel knots.

My left knee that hasn't been a problem in 7 weeks is now hurting today... not good. Streching morning, noon, and night... may have to make the sessions a little longer and maybe ice tonight too.

And still need to go get L1-L5 lined up ... cervical verts feel outa whack again though too”

“going to do extra squat warm ups ... my left flexor feels super tight.. oh, more streching too”

“Yup... back to my old ways... sleepin on my stomach..it doesn't hurt my back so I can ”

“My new bed kicks ass it's not even funny... didn't want to get out of bed, I think sleeping is my new favorite hobby, lol. And my back feels 75% better... once I get my lower back popped back in line and a full tune up this week i should be waking up with zero back pain for the first time in a LONG time ... i'm looking forward to it!”

“Went to my chiro. a bit ago. Got the full tune up ...neck down to lumbar.

Neck cracked next a few times... niiiiiiiice.
Upper back/Middle back range ... 3 cracks.... omg, feels so good.
Lower back (needs the most) ... OWWWIE ... fucker is too tight to crack, i gotta go back (i've waited way to long to go in to see him).

I was looking at my back in the mirror with a hand held mirror... WHOA... I have erectors that came outa No where!! It looks like a crator, deep divote with the muscle around my spine now... wow. 6 weeks of work, and it's built up like that?!?! Damn. I was shocked... and it makes since why the same old weight belt doesn't fit the same any more prolly a good couple inches of new muscle back there. ya, ya.... I'll take pics when I get tanned up... cuz it's impossible to see contrast when someone's pale as an old irishman.

Took my old mattress and old box spring off the frame... vaccume the nasties living beneath... I'm ready for a new bed ”

“90* Bent Over Row
95x5
115x5
135x5
160x5
185x3 (PR!)
135x8

*Spinal Erectors said nuttin' but a peep... now my spine on the other hand... a little tweaked so gave me some shit throughout the workout, but it was fine otherwise*”

“Exactly... friggin' bed gots a hole in the middle basically. One, large dip/hamocking (sp?) in the matress from my fat ass over the years, lol. and when I sleep face down my back get sucked into the hole when i wander over while i'm sleeping to get comfortable and i wake up like "ahhhh SHIT... " and feelin' like an old man ... That new non-spring matress (not supposed to "hammock"/dip like spring ones over time) better be here friday or ima hurt somebody.”

“STANDING Overhead DB Extention
40x8
50x8
55x5 ... tri's were toooooasted

*Wow my spine felt like it got compressed 3 inches ... maybe I'll do them seated next time, not sure if that'll help... but ever since 5x5 I like doing lifts without using benches, ect.. when i don't have to for my core.*”

“Blah... remember how I was supposed to go to the chiro... what? a week ago? lol

I keep popping my back "in line" as best i can cuz haven't had time to go see him...it's really funked up though... if I can make it over there today and get cracked i'll be a happy camper... i may take an extra day of rest otherwise and not try for PR weights with a crooked, hurting back....”

“I felt like I got ran over by a train... not some much sore... as achy ALL OVER...

Only isolated soreness is my traps... they're blown”

“P.S. My knees are bothering me tonight... more streching for them.
OH and I'm gettin' a new bed finally... hopefully that will help my damn back too.”

“Clean Pulls
190x3
225x3 (HOLY CRAP... lumbars toast... sat down... recooped for awhile... 5 minutes maybe.)”
 
Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

treilin said:
Hey Sarge :wavey:
I was asked to put some input in your log about your back... so I did some skimmin Well I went back 30 pages and found everything I could on your back... Let's say I have 6 pages in Microsoft Word full of different things connected to your back. I'll copy those in the next post to make your longest thread post ever... :lmao:

Chronic back pain, I saw one note that it’s been at least like this from last spring.

I see you don't have insurance, no x-rays till Jan., you are seeing a chiropractor for some time now, (Sept 17th is as far as I read back) now 2-3 times a week for 4 weeks.
The chiro can’t get your lower back to crack. You had a neck issue with GM’s but I read prior to that that you had a pre-existing neck issue.
Neck issues with GM's? I don't recall that... I did however miss catch a Push press behind the neck and banged it up real good, it's find now though.

During that time I see 1 visit to a massage therapist Sept 30th.

Left leg ¼ inch longer then the right, knee issues, lower back locked up L1-L5, list your left flexor in one post as super tight (which one?!?), your cervical vertebrae were put in alignment and only a few days later they were back out of alignment per your posts.

Sleep on hotel beds a lot despite. You enjoy sleeping on your stomach, on your new bed. :evil:

Back is sore in the a.m. some days, gets sore with deads, putting your feet up causes excruciating pain.

One post you said your erectors were conditioned so you don’t get flare ups.. I would negate that thought.

I see one post you don’t need no stinkin advil, honey you need something!!!
Why? Does taking it correct the problem? If Taking it helps in the long run I'll take Ibprophen more, but I just don't see the need really... it's not as bad as it used to be by far either.

You were looking at your back in one mirror thinking whoa where did those erectors come from?!? Yet in another post I do see that your BF was higher then what you wanted. Not trying to downplay all your hard work, but I think your erectors were so constricted that I could palpate them just by looking at them. Not necessarily a good thing to see your erectors in a mirror unless you are really low BF.
Uhh... laymen's terms please? lol what happens with constricted erectors? Palpate?
Maybe i'll take pics just to show you, my old back avatar (green) versus new one... it's much thicker, I did ZERO bent over free weight work and my erectors are built up now... i'll show you.


Standing Overhead DB extension felt like compressed your back 3 inches, Do not do those.
I did them once, not again :)

Summary:
-Sleep: You have to sleep on your back. Don’t use a pillow even roll up a towel just enough for neck support, and get comfy!
Crap. :( Ok, i'll get back to trying this.

-I see you love stretching, lol Well… get used to that also. One stretch I would like to see you add is a psoas release technique. Go to my muscle thread under the Psoas post and it talks about it in there. I incerted some of the stuff about psoas here for you:
Ok, i'll check that one out... if it's the leg bend under a straight leg behind it that comes to mind, i do that one... good stuff

Psoas:
Origin: Bodies of T12 –L4 vertebrae
Insertion: Lesser Trochanter of Femur
Action: Hip Flexion, External Rotation of Femur

-I think Psoas could be one of the many tight muscles you have. But I think it will be tighter on your left side since you have said left side is tighter. What did the chiro say about pelvic alignment? That muscle alone can torque your pelvis. Since your L1-L5 seems to be tight that muscle connects from the T12-L4…
What did he said about pelvic alignment? He didn't directly say "pelvic alighnment" but I think he said my hips were "off."

- The sensation of being centred and grounded comes from a healthy psoas in combination with a balanced weight-bearing pelvis. The keystone of skeletal alignment, it is the balanced pelvis that provides a base of support for the spine, ribcage, neck and head. It is the aligned pelvis that transfers weight down through the hip sockets, legs, knees and feet. If the bones do not support and transfer weight properly, it is the psoas muscle that is called upon to provide structural support.
- Chronic muscular tension, overdeveloped external muscles, and muscular substitutions can be linked to a tense or overworked psoas. Birth anomalies, falls, surgery, overexuberant stretching or weightlifting may create pelvic instability or affect the functioning of the psoas muscle.
- Increased risk of lower back injury during hip extension activities when knees are bent. After complete flexion of the hip, the lumbar spine will flex if movement is continued. The risk of injury is increased if the lumbar spine is not accustom to this movement or workload. Examples of affected exercises: Leg Press , Squat , Single Leg Squat . Example preventative / corrective exercise: Glute Stretch , Adductor Magnus Stretch.
- Back pain, exacerbated by heavy squatting, deadlifting, and lumbar flexion. Pain can limit lumbar spine flexion, reduced hip flexion, range of motion, a hypomobile or 'blocked' sacroiliac joint, possible rotated ilium, and increased muscle tone in TFL/psoas and gluteals.
-I think a chiro and a massage therapist work well together. I am amazed your chiro has not suggested for you to go to a massage therapist to help release the muscles then he can do the spine manipulations easier. I would not allow a chiro to crack my back if it was forced. There are definitely musculature imbalances in your back.
He did reccomend a massage therapist, I go when I can... the massages are about a 2:1 regarding cost, so I can't go all the time... I wish I could :(
Would you go to an auto body detail shop to get your oil changed in your car?!? They both may deal with a car in general but each one specializes in a certain area, it’s the same with massage. A massage therapist specializes in muscles and releasing techniques, a chiro practices getting your bones back into alignment.
I would spend my money on a massage therapist to help get the muscle imbalances back into proportion then visit the chiro.
Hmmm... so my muscle imbalances can be "fixed" with massages?? I didn't know that. I had pre paid for the month worth of chiropractic work I have a week or 2 left of that. Then it's back to paying per visit. Also, I have to sleep on crappy beds or even a floor next week :(
-As far as lifting any heavy weight bearing activity is only going to debilitate you more. I would focus more on lighter lifting mostly hypers unweighted higher reps followed by stretching. Add in unweighted supermans, opposite hand and knee extension on floor or on a ball, back twisting and breathing exercises, lat, psoas, glutes, hams, TFL, and quad stretches. The stretches every day. Pre-ice the back. If you know you did something to the back as far as lifting a box or etc.. I would automatically ice it, take IBUPROFEN if you think (Quit being stubborn). Does your left knee aggravate you more or your right? Your leg press is affecting your back also!! Your latest post you said you took it all the way down till your knees flared. That automatically puts tension on the low back by flexion. I would not go past 90 with the knees to protect your low back.
left knee issue is no longer, I've fixed my seating in my car and clutching knee is good now. Those did not aggrevate my back though :rolleyes: I'm getting SO MUCH information, I should do this, no do that... ect... wtf... i don't know wtf to do anymore. If it doesn't bother my back, you're saying I shouldn't do it?
-Until you get X-rays and find out what is jacked with your back I would not recommend doing any sort of heavy lifting with the back. Do you want a disc to slip further? That is your call to make, but as a professional I would highly not recommend it.
- O.k. My 2 cents added, hope that helps!!!
P.S. You asked this in one post
“ wouldn't a pintched nerve be constant pain?
Same with a disc problem?...maybe?”
Pinched nerve you will feel tingling or a numbing sensation. Disc problem varies to what is going on, could be cracked uni or bi, could be slipped, etc..
Yeah, i can't wait to get a view inside there to see what the hell is going on.

I don't get that pain at all anymore.

Thanks for doing this :) It's always good to get another perspective. Who put you up to this so I can thank them?

lol... yeah I'd say you've found most of the type ups of my back issues :lmao:
 
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The chiro can’t get your lower back to crack. You had a neck issue with GM’s but I read prior to that that you had a pre-existing neck issue.
Neck issues with GM's? I don't recall that... I did however miss catch a Push press behind the neck and banged it up real good, it's find now though.
I stand corrected that's what you wrote! but you had pre-existing neck issue before that... I'm thinking due to your sleeping on your stomach :evil:


Why? Does taking it correct the problem? If Taking it helps in the long run I'll take Ibprophen more, but I just don't see the need really... it's not as bad as it used to be by far either.

Ibuprofen helps decrease inflammation in the joint so you can move. I'm not a pill popper myself and I have to be in some pain to buckle down and take a pill.. but ice and ibuprofen together could be your best friend. I'm not a pharmacist nor do I diagnose I 'm just giving you some food for thought on that one.


Uhh... laymen's terms please? lol what happens with constricted erectors? Palpate?
Maybe i'll take pics just to show you, my old back avatar (green) versus new one... it's much thicker, I did ZERO bent over free weight work and my erectors are built up now... i'll show you.
Sorry... Constricted, contracted, overly tight... etc. Palpate means to feel the knots or tightness. Saying I can palpate your erectors with my eyes means I can see the over contractility of the erectors I don't even need to touch them. I'm not doubting that you have put back muscle on... All I'm saying is that seeing your erectors stand on end in your back is not necessarily the best thing when you are saying you have a lot of back pain.


Summary:
-Sleep: You have to sleep on your back. Don’t use a pillow even roll up a towel just enough for neck support, and get comfy!
Crap. Ok, i'll get back to trying this.

Forgot to add it would be better to prop your legs up on pillows to take the tension off the low back also.

What did he said about pelvic alignment? He didn't directly say "pelvic alighnment" but I think he said my hips were "off."
Same thing... So your pelvis is tilted in a certain direction to a certain degree. I was just wondering if you could recall if it was a lateral pelvic tilt which I bet it is.


Hmmm... so my muscle imbalances can be "fixed" with massages?? I didn't know that. I had pre paid for the month worth of chiropractic work I have a week or 2 left of that. Then it's back to paying per visit. Also, I have to sleep on crappy beds or even a floor next week.
Yes, muscle imbalances can be fixed by a massage therapist. Of course you have to do your part in corrective stretching, strengthening, and posture on your own to help retrain your body, and keep the distortions at bay.


-left knee issue is no longer, I've fixed my seating in my car and clutching knee is good now. Those did not aggrevate my back though I'm getting SO MUCH information, I should do this, no do that... ect... wtf... i don't know wtf to do anymore. If it doesn't bother my back, you're saying I shouldn't do it?
Shouldn't do what? All I'm saying is if it's a heavy load and you have yet to have x-rays done I would be very cautious as to what you are going to lift which may injure you worse. You only have one back. I know mine is jacked. Till you get x-rays and know what you are dealing with I would definitely not be pushing lots of weight with it. Your pelvis not being alligned correctly can also cause knee issues.


Thanks for doing this It's always good to get another perspective. Who put you up to this so I can thank them?
Check your karma... and your welcome.
 
Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

The chiro can’t get your lower back to crack. You had a neck issue with GM’s but I read prior to that that you had a pre-existing neck issue.
Neck issues with GM's? I don't recall that... I did however miss catch a Push press behind the neck and banged it up real good, it's find now though.
I stand corrected that's what you wrote! but you had pre-existing neck issue before that... I'm thinking due to your sleeping on your stomach :evil:
Hmm, pre existing before the neck bashing... I have frequent "kinks" for sure from working and having my head tilted down looking at my desk for hours. Chiro always gets a good crack out of my cervical verts. ... bah humbug, lol...this is going to be tough but i'll get back to the my attempt at learning to love sleeping on my back


Why? Does taking it correct the problem? If Taking it helps in the long run I'll take Ibprophen more, but I just don't see the need really... it's not as bad as it used to be by far either.

Ibuprofen helps decrease inflammation in the joint so you can move. I'm not a pill popper myself and I have to be in some pain to buckle down and take a pill.. but ice and ibuprofen together could be your best friend. I'm not a pharmacist nor do I diagnose I 'm just giving you some food for thought on that one.
Ok, I want second guess taking them if I feel it's bothersome then.


Uhh... laymen's terms please? lol what happens with constricted erectors? Palpate?
Maybe i'll take pics just to show you, my old back avatar (green) versus new one... it's much thicker, I did ZERO bent over free weight work and my erectors are built up now... i'll show you.
Sorry... Constricted, contracted, overly tight... etc. Palpate means to feel the knots or tightness. Saying I can palpate your erectors with my eyes means I can see the over contractility of the erectors I don't even need to touch them. I'm not doubting that you have put back muscle on... All I'm saying is that seeing your erectors stand on end in your back is not necessarily the best thing when you are saying you have a lot of back pain.
Ohhhhh, I gotcha.


Summary:
-Sleep: You have to sleep on your back. Don’t use a pillow even roll up a towel just enough for neck support, and get comfy!
Crap. Ok, i'll get back to trying this.

Forgot to add it would be better to prop your legs up on pillows to take the tension off the low back also.

ok, i'll do that... my massuse puts a pillow under my knee area when i'm on my back. Does it matter where the pillow goes? under knee or calves... or just get a pillow somwhere down there?

What did he said about pelvic alignment? He didn't directly say "pelvic alighnment" but I think he said my hips were "off."
Same thing... So your pelvis is tilted in a certain direction to a certain degree. I was just wondering if you could recall if it was a lateral pelvic tilt which I bet it is.
I'll try to remember to ask him Monday. When my feet are "off" (one leg longer) and he "adjusts" my hips the usually even out if that helps you.


Hmmm... so my muscle imbalances can be "fixed" with massages?? I didn't know that. I had pre paid for the month worth of chiropractic work I have a week or 2 left of that. Then it's back to paying per visit. Also, I have to sleep on crappy beds or even a floor next week.
Yes, muscle imbalances can be fixed by a massage therapist. Of course you have to do your part in corrective stretching, strengthening, and posture on your own to help retrain your body, and keep the distortions at bay.
Ok... i'll try to get in to see the massuse monthly at least.


-left knee issue is no longer, I've fixed my seating in my car and clutching knee is good now. Those did not aggrevate my back though I'm getting SO MUCH information, I should do this, no do that... ect... wtf... i don't know wtf to do anymore. If it doesn't bother my back, you're saying I shouldn't do it?
Shouldn't do what? All I'm saying is if it's a heavy load and you have yet to have x-rays done I would be very cautious as to what you are going to lift which may injure you worse. You only have one back. I know mine is jacked. Till you get x-rays and know what you are dealing with I would definitely not be pushing lots of weight with it. Your pelvis not being alligned correctly can also cause knee issues.
*sigh* yah, i understand. this sucks.


Thanks for doing this It's always good to get another perspective. Who put you up to this so I can thank them?
Check your karma... and your welcome.
Thank you again :)

Did you by chance see the t-nation article on "neanderthal no more" ? If so, what are your thoughts on that? (i'm sure i buthered the spelling, my firefox doesn't do it auto like at work sadly, i need to look into that, lol)


{just got back from the 2 hour gym muscle glycogen destruction workout. I'm not expecting rave reviews, lol. Typing it up now. I'm taking a few extra days off before starting up the next week anyway.}
 
Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

food today so far:
pre workout: Whey and juice

now PWO: Whey and water.

11.24.2006
Friday


Sugar, PureCEE, Sodium and other misc stuff guided superhuman pump workout... my forearms felt like they were 18" lol....

Zero Rest Until T-bar, then paced.. then Arm stuff I sped it up as much as I could but the pump was ridiculous.


12:30pm

Decline DB: 65's x 15, 75's x8, 80's x 6
CGBP: 95x10, 135x7
Cable Cross Over's: #30 x 8, #40 x8
T-bar Row: 45x15, 70x10, 90x10, 135x6
BTN Lat Pull Down: 100x12, 110x10, 120x11, 140x8
DB Shrugs: 80's for 20, 90's for 15, 105's for 12
BTN Push Press: 95x10, 115x8, 135x6*
*These felt really smooth with a pumped and tight back
French Press: 35x15, 55x8, 75x6
Alt'ing DB Hammer: 30's for 11, 35's for 8, 40's for 6
DB Front & Side Raises: 20's for 20, 25's for 20
supersetted:
Cable V Press Downs: 100x15, 110x12, 120x10, 150x8
Cable Curls: 100x15, 110x12, 120x10, 150x8

A few random dips
BW Hypers: x8, x8

10 minutes treadmill walk @ 3.6 speed

Streching gallore.

2:30pm

And now I have a kink in my mid-upper back that's bugging the crap outa me.

I don't enjoy the pump workouts as much as I used to at all.

Low reps are more enjoyable for me now.

OH, and Bodyweight Post liquid release this morning right outa bed was:
218.5lbs

wtf is right. all that food, ect... I'm real watery looking but not as bloated as I thought I'd be. I kept up with my Sesapure and GlucR last night... and AIFM helped without a doubt i'm sure... last time I ate like that without the supplements I was almost 230... and felt like ass, my BP was probably through the roof :rolleyes:

221.0 lbs @ the gym
 
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