Removing BA from "solution"

[Ulter]

Alcohols ARE POLAR SOLVENTS! you are dead WRONG. so don't go correcting someone if you dont know your shit. All alcohols carry a partial negative charge around the oxygen atom, and a partial postive charge on the other end. So I think its time you hit chem 101 again,lol.

Ethanol is semi-polar

 

[maldorf]

I think that methanol would have the highest polarity of all the alcohols.

 

[Tux]

Actually bro I aced chem 101, 102, inorganic, and organic, lol. Water is polar, gear is not. So it doesn't dissolve in water. Like dissolves like... gear dissolves in alcohol. Benzyl alcohol is fairly polar, but NOT compared to water, which is why it will dissolve the gear. Ethanol is mildly polar, so it will mix with water, but again nowhere near as strong as water. Why do you think water is such a great solvent? B/c it's strongly polar. Alcohol's, especially the ones we deal with, do not really come close. Technically speaking we could both be right, but overall, compared to water, alcohol isn't polar, which is why it works for us. If it were polar like water, then alcohol and oil wouldn't mix in the gear, they'd stay separate like oil and water. Just by simple observation you can tell that what I've stated is true bro. As far as it concerns us, at least, if you want to split hairs you can be right too, but if you try to carry out any chemical processes with your "highly polar" alcohols, lol, you're gonna fail miserably.

 

[maldorf]

Actually bro I aced chem 101, 102, inorganic, and organic, lol. Water is polar, gear is not. So it doesn't dissolve in water. Like dissolves like... gear dissolves in alcohol. Benzyl alcohol is fairly polar, but NOT compared to water, which is why it will dissolve the gear. Ethanol is mildly polar, so it will mix with water, but again nowhere near as strong as water. Why do you think water is such a great solvent? B/c it's strongly polar. Alcohol's, especially the ones we deal with, do not really come close. Technically speaking we could both be right, but overall, compared to water, alcohol isn't polar, which is why it works for us. If it were polar like water, then alcohol and oil wouldn't mix in the gear, they'd stay separate like oil and water. Just by simple observation you can tell that what I've stated is true bro. As far as it concerns us, at least, if you want to split hairs you can be right too, but if you try to carry out any chemical processes with your "highly polar" alcohols, lol, you're gonna fail miserably.

Humm.... earlier you said "Sorry Maldorf, just look it up. All alcohols are NON-polar bro."
Alcohols are polar and always will be, of course not all alcohols are of the same polarity. Those which are shorter chained are much more polar and have higher boiling points. The longer chained alcohols would work better in disolving aas, since they are less polar as you said, but they are still considered polar.

 

[Andy13]

The problem is that you've never done this so you don't what you're talking about. We've been cooking off excess solvent in gear for several years. It's not a new experiment. Many times the solvent will evaporate right in the vial without ANY heat or ventilation. This is witnessed by those who have AS that sits for a long time and suddenly they see the material fall right out of the solvent and appear as crystals or powder at the bottom of the vial.

The temperatures I wrote are F not C. It doesn't take much heat to accelerate the evaporation process.



Of course there is a list of test ester melting points. Several as a matter of fact.
HE didn't do anything to get too much solvent in the vial. The underground manufacturers don't work in a Clean Room so they make it up by adding more solvent. They also put more material in it than there should be to get high concentrations that people want. The only way to do that is to use a ridiculous amount of solvent.

I have never tried to reduce BA in the oven. From a theoretical standpoint, it seems unlikely, especially when just a needle is used to vent (I imagine doing it with an open top would be far more effective..

But anyway, like I said, I have never tried it, and am only guessing based on chemistry principles..

Since you have experience with this, I'm interested to knnow if you have ever measured a decreased volume. I think a 1mL difference would be measurable.. Certainly by a balance,.

Do you calculate about how much BA you need to lose, then heat it for a some amount of time or do you rely on the trusty eyeball'ing measurement.


I have an idea of what MAY be happening that would account for the reduced inflamation and soreness, it depends on whether or not a measurable decrease in volume is noted.

Andy

 

[Advisor_x]

no idea there

 

[c gheller]

Bros im no chemist but i do know Alcohol is non polar. This is why the alcohol and the oil will mix.

 

[c gheller]

Bros im no chemist but i do know Alcohol is non polar,this is why the alcohol and the oil will mix. I think we can all agree water is polar hence the reason oil and water do not mix.

 

[Andy13]

Bros im no chemist but i do know Alcohol is non polar,this is why the alcohol and the oil will mix. I think we can all agree water is polar hence the reason oil and water do not mix.

There are actual degreas of polarity, not just polar or non. Benzyl alcohol is by most means considered non polar, of course, relative to an AAS ester, BA IS somewhat polar, at least more so than the androgen.

Alcohols are largely misible in non polar solvents. Ethanol mixes with hexane, but methanol does not. This is assuming pure solvents. If the ethanol has a small amount of water, (4%) it's solubility properties change, and, for instance probably will not mix with higher alkanes.

class dismissed

 

[Andy13]

I have never tried to reduce BA in the oven. From a theoretical standpoint, it seems unlikely, especially when just a needle is used to vent (I imagine doing it with an open top would be far more effective..

But anyway, like I said, I have never tried it, and am only guessing based on chemistry principles..

Since you have experience with this, I'm interested to knnow if you have ever measured a decreased volume. I think a 1mL difference would be measurable.. Certainly by a balance,.

Do you calculate about how much BA you need to lose, then heat it for a some amount of time or do you rely on the trusty eyeball'ing measurement.


I have an idea of what MAY be happening that would account for the reduced inflamation and soreness, it depends on whether or not a measurable decrease in volume is noted.

Andy

takers?