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Focused mostly on cardio today, on the rowing machine. Trying to get up to doing longer sessions on it, just did a few short ones today. First one was done as fasted cardio when I woke up, 10mins, and that’s the one I want to get the time up on the most.

Diet was ok, I kept calories down a bit and ate things like low carb collagen jelly + pudding because struggling with gut problems so am eating lite things.

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Focused mostly on cardio today, on the rowing machine. Trying to get up to doing longer sessions on it, just did a few short ones today. First one was done as fasted cardio when I woke up, 10mins, and that’s the one I want to get the time up on the most.

Diet was ok, I kept calories down a bit and ate things like low carb collagen jelly + pudding because struggling with gut problems so am eating lite things.

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@Ori the cardio champ
 
I’m currently down in the city for a couple of days, brought a little bit of equipment with me and got a small workout in.

Diet a bit all over the place being away from home. All in all I’m still pretty much on track anyway. Was 87kg on the scales this morning, down from 91kgs in late November. I think I’m ok with this speed of weight loss, going faster I’ll probably just lose muscle as well.

Also with the weight loss, for sure some of it is the Stenabolic, is helping to make the whole process much easier for me. Cardio is way easier and especially fasted cardio. I can’t rate Shogun Stenabolic from UGL OZ highly enough, is amazing and will be something I use going forward.

I have two things I’d like to get happening on this cycle, one is running, and the other is I think I may want to try and get a third day of lifting in. I’ve tried that before and had a lot of issues so stopped, want to try again though pretty soon.

Tomorrow I’m going to be driving home most likely, and with all the stuff I need to do I think I’ll probably miss my workout, was also one of the reasons I trained today instead when I usually rest.

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great log going here
 
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I got a lot done today. Finally got the rest of the stuff for my blood glucose monitor yesterday and started using it this morning.

As expected, I woke up with high blood sugar.
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Also, note how completely fu*#ed my hematocrit is, that is caused by me losing too much blood each day 🤬😡🤬

Due to hematocrit being that low, I don’t think the high reading is even necessarily the MK677. Is possible that the high reading is 100% due to my low hematocrit from blood loss.

Also this low hematocrit is definitely contributing to me feeling low energy and crap all the time. Also dizzy etc, especially if I lift weights 🏋️‍♀️.

After the high reading I immediately did fasted cardio, 15mins on the rowing machine, reasonably high intensity at least for me anyway.
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Blood glucose after fasted cardio 😊
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So the fasted cardio made a large difference, and was only 15mins. Hematocrit still low though as would be expected.

Next I tried eating some food with carbs, then waiting two hours for another reading. I ate 1 cup mixed berries with 160g high protein yogurt, a teaspoon of honey on it, a coffee with a tablespoon of thickened cream and a teaspoon of honey in it. Total carbs 18g. Reading two hours later

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Stayed under pre-diabetes range. Hematocrit up a little since morning from iron supplements but still way too low. Next was another round on the rower for ten minutes as a warm up to lifting today. Then was straight into the weights for a couple hours.

Had some dinner after and am just sitting here posting this now.
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Down about 5kgs now since late November.
 
Sorry made a mistake with my food diary, correct calories and macros below
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I got a lot done today. Finally got the rest of the stuff for my blood glucose monitor yesterday and started using it this morning.

As expected, I woke up with high blood sugar.
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Also, note how completely fu*#ed my hematocrit is, that is caused by me losing too much blood each day 🤬😡🤬

Due to hematocrit being that low, I don’t think the high reading is even necessarily the MK677. Is possible that the high reading is 100% due to my low hematocrit from blood loss.

Also this low hematocrit is definitely contributing to me feeling low energy and crap all the time. Also dizzy etc, especially if I lift weights 🏋️‍♀️.

After the high reading I immediately did fasted cardio, 15mins on the rowing machine, reasonably high intensity at least for me anyway.
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Blood glucose after fasted cardio 😊
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So the fasted cardio made a large difference, and was only 15mins. Hematocrit still low though as would be expected.

Next I tried eating some food with carbs, then waiting two hours for another reading. I ate 1 cup mixed berries with 160g high protein yogurt, a teaspoon of honey on it, a coffee with a tablespoon of thickened cream and a teaspoon of honey in it. Total carbs 18g. Reading two hours later

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Stayed under pre-diabetes range. Hematocrit up a little since morning from iron supplements but still way too low. Next was another round on the rower for ten minutes as a warm up to lifting today. Then was straight into the weights for a couple hours.

Had some dinner after and am just sitting here posting this now.
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Down about 5kgs now since late November.
@Ori down 5kgs thats perfect! stay strong
 
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plus all those processed foods and refined flowers are killing you
 
what do you plan on changing after seeing these numbers?
I’ve added two supplements, Berberine and Cinnamon oil, to help manage blood sugar.

Going to reduce carbs further. To do that while still eating enough protein I need to try an experiment with pasteurised egg whites and whey protein isolate, also another one with hydrolysed collagen peptides, gelatine and bcaas. If those two recipes work then I’ll eat those one day, and the next day I’ll try and eat 1kg beef mince, 500g chicken mince and five eggs, divided into 5 meals, maybe even six smaller ones throughout the day. Then just alternate between a meat day and a day where I eat egg white/whey isolate pudding and zero carb collagen jelly.

Also going to increase iron supplementation to try and increase my hematocrit which hopefully will help bring the blood sugar readings down a little bit, low hematocrit causes abnormally high blood sugar readings.
 
lets get the diet locked in for the back stretch here bro. This will be crucial to getting good results the rest the way
I’m hoping to try a food experiment today as soon as supermarkets open, hopefully it works and I’ll have this fixed in a day or two.

I got some ideas from trying those low carb NoWay collagen puddings and jelly earlier in the week. Going to make diy versions of those to replace liquid meals. Is really hard to do liquid nutrients how I was doing and also make it very low carb, I haven’t been able to work out how to do it. I got the carbs way down but don’t know how to get it under say 20-50g or basically zero doing the liquid thing, I think I have a temporary solution though.
 
Got up a bit earlier today as I plan on a small trip tomorrow morning where I’ll need to get up at 3am, is easier for me if I get up at that time one day earlier as well, then isn’t as bad on the day I really have to do it.

Have done some more research on how low hematocrit causes abnormally high blood glucose readings.

My hematocrit isn’t just low is falling through the damn floor, I have anaemia again from daily blood loss 🤬. With hematocrit as low as mine, there will be an error rate of 12% minimum.
With that new information I re-calculated my highest consistent reading which is my fasted morning test. It tests at 5.6 but hematocrit is as low as 12-16%.

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So, I don’t even have drug induced diabetes, which is exactly what I expected as soon as I learned that hematocrit being low causes abnormally high readings. It just took my until this morning to have enough time to find a study that demonstrated an error rate I could use. Was this one.

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I will continue to monitor my blood sugar while on MK677, especially since is so early in the cycle. Also having reduced hematocrit, does in fact impair glucose tolerance, I can’t fix it without surgery so lowering carbs is still going to be a good idea despite this new information. Is good to know I could continue to drink those smoothies I rely on most likely if I need to on cycle though.

This also means that I didn’t in fact have drug induced diabetes from the CJC1295/GHRP6 as I previously thought, when corrected for margin of error that one comes out at 5.3, high because was even more anaemic then but still under pre-diabetes.

Moral of the story is low hematocrit will make you look like a diabetic or pre-diabetic when you really aren’t, add a growth hormone secretagogue in the mix without knowing this and it looks bad when it isn’t.
 
Thanks guys. Is a lot of work to manage all the health problems I have but at the end of the day they only slow me down, they don’t actually stop me completely yet.

I’m kind of in a scenario where I’ve tried a PED cycle very similar to the one I’m on twice now, but I never had everything dialled in properly to get the maximum possible benefits from it. Some of my health issues, particularly the anaemia made it so hard to sort out I don’t think I had a hope of getting here without that blood glucose monitor that shows the hematocrit value.

The medical system down here is corrupt third world rubbish. I’ve been stuck with this blood loss problem for YEARS. Was obvious from the first time it caused me to need an iron infusion and phosphate that I NEED surgery. But I was denied it until recently. Same with the surgery to shorten my bowel. I was supposed to get that like TEN YEARS ago now, as an emergency surgery no less.

Anyway, I’m not even being monitored, am just expected to manage it somehow without even the slightest bit of advice, like “hey you are going to have severely reduced carb tolerance from the blood loss” would be easy to give but isn’t what happens. Not even “hey make an appointment by such and such a date to get a blood test and see if you need another infusion by then”, nope, I am expected to wait until I’m basically needing the emergency department at a hospital just to be given a blood test that always shows I’m f*#cked and needed the infusion weeks before I’ve been given the test, usually by then I can barely breathe or drive my car to the clinic.

And this is just the blood loss, not even the biggest problem I have health wise, not by far.

And I train like this, every week at least a bit. Not even enough oxygen in my blood, can’t breathe properly from it (really low blood iron causes dyspnea), go too hard and get an autoimmune flare to top it all off, but I don’t stop.
 
I spent the whole day catching up with basic stuff like shopping, making new recipes for this cycle and researching early this morning about my blood sugar.

I need to try and get to bed within the next hour to get up at 3am tomorrow. Haven’t trained today at all. Day just got away from me with all the chores that needed catching up on.

Have made three new recipes that should help lower my carbs for a while. I tried to make a protein mousse but I didn’t realise pasteurised egg whites don’t stiffen when you beat them, so I altered the recipe to make it into a pudding using gelatine. One serve has about 50g protein, 1g fat and 3g carbs. I also made a jelly out of collagen and BCAAs, one serving has about 19g protein, no fat and half a gram of carbs so basically none. Lastly I made a mix of chicken mince, beef mince and egg, one serve has about 40g protein, 32g fats and 2.3G carbs.

Those should help a bit and will be good for cutting. Mostly cost will be the issue sustaining it. With my trip on Sunday tomorrow, next training day is likely Monday. I’m still sore from Thursday 🙃.

Step counter isn’t accurate is just what my phone recorded carrying it, I almost never walk around with it.
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I spent the whole day catching up with basic stuff like shopping, making new recipes for this cycle and researching early this morning about my blood sugar.

I need to try and get to bed within the next hour to get up at 3am tomorrow. Haven’t trained today at all. Day just got away from me with all the chores that needed catching up on.

Have made three new recipes that should help lower my carbs for a while. I tried to make a protein mousse but I didn’t realise pasteurised egg whites don’t stiffen when you beat them, so I altered the recipe to make it into a pudding using gelatine. One serve has about 50g protein, 1g fat and 3g carbs. I also made a jelly out of collagen and BCAAs, one serving has about 19g protein, no fat and half a gram of carbs so basically none. Lastly I made a mix of chicken mince, beef mince and egg, one serve has about 40g protein, 32g fats and 2.3G carbs.

Those should help a bit and will be good for cutting. Mostly cost will be the issue sustaining it. With my trip on Sunday tomorrow, next training day is likely Monday. I’m still sore from Thursday 🙃.

Step counter isn’t accurate is just what my phone recorded carrying it, I almost never walk around with it.
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@Ori another good day for you I'm proud to read your efforts, going to prep some meals too tomorrow
 
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nice update on this one Ori, you are a interesting guy
 
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Just putting in a quick update so no one gets worried if I don’t post for some days.

Long story short. I called a phone service and got assessed by a nurse, turns out my hematocrit/blood loss thing is an emergency now. Was hard to stop her from sending an ambulance to get me.

Someone is on their way to pick up my assistance dog and I, and go to the hospital 🏥 that gave me the emergency appendectomy. I don’t really know what’s going to happen when I get there, maybe I’ll get the surgery to stop the blood loss faster who knows. May need either an iron infusion or a blood transfusion.

If I don’t post for a few days please don’t get worried, I’ll be back and will update when I can 👍.
 
Just putting in a quick update so no one gets worried if I don’t post for some days.

Long story short. I called a phone service and got assessed by a nurse, turns out my hematocrit/blood loss thing is an emergency now. Was hard to stop her from sending an ambulance to get me.

Someone is on their way to pick up my assistance dog and I, and go to the hospital 🏥 that gave me the emergency appendectomy. I don’t really know what’s going to happen when I get there, maybe I’ll get the surgery to stop the blood loss faster who knows. May need either an iron infusion or a blood transfusion.

If I don’t post for a few days please don’t get worried, I’ll be back and will update when I can 👍.
@Ori we hope you are alright and get better soon
 
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I spent the whole day catching up with basic stuff like shopping, making new recipes for this cycle and researching early this morning about my blood sugar.

I need to try and get to bed within the next hour to get up at 3am tomorrow. Haven’t trained today at all. Day just got away from me with all the chores that needed catching up on.

Have made three new recipes that should help lower my carbs for a while. I tried to make a protein mousse but I didn’t realise pasteurised egg whites don’t stiffen when you beat them, so I altered the recipe to make it into a pudding using gelatine. One serve has about 50g protein, 1g fat and 3g carbs. I also made a jelly out of collagen and BCAAs, one serving has about 19g protein, no fat and half a gram of carbs so basically none. Lastly I made a mix of chicken mince, beef mince and egg, one serve has about 40g protein, 32g fats and 2.3G carbs.

Those should help a bit and will be good for cutting. Mostly cost will be the issue sustaining it. With my trip on Sunday tomorrow, next training day is likely Monday. I’m still sore from Thursday 🙃.

Step counter isn’t accurate is just what my phone recorded carrying it, I almost never walk around with it.
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Thanks for all the support guys 👍, I’m doing ok.

Quick update.

Got out of hospital a couple of hours ago. My iron was way too low, so they gave me an iron infusion. I was already on a waiting list to get a scope but now I’ve been bumped up near the top. I should be getting a call this week to schedule one, is to find the source of the blood loss.

Need a day or two to rest and then I’ll get back into my program. Hopefully soon I’ll get this blood loss thing sorted, is getting very hard to train with severe anemia all the time.

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I got a lot done today. Finally got the rest of the stuff for my blood glucose monitor yesterday and started using it this morning.

As expected, I woke up with high blood sugar.
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Also, note how completely fu*#ed my hematocrit is, that is caused by me losing too much blood each day 🤬😡🤬

Due to hematocrit being that low, I don’t think the high reading is even necessarily the MK677. Is possible that the high reading is 100% due to my low hematocrit from blood loss.

Also this low hematocrit is definitely contributing to me feeling low energy and crap all the time. Also dizzy etc, especially if I lift weights 🏋️‍♀️.

After the high reading I immediately did fasted cardio, 15mins on the rowing machine, reasonably high intensity at least for me anyway.
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So the fasted cardio made a large difference, and was only 15mins. Hematocrit still low though as would be expected.

Next I tried eating some food with carbs, then waiting two hours for another reading. I ate 1 cup mixed berries with 160g high protein yogurt, a teaspoon of honey on it, a coffee with a tablespoon of thickened cream and a teaspoon of honey in it. Total carbs 18g. Reading two hours later

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Stayed under pre-diabetes range. Hematocrit up a little since morning from iron supplements but still way too low. Next was another round on the rower for ten minutes as a warm up to lifting today. Then was straight into the weights for a couple hours.

Had some dinner after and am just sitting here posting this now.
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Down about 5kgs now since late November.
Ok so interesting update. I just had an appointment with my GP (doctor, is like saying MD in the USA I think). I learned that I was actually in range for getting a blood transfusion, but hospitals down here rarely do that anymore for a bunch of reasons, you just get iron infusions now.

Haemoglobin under 111 qualifies you for a blood transfusion, mine was 93, and I think in the past, it has been even lower than that.

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The post I’ve self replied to, has a workout in it etc, I was doing that while I needed a blood transfusion. Explains why I’m so weak compared to what was normal for me. Basically my whole log here is me doing stuff while needing a blood transfusion, that’s how much blood I’m constantly losing.

I have probably about a week or so where I can get some training in and I’m going to start with that tomorrow.
 
Ok so interesting update. I just had an appointment with my GP (doctor, is like saying MD in the USA I think). I learned that I was actually in range for getting a blood transfusion, but hospitals down here rarely do that anymore for a bunch of reasons, you just get iron infusions now.

Haemoglobin under 111 qualifies you for a blood transfusion, mine was 93, and I think in the past, it has been even lower than that.

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The post I’ve self replied to, has a workout in it etc, I was doing that while I needed a blood transfusion. Explains why I’m so weak compared to what was normal for me. Basically my whole log here is me doing stuff while needing a blood transfusion, that’s how much blood I’m constantly losing.

I have probably about a week or so where I can get some training in and I’m going to start with that tomorrow.
@Ori sounds serious maybe keep a life diet log and be careful with the training
 
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I'm glad you are at least putting the puzzle together
 
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so sorry for these health issues
keep us updated and let us know what the doctors tell you
hopefully they can lead you in the right path
 
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Ori you are the man for going through all this and keeping us updated
the blood issue really sucks it sounds like for most people it would be like sucking out all your energy from your body
 
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something like this happened to my cousin after he got in a motorcycle accident and lost a lot of blood
so I understand what you're going through it sucks
 
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@Ori sounds serious maybe keep a life diet log and be careful with the training
I do need to back off the total volume and intensity with training for sure. Had a chat to my doctor yesterday about that, basically if I go slow and pace myself, stop if it starts feeling really wrong, I should be ok 👍

In the next month or so, I’ll probably buy a walking pad, and that will help me to exchange some of my harder training for very light cardio.
 
this is why donating blood is crucial to help people like Ori live a better life
For sure bro, even though hospitals here don’t give them often I’m pretty sure would still be used for surgery if things go wrong, and I do have multiple surgeries in the near future according to my gastro specialist.

Would be curious to learn how hospitals in the USA manage blood loss, if they have started using iron infusions in place of them like down here.
 
Today I managed to get some training done. I also had a chat quickly again with my doctor, as I saw my hematocrit is still at around 18% since the infusion.

Apparently it takes weeks for it to take full effect especially when you get levels as low as I have. So as you can imagine I’m still feeling very weak in the gym. All I want to do is train though.

I needed to drop some sets from my program to make it through in the condition I’m in. Also the Barbell Row was replaced with Kettlebell supported rows is just the app needs me to input that exercise name and haven’t done it yet. Thank you Super Tired Wants Food for suggesting the supported rows, those worked way better for me, got the first proper back pump I’ve ever felt doing them 👍

I’m also in the middle of trying some awesome new products and will be starting a new thread soon to review them 💪

One last thing, given how hard this anaemia thing is becoming to deal with, and how much of a negative effect it’s having on my health goals, I’m about to just take unilateral action to manage it. I’ll need a month or so and if it works I’ll likely start a new recovery log based entirely around this therapy I’m going to try.

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Today I managed to get some training done. I also had a chat quickly again with my doctor, as I saw my hematocrit is still at around 18% since the infusion.

Apparently it takes weeks for it to take full effect especially when you get levels as low as I have. So as you can imagine I’m still feeling very weak in the gym. All I want to do is train though.

I needed to drop some sets from my program to make it through in the condition I’m in. Also the Barbell Row was replaced with Kettlebell supported rows is just the app needs me to input that exercise name and haven’t done it yet. Thank you Super Tired Wants Food for suggesting the supported rows, those worked way better for me, got the first proper back pump I’ve ever felt doing them 👍

I’m also in the middle of trying some awesome new products and will be starting a new thread soon to review them 💪

One last thing, given how hard this anaemia thing is becoming to deal with, and how much of a negative effect it’s having on my health goals, I’m about to just take unilateral action to manage it. I’ll need a month or so and if it works I’ll likely start a new recovery log based entirely around this therapy I’m going to try.

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@Ori the king of hardcore no matter what you will win
 
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I might have missed it but is the diet that way cos of the issue?

Cos I'd be smashing liver, organ meat and green veggies if I had any blood issues for the Iron etc
 
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rows are a great way to help balance your back you can even go kayaking or rowing out on the water
I miss kayaking, I used to go kayak fishing when I lived in Sydney. I have an inflatable stand up paddle board but haven’t used it yet, been meaning to get out on it when the weather gets better but summer is quite rainy this year so far. I think my dog would like the adventure of being on the stand up paddle board.
 
I might have missed it but is the diet that way cos of the issue?

Cos I'd be smashing liver, organ meat and green veggies if I had any blood issues for the Iron etc
Yeah at the moment I’m struggling to manage the pseudo obstruction in addition to everything else, like the anemia. Yesterday was rough, really hard to get food in.

I have taken liver in the past, I may try and go buy some from the butcher a few towns over is definitely something I need. Green veggies I can’t tolerate really due to fibre, but I could start doing juices again that sort of works.

I have an iron supplement called Bioheme, as I don’t tolerate those well either and it is easy for me to tolerate, but isn’t a very strong iron supplement, just easy to absorb.

When you need a blood transfusion or an iron infusion, diet can’t get you back from there while the problem causing it is still present, levels are just too low, but I still need to get as much dietary iron as I can. Even if you get iron infused intravenously it takes weeks and weeks for blood levels to balance out.

I do have a plan, just started this morning. I’m going to take Testosterone Cypionate and Equipoise. I started the Test C and will get the EQ by the end of the month, am going to get blood work as I go and stop the EQ when my blood levels look better, just staying on the Test C forever.

The way I actually arrived at these forums, was I read a research paper on the use of anabolic steroids for the treatment of IBD, I was in the middle of learning how to just do that therapy myself when I found Evo. I even started buying stuff to do it which is why I had Test C laying around. Because I’ve basically exhausted what I can access down here, treatment wise, I’m just going to do whatever I can to manage it better.

Even if the blood loss stops from surgery, I’ll still have all the autoimmune stuff, and the anabolic steroids are a better class of drug to be on for life than the corticosteroids that I can’t tolerate anymore the side effects are too much for me to handle.
 
Today I managed to get some training done. I also had a chat quickly again with my doctor, as I saw my hematocrit is still at around 18% since the infusion.

Apparently it takes weeks for it to take full effect especially when you get levels as low as I have. So as you can imagine I’m still feeling very weak in the gym. All I want to do is train though.

I needed to drop some sets from my program to make it through in the condition I’m in. Also the Barbell Row was replaced with Kettlebell supported rows is just the app needs me to input that exercise name and haven’t done it yet. Thank you Super Tired Wants Food for suggesting the supported rows, those worked way better for me, got the first proper back pump I’ve ever felt doing them 👍

I’m also in the middle of trying some awesome new products and will be starting a new thread soon to review them 💪

One last thing, given how hard this anaemia thing is becoming to deal with, and how much of a negative effect it’s having on my health goals, I’m about to just take unilateral action to manage it. I’ll need a month or so and if it works I’ll likely start a new recovery log based entirely around this therapy I’m going to try.

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I may need to incorporate kettlebells in to change things up a bit
 
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very nice getting in those workouts even with low energy
 
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monstro is looking forward to when you are a hundred percent healthy
Me too bro 💪, I think it can happen, there are things I haven’t even tried yet. One of them I just started this morning.

I’m starting TRT, should help a bit with making more red blood cells, if I tolerate it well I’m going to take EQ for a short time also. I’ll just stay on the TRT though even when I stop the EQ. Is worth me staying on TRT for a range of reasons, may also help keep me off prednisolone for example.

Once my anaemia is gone, I should be able to train a lot easier and make gains faster.
 
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