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Question for the homophobes...

Sushi X said:
well for one i don't think they should be in the pulpit. i know many will start on the preacher thing but a gay preacher is nothing more than a hypocrit and an abomination. since the bible speaks against it(homosexuality) gay preachers are a mockery. that's my stance, but like i said that is one exception. just like i am against women preachers. but that is another thread all together. now here it comes, the religious bashing, the name calling and the labeling. it's ok though, i tried to be civil and honest so i guess i deserve the bashing i'm about to get. **sighs**

All preachers are sinners in the sense that all men are sinners. What makes a gay preacher any more of a sinner than any other man?
 
yes all men are sinners, but homosexuality is an abomination in the eyes of God. he loves them, he also loves murderors and rapists. he hates what they do not them, just to clarify that. you cannot have a homosexual preacher since homosexuality is an abomination, what kind of example would that be setting. the bible teaches against it, yet the preacher is gay. that's a slander and a mockery of God's word. so now, i reinerate, let's get the bashing and flamming going, you know you all want too.
 
Sushi X said:
yes all men are sinners, but homosexuality is an abomination in the eyes of God. he loves them, he also loves murderors and rapists. he hates what they do not them, just to clarify that. you cannot have a homosexual preacher since homosexuality is an abomination, what kind of example would that be setting. the bible teaches against it, yet the preacher is gay. that's a slander and a mockery of God's word. so now, i reinerate, let's get the bashing and flamming going, you know you all want too.

So being gay is on par with murder and rape? What's the difference between sin and abomination? Is abomination worse?
 
no, i was merely stating that to make the point get through even more. i woul'nd want a rapist or a murderor in the pulpit. that too would be a slander and a mockery. you see what i am saying. we are all sinners, but christians strive not to live in sin, we strive to live according to what the new testament tells us and yes we slip up here and there but we can always repent as we should and ask for forgiveness, with a sincere heart not just to do it. since homosexuality is considered a sin, one lives that way one is living in sin, thus one should not be a preacher. i can't change what you think i am trying to say, you're preception is what it is and there aint nothin i can say or do to change that. i know what i believe and that is that. i never meant for this to be offending just to point out my views.
 
You mistake my questions for offense. You talk as if the expectation of a fight is the very thing that might cause one. I'm not arguing your views, yet, just clarifying them.

However, selective bible-quoting to support one's homophobia is not uncommon. If you use Leviticus to rationalize your disgust for homosexuality, then you must be consistent. You must also condemn women for cutting their hair, for men to have sex with mentruating women, and so forth.

If you have a problem with gays, that's fine. But for non-practicing "Christians" to quote the bible to back up their prejudices is hypocritical IMO.
 
Sushi X said:
i disaprove of the homosexuality, but not the person. i mean, if a person is gay i that does'nt mean i have to hate them. speaking from a religious view, hate the sin not the sinner. but i think homos should have the same basic rights to live life like the rest of us with a few minor exceptions. so aside from that if they want to screw each other and then go work and pay taxes that's fine. just don't tell me i have to except it(homosexuality) or flaunt it in my face with those gay pride parades. that's all i ask. be decent about it please. i know some give all a bad rep same as heteros too. some are nasty pervs while others are decent folks.

does this make me a homophobe, i think not.

I disapprove of heterosexuality -- especially when you're fucking for pure recreation instead of to make babies, the way the LAW OF NATURE requires. But I don't judge the person. I'm fine with it, just quit rubbing my face in your nonprocreational het sex in movies, on stage, in beauty pageants, at the damn Rose Bowl Parade, in clubs. Why do you have to flaunt it??? I mean, if gays can stop flaunting their sexuality, shouldn't breeders be able to, as well? Sex is a divinely ordained human experience meant only to celebrate love between husband and wife by creating new lives. Anything else is your own decision. JUST DON'T RUB OUR FACES IN IT.
 
musclebrains said:


I disapprove of heterosexuality -- especially when you're fucking for pure recreation instead of to make babies, the way the LAW OF NATURE requires. But I don't judge the person. I'm fine with it, just quit rubbing my face in your nonprocreational het sex in movies, on stage, in beauty pageants, at the damn Rose Bowl Parade, in clubs. Why do you have to flaunt it??? I mean, if gays can stop flaunting their sexuality, shouldn't breeders be able to, as well? Sex is a divinely ordained human experience meant only to celebrate love between husband and wife by creating new lives. Anything else is your own decision. JUST DON'T RUB OUR FACES IN IT.

excellent exposure of the hypocrisy.
 


I disapprove of heterosexuality -- especially when you're fucking for pure recreation instead of to make babies, the way the LAW OF NATURE requires. But I don't judge the person. I'm fine with it, just quit rubbing my face in your nonprocreational het sex in movies, on stage, in beauty pageants, at the damn Rose Bowl Parade, in clubs. Why do you have to flaunt it??? I mean, if gays can stop flaunting their sexuality, shouldn't breeders be able to, as well? Sex is a divinely ordained human experience meant only to celebrate love between husband and wife by creating new lives. Anything else is your own decision. JUST DON'T RUB OUR FACES IN IT. (musclebrains, 2001)

this is good. I am going to use this in an argument soon. don't worry, though, I will be sure to use proper citation as above.
 
i'm a "practicing" christian. you tend to forget that i am a new testament chrsitian. things have changed as far as the cutting hair and such goes. i don't have a problem with gays in general, i just have a problem with them being preachers or priests. that's all.

musclebrains and stronghchick, hypocrosy. i think not. i said there are pervs on both sides of the fence. when i said flaunt i was speaking in terms of gay pride parades. when you see people walking down the street butt pirating each other and making rude gestures with there genetillia that is sick. same goes for heterosexuals too. you want to sleep with whoever, do it in private, not in public. SC, you should'nt speak of hypocrisy, you accuse people on this board of doing things you feel is wrong yet you do them yourself, labling is one i can think of right off hand.
 
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