Oral AAS before a workout.

[BigAndy69]

Hmm, so what your saying is T3 does not (or will not) strip muscle? If thats the case what about the couple dozen people I have talked to who once they hit 150-200mcg dialy they get lethargic, lose strenght and size?

Must have missed this one.

I said that T3 is not as bad as people imagine...you've got guys asking if 1gram of test is enough to stop muscle burning.

At one point increasing doses of T3 result in more side effects and maybe some added benefit but not much. You don't need to go over 75-100mcg of T3. If you do, you are fuckin' yourself up in a big way.

The bottom line is T3 is a potent calories burner that doesn't discrimanate between protein, carbs and Fat. You don't need 150-200mcg. When you're using these amounts you need to counter loss in LBM with Massive amounts of AS. There's a limit to how much fat the body can burn in a week; when you're taking 200mcg, the rest of the weight loss is muscle. It doesn't take a genius to figure it out.

 

[Next Arnold]

Great post, this will help out all those fags who preach about taking orals before workouts to improve their performance!!
karma!

 

[OMEGA]

Re: Re: Re: Oral AAS before a workout.

I don't doubt that the dbol helped you along.. But, how do you know it benefited you more to take it before a workout? Dbol has a short half life but there IS a residual buildup from it.. especially if you take 50mg before a workout.. It will take a few days to build, but 24hrs after your last dbol dose, there IS STILL a reasonable amount of dbol in your blood.

Andy

well the first cyle I did was primo only at 300 mgs a week

and it took forever to gain 12 pounds of it......and it was not too fun

then my second was 10-15 mgs of dbol before workouts and only 100 mgs of Primo every 4 days....thats right LESS primo was taken!............ and it as wayyyyyyyyy better

 

[Hulk101]

This post is an instant classic. Almost like reading a book.

 

[Hugh Gellatts]

aaaaak...my brain has been downsized to handle triedia BS...cannot comprehend this post...okay, I'll try to explain my post and non-scientific backed reasoning:


I'm not a real big fan of d-bol, since it seems to be the only steroid that gives me hair loss. when i did use it though, i took roughly 50% of the daily dose pre and post-workout. this was because at the time i was using insulin post-workout and wanted to take advantage of a boost in IGF1 in that window. i dunno, aren't they highly synergistic. regardless, i tend to take in a very disproportunate amount of my daily calories post workout, and want to have d-bol levels highest during that period to increase protein synthesis.


i do think that the pre-workout short term dopamine boost is signifigant. when i have used welbutrin (another dopaminergin) i get a simular rush and rise in blood pressure, often followed an hour after taking with a nose-bleed (dopaminergins will raise blood pressure). i get the exact same thing after any large dose of d-bol.

As for t-3 and muscle loss, alot of that is dependent on diet. i dunno if you compensated for the increased calories burnt by the T-3 by eating more? Even if it doesn't directly burn muscle, if it is making you feel flat and less energetic you won't be able to train as hard, which will cut into muscle gain (at least that is what frustrates me when i am on t-3).

 

[macrophage69alpha]

Well, you will get same pumps if you use dbol 24/7, not only before workout.
I know my body too..

welcome to the world of estrogenic metabolites.. the fun metabolites of dbol that just loves to hang around for a lot longer that poor little dbol itself.. which btw- has a half life under 2hrs

 

[macrophage69alpha]

btw- that half life is directed toward andy..

 

[macrophage69alpha]

 

[Andy13]

btw- that half life is directed toward andy..

Can you show this?

 

[nautica]

i think a lot of reason people take things before the gym is for the psychological boost, people figure it will make them stronger so, there stronger.the mind is more powerful than people think.

Agreed.