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On the EDGE! GRRRRRRRrrrrr!

L

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Since I’m on DHEA I loose patience at the supermarket, I have that attitude in the gym – don’t mess with me or I’ll kick your ass-, I drive my car like racing car. These three words are really describing me : ON THE EDGE. Does it ever happened to you or am I going crazy?? Usually I’m not very patiente but I feel like I’m gonna bite someone!!!! Please, tell me I’m not crazy!!!!!!!!
 
You're probably going crazy because I really, really doubt the DHEA is causing your problems. Could be that it is spiked with some ephedrine or other stimulant. Are you training a lot harder since you started the DHEA? could be overtraining. Perhaps try a different brand of DHEA. Or, maybe I should ask why you're wasting your money on DHEA in the first place, unless you know you need to supplement because you had your DHEA blood levels checked.


W6
 
I did my homework

I DON'T THINK I'M LOOSING MY MONEY. I had great results with DHEA. From what I red and what I heard, there's some possible results from DHEA. There's something else than winny, test, anavar, etc, that gives results. I'm not a beginner in that world, I've been training for almost 8 years and I think that I know my stuff. I know that I can't have the same results with DHEA than primo or whatever you want. I think that it's not a good idea to be on AS for a too long period of time, so I was giving my body a brake. Actually, I'm preparing myself for a powerlifting comp so I'm stacking DHEA with primo.

There's some possible explanations of my bad mood:
-DHEA, is produced by the adrenal glands and appears to play a significant role in control of mood and sex drive.
-DHEA is secreted by the adrenal glands and is converted into testosterone and estrogen.
BTW, it is banned for athletes by the International Olympic Committee and the National Collegiate Athletic Association as an anabolic agent.

Side effects of DHEA use may include androgenic effects (acne- wich increased since I used DHEA, oily skin, excessive facial hair growth, voice deepening, hair loss, and mood changes)

I should have read this before asking you. Sorry!
Thanks alot!!!!!

LG
 
There have been a number of well controlled studies in addition to tons of anecdotal info on DHEA and possible anabolic effects. Even in doses as high as 1600 mg/d, there was nothing. Its all hype. Nothing more than a placebo effect.

You say you're combining primo with DHEA, but you think the DHEA is causing the mood problems? Sure it isn't the primo, or maybe the primo isn't primo but test.

Just because something is banned by the NCAA and IOC doesn't mean it enhances performance, esp. DHEA, andro and the likes.

Great results with DHEA but itself? Define great. I've been in this business for a long time and no one I've ever talked to has ever had any kind of results with DHEA by itself. Either you're really deficient in DHEA, the placebo effect is powerful and you're just training harder, you're getting a sizable increase in testosterone and you're deficient in test in addition to DHEA, or there is some interaction between the primo and DHEA.

W6
 
I used primo before and never had any sides. Anyway, I started dhea 3 weeks before primo so I'm sure that it's not primo that gaves me that bad mood. I wasn't believing in dhea either but I am sure that it helped me. Of course I'm training hard but I'm always training hard.
Concerning the fake primo, my source is very very very powerful and would never sell any crap or something else than what he says that he sells you...

LG
 
Although I agree 100% with Wilson6 regarding DHEA's lack of anabolic effect, I would suggest you stop it immediately becuase of the following reports:

DHEA and mania.
Dean CE.

Minneapolis Veteran's Affairs Medical Center, University of Minnesota Department of Psychiatry, 55417, USA. [email protected]

OBJECTIVE: To inform clinicians and investigators of the potential for severe mania in conjunction with the use of prasterone (DHEA; dehydroepiandrosterone). CASE SUMMARY: A 31-year-old Hispanic man was admitted on a 72-hour observation period from a neighboring hospital after threatening to kill himself, family members, and a friend. A loaded rifle was found under his bed. The family confirmed that he had begun using DHEA several weeks prior to his mood and behavioral changes. He denied any past violence, but had once been given an unsubstantiated diagnosis of bipolar disorder....... DISCUSSION: Although the Food and Drug Administration noted in 1985 that the efficacy and safety of DHEA were never confirmed, the agent continues to be sold over the counter. Several groups have used DHEA in the treatment of AIDS, memory loss, and depression, but reported no serious adverse events; however, recent studies indicate that severe psychiatric symptoms can develop in a subset of users, including mania, impaired cognition, and overt psychosis. Although uncertain, potential risk factors include high doses of DHEA; history of mood disorder; concurrent use of alcohol, street drugs, or antidepressants; and cytochrome P450 polymorphisms. CONCLUSIONS: The use of DHEA in those under age 35 years may be especially risky, as endogenous DHEA concentrations peak at age 20-30 years. Those using or investigating DHEA should be cognizant of the potential for severe psychiatric complications.
 
SHIT! I'm not that crazy though... That is pretty scrary but I'm sure it's not my case. I checked, I've no wepon under my bed!
BTW, I forgot to tell that I was also having my pms...

LG
 
DHEA effects can depend a lot on your age. Levels in your body drop as you age, and are at your highest in your early 20's from what I understand.

It is useful for women in menopause.

As far as doing anything for younger people (men/women) I have read many studies that it's pretty much useless, especially since you already have so much flowing through you already.
 
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